Jacks or Better!!!

[Louis Rossignol]

Oooops, is this one fresh enough for yall.

[fishsticker]

Good Jack Loui. Is that the 40 pounder on the Derby Board?

[fishkilla]

do you guys eat crevelle jack? if so how do you prepare them?

[Louis Rossignol]

Originally posted by fishsticker
Good Jack Loui. Is that the 40 pounder on the Derby Board?

I forgot to weigh this one,,,,,;)

[Rig Magician]

Jack Rescipe,
Get large old pot.
Boil for 15-20 mins.
Remove oil from the top.
Throgh away large pot and Jack.
Keep oil for leather worK boots.
:D :D

[lionfish]

cut jack in fist sized pieces, place in crap trap, set crab trap. check trap next day. cook and eat crabs, repeat


that stuff is the best crab bait ever but don't let the crabs eat too much or they will taste like jack


fwiw

hey rig magician, those would be some stanky boots!



Leo

[ROCK BOTTOM]

That jack has about the same chance of being eaten as that stank ass drum in the background.

Rok, Nice fish! And next time I play you in pool, I will leave the Vicodin and Ketel One alone. If I could have focused last night you wouldn't have beat me that last game. Please don't make me drink all of your vodka along with my beers, I feel like shit this morning.

Zz

[biggsy]

Just curious but if you guys are eating them, what are you using them for? Cut bait? Chum? Just curous...

[apexpredator]

Many people speak of the edibility of fish we shoot. I find that many people become fish snobs at some point. Only the best will do and the list of fish that people will consume becomes narrower as their fishing prowess increases. Truth is that when any fish is prepared well it has the potential of becoming a good meal. When I was a very young angler I remember catching a 30+lb jack crevalle. I had intentions of releasing him but as I walked my subdued catch torwards land from the middle of the bridge we were fishing on a barracuda helped himself to the back third of the fish. I hurriedly walked him the rest of the way and took what was left home since throwing it out seemed like a monumental waste of fresh protein. I presented my dark fleshed trophy to my mother and asked her to call on all her powers of culinary preparation to serve the fish for our family. My mom had never seen a jack crevalle but as she separated the large fillets from the bone she noticed two things first the fish had a large trianglar groove of very dark red flesh along it's lateral line and second the fish was fatty and probably stong tasting. Without going into a long discussion an the exact method of prepapration let me say that I did not regret bringing home said fish. Everyone who sat at the table found it pleasingly paletable and not overwhelmingly fishy or otherwise objectionable. I have since taken several home and although they are not my favorite fish to eat I would have a harder time stomaching shooting a pile of them just to take a picture and reduce them to chum or crab bait. I am not vilifying the practice of shooting them and using them for such a purpose but shooting them "just to watch 'em die".....not for me thanks.
I bet you would be surprised to find out just how good just about any fish can taste if you bleed 'em, ice 'em and apply a recipe that is appropiate for the species in question. Just my 2c....Happy Hunting!!

[bottomnout]

When we got back to the house we went to the water front and found some people who thought they were gold. We gave them the Jack and 2 drum ,they were nothing but smiles. One guy said "Yo man I can only take one of dem fish, Ya'll got to hook me up with that Jack". I almost pissed my pants.

[Louis Rossignol]

You people just don't get it what we here in Louisiana are doing. Ever hear of competition? We compete for many different kinds of fish, edible or inedible.

This way the inedible ones don't have a chance to eat all our snappers.


2004 L.C.U.D.C. DERBY BOARD
1st place (3 points) 2nd place (2 points) 3rd place (1 point)
AMBERJACK Scuba Jason Guitreau 94-6 (GE) George Ansardi 87-13 (HD) Jay Quiros 84-6 (ST)
Skin David Dauzat 33-3 (HD)
Women Claire Donaldson 28-2 (GE) Abbie Donaldson 27-13 (GE)
BARRACUDA Scuba George Ansardi 47-6 (HD) Dave Chaix 46-3 (HD) Jay Quiros 46-1 (ST)
Skin Chet McCollough 39-14 (HD) Tracy Palmisano 29-0 (ST) Tracy Palmisano 29-0 (ST)
Women Claire Donaldson 35-8 (GE) Abbie Donaldson 29-0 (GE)
BUFFALO/CARP Scuba Jason Guitreau 13-10 (GE) Everett Bergeron 12-8 (BB) Kyle Christen 8-0 (BB)
Skin Everett Bergeron 12-8 (BB) Kyle Christen 8-0 (BB) Everett Bergeron 8-0 (BB)
Women
CATFISH Scuba Kyle Christen 38-0 (BB) Jay Quiros 20-6 (ST) Jason Guitreau 18-3 (GE)
Skin Kyle Christen 38-0 (BB) Jay Quiros 20-6 (ST)
Women
COBIA Scuba Jason Guitreau 84-3 (GE) Marcel Garsaud 76-6 (ST) Bill Crawford 72-0 (ST)
Skin Marcel Garsaud 76-6 (ST) Bill Crawford 72-0 (ST) Marcel Garsaud 41-12 (ST)
Women Claire Donaldson 24-13 (GE)
DRUM Scuba Stan Smith 49-5 (HD) Louis Rossignol 45-2 (HD) Kirk Rhinehart 44-11 (GE)
Skin Louis Rossignol 9-10 (HD) David Chaix 9-6 (HD) George Ansardi 7-8 (HD)
Women
FLOUNDER Scuba
Skin
Women
GAR Scuba Dave Chaix 89-0 (HD) Louis Rossignol 68-5 (HD) Louis Rossignol 63-4 (HD)
Skin Dave Chaix 89-0 (HD) Louis Rossignol 68-5 (HD) Louis Rossignol 63-4 (HD)
Women
GROUPER (Warsaw) Scuba Darren Bourgeois 93-11 (ST) Mike Smith 69-13 (HD) Stan Smith 59-5 (HD)
Skin
Women Claire Donaldson 48-10 (GE)
GROUPER (Non-
Warsaw) Scuba George Donaldson 66-10 (GE) Jason Guitreau 64-13 (GE) David Dauzat 60-2 (HD)
Skin Bill Crawford 5-14 (ST)
Women Claire Donaldson 12-2 (GE)
JACK CREVALLE Scuba Louis Rossignol 40-0 (HD) Louis Rossignol 37-8 (HD) Jason Guitreau 35-13 (GE)
Skin Marcel Garsaud 32-6 (ST) Bill Crawford 28-10 (ST) Marcel Garsaud 28-5 (ST)
Women Claire Donaldson 25-3 (GE) Claire Donaldson 25-0 (GE)
MANGROVE
SNAPPER Scuba Mike Crossen 13-10 (HD) Jay Quiros 12-11 (ST) Bill Crawford 12-8 (ST)
Skin Bill Crawford 12-8 (ST) Bill Crawford 12-8 (ST) Marcel Garsaud 12-7 (ST)
Updated on 8/9/2004
2004 L.C.U.D.C. DERBY BOARD
Women Claire Donaldson 7-3 (GE) Claire Donaldson 4-11 (GE) Abbie Donaldson 4-10 (GE)
MISCELLANEOUS Scuba David Dauzat 51-13 (HD) Steve Hartley 38-14 (ST) Terry Migaud 36-11 (HD)
Species Almaco Jack Almaco Jack Almaco Jack
Skin David Dauzat 15-0 (HD) Bill Crawford 13-2 (ST) Tracy Palmisano 11-0 (ST)
Species Almaco Jack Dog Snapper
Women Claire Donaldson 17-3 (GE) Abbie Donaldson 8-2 (GE) Claire Donaldson 2-3 (GE)
Species Almaco Jack Almaco Jack Rainbow Runner
RAY Scuba Jason Guitreau 153-8 (GE) Kirk Rhinehart 146-3 (GE) Jason Guitreau 140-8 (GE)
Skin
Women
RED SNAPPER Scuba Bo Foreman 31-10 (GE) Tim Dykes 27-0 (GE) Carl Loe 24-13 (HD)
Skin Bill Crawford 17-1 (ST) Bill Crawford 15-5 (ST) Bill Crawford 13-11 (ST)
Women
SHARK Scuba
Skin
Women
SHEEPSHEAD Scuba Rafe Antill 10-14 (LS) Rafe Antill 9-6 (LS) David Chaix 9-2 (HD)
Skin David Chaix 9-2 (HD) Dave Chaix 8-14 (HD) Dave Chaix 8-11 (HD)
Women
SPADEFISH Scuba Louis Rossignol 7-2 (HD) Louis Rossignol 7-1 (HD) Louis Rossignol 6-14 (HD)
Skin Steve Hartley 8-7 (ST) Steve Hartley 6-2 (ST) Mike Smith 5-11 (HD)
Women Abbie Donaldson 3-8 (GE) Abbie Donaldson 3-3 (GE)
TRIGGER Scuba Eddie Aydell 13-7 (GE) Andy Dressel 10-13 (GE) Eddie Aydell 9-6 (GE)
Skin Bill Crawford 5-3 (ST) Mike Smith 3-13 (HD) David Dauzat 3-0 (HD)
Women Claire Donaldson 7-2 (GE) Abbie Donaldson 4-13 (GE) Abbie Donaldson 4-8 (GE)
TARPON Scuba Steve Hartley 150-0 (ST) Steve Hartley 123-0 (ST) Jay Quiros 120-6 (ST)
Skin Richie McCloskey 25-13 (HD).
Women
BLUEWATER DIVISION 1ST PLACE 2ND PLACE 3RD PLACE
TUNA
DORADO Bill Crawford 28-6 (ST) Marcel Garsaud 20-3 (ST).
WAHOO
MISCELLANEOUS Marcel Garsaud 51-12 (ST) Bill Crawford 46-0 (ST) Bill Crawford 43-11 (ST)
Species King Mackeral Amberjack Cobia
COUNCIL STANDINGS 1ST PLACE 2ND PLACE 3RD PLACE
KING
SKIN
QUEEN
CLUB
Updated on 8/9/2004

[apexpredator]

another ones treasure. I have been charged with being a "tinosa" (vulture for those bi-lingually challenged). I remember tagging along on a deer drive in Illinois afer having put in a week of bowhunting on the same land. Every drive we did ended with several deer on the ground. After driving the deer it was customary to go over for a look at what the drive produced and we stood around as the locals gutted and piled the deer into their trucks. One look at the gut piles and I noticed nobody was taking the hearts. For me nothing beats pan fried deer heart so I asked if I could help myself to the 'leftovers". The response I got was "we don't eat the guts...have at 'em'. So I left Illinois that November with my first pope and youg whitetail and a bag of hearts that kept me in my favorite breakfast delicacy for the rest of the year. Remembering the faces my request got from my hosts keeps a smile on my face to this day. Happy hunting!!

[biggsy]

Question Louis...Is this a running standing sheet for the year?

I noticed that each category is broken down by Scuba, Skin and Women. I noticed that under the "Gar" category you currently have 2nd and 3rd place under both Skin and Scuba...how is that possible? Just trying to understand how your derby board works. (Gar is shallow water and you only get it snorkeling?)

Looks like the women's competition is between the Donaldson sisters...they are all over it :D

Thanks.

[Louis Rossignol]

Question Louis...Is this a running standing sheet for the year?

Yes, Bigsey, this is a year long competition. A fish shot without a tank can count in the skin and scuba division as well as long as it's big enough.

The Donaldson's wife and daughter team do own the womens division,, there's just not alot of women doing it.

Competition starts Jan. 1st and ends Dec. 31.

The Hell Divers also have their own club board, which is very similar.

1st Place 2nd Place 3rd Place

Amberjack Scuba George Ansardi 87#13oz Stan Smith 71# Jon Nobile 66#2oz
Skin David Dauzat 33#3oz

Barracuda Scuba George Ansardi 47# 6oz David Chaix 46# 3oz Stan Smith 43#
Skin Chet McCollough 39#14oz Sammy Romano 35# 6oz George Ansardi 26#10oz

Buffalo / Carp Scuba
Skin

Catfish Scuba
Skin

Cobia Scuba Jonathan Nobile 63#8oz George Ansardi 55#6oz David Dauzat 49#6oz
Skin David Dauzat 29# 13oz David Dauzat 29# 11oz

Drum Scuba Stan Smith 49#5oz Louis Rossignol 45#2oz Stan Smith 39#2oz
Skin Louis Rossignol 9#10oz David Chaix 9# 6oz George Ansardi 7# 8oz

Flounder Scuba
Skin

Gar Scuba David Chaix 89# Louis Rossignol 68#5oz Louis Rossignol 63#6oz
Skin David Chaix 89# louis Rossignol 63#6oz Louis Rossignol55#

Grouper Scuba Mike Smith 69#13oz David Dauzat 60#2oz Stan Smith 59#5oz
Skin

Jack Crevalle Scuba Louis Rossignol 40# Louis Rossignol 37#8oz George Ansardi 34#12oz
Skin Wil Demuth 27#3oz Chet McCollough 15#6oz

Mangrove Snapper Scuba Mike Crossen 13#10oz Louis Rossignol 12# 8oz David Dauzat 11# 6oz
Skin David Dauzat 11# 6oz Henry Pacheo 10#2oz Henry Pacheo 8#8oz

Miscellaneous Scuba David Dauzat 51#13oz Terry Migaud 36#11oz Terry Migaud 23#14oz
Species Amaco Jack Amaco Jack Amaco Jack

Skin David Dauzat 15# Mike Smith 7#2oz
Species Amaco Jack Bermuda Chub

Ray Scuba Jonathan Nobile 138#6oz
Skin

Red Snapper Scuba Carl Loe 24#13oz George Ansardi 23# Henry Pacheo 22#
Skin

Shark Scuba
Skin

Sheepshead Scuba Ralph Luther 9#11oz David Chaix 9# 2oz Wil Demuth 9#
Skin Ralph Luther 9#11oz David Chaix 9# 2oz Wil Demuth 9#

Spadefish Scuba Louis Rossignol 7#2oz Louis Rossignol 7#1oz Louis Rossignol 6#14oz
Skin George Ansardi 6#13oz Mike Smith 5#11oz Mike Smith 5#8oz

Trigger Scuba Scott Brady 7# 8oz Gary Pecquet 7#5oz Terry Migaud 7#3oz
Skin Chet McCollough 4# Mike Smith 3#13oz David Dauzat 3#

Tarpon Scuba Louis Rossignol 60# Louis Rossignol 59#11oz Louis Rossignol 56#
Skin Richie McCloskey 25#13oz

Scuba Standings
Skin Diving Standings

[biggsy]

Sweet...thanks! Looks like you dont have much competition in some categories. GL throughout the year. Kinda cool that you can use the same fish on different boards too!

I was going to suggest this before, but I think it would be a cool idea to have a board similar like that on SB. That or even having a record board too with some way to verify the weights with pictures and witnesses...etc.

[ROCK BOTTOM]

Hey Rok,

Don't forget my old lady. She's gonna rule the women's division in '05. She shot several fish this year that are bigger that some of Claire's.

Zz

[Marcus]

I agree with you Apex.

I've eaten jack cravelle that was prepared correctly and had no decernible fishiness to it. This means gutting, bleeding, icing, removing blood line and eating fresh. I've also eaten Black drum that tasted just like it's cousin, the red drum (redfish). I know the larger Black drum get worms in them, much like larger AJs.

[Louis Rossignol]

Originally posted by biggsy
Sweet...thanks! Looks like you dont have much competition in some categories. GL throughout the year. Kinda cool that you can use the same fish on different boards too!

I was going to suggest this before, but I think it would be a cool idea to have a board similar like that on SB. That or even having a record board too with some way to verify the weights with pictures and witnesses...etc.

I like the way you're thinking Biggsy,<-- (spelled correctly)

To submit fish for the council board,, LCUDC, which is all the clubs in Louisiana, you need a catch witness, a weight witness and your fish has to be weighed on a state certified scale, current fishing lisence too. For state records and top 10's which we also keep track of you need the 2 witnesses and a picture of the fish.

We don't win money so there is no reason to cheat,, just RESPECT!!!! It's alot of FUN!!!

Anyways,l wish me luck I'm going in the lake right now to try to kill something.