Ron Paul gets Booed

[surf_dude]

gotta give the guy credit for not avoiding controversial topics in order to garner political points.

Ron Paul on foreign policy CNN Tea Party Debate 9/12/2011 - YouTube

[Bill McIntyre]

You sure do, and I basically agree with him. But the Tea Baggers are a fickle bunch, and bite the hand that feeds them.

[Marcus]

Explanation

http://i.imgur.com/TfgW8.jpg

[Marcus]

I put this video in another thread but it I guess it really belongs here

David Cross on the Terrorists - YouTube

[Marcus]

Col. Wilkerson (Powell's ex-Chief of Staff): libertarians are right about bankrupting militarism - YouTube

[Marcus]

Noam Chomsky on Ron Paul's 9/11 Theories: "What He Said Is Completely Uncontroversial" - YouTube

[HARVESTER]

Noam Chomsky on Ron Paul's 9/11 Theories: "What He Said Is Completely Uncontroversial" - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01e8-zSLkg0&feature=player_embedded)



You're a Warrior Marcus. I appreciate what you're doing.

We have Bill, Chuwee and Captain Cossack to remind us of "Me First, but I'll say I'm worried about everyone’s welfare" and "I care about all the little people, but I'll vote partisan, cause that's where I get my Chit from" bullshit on this forum - some disheartening and hopeless shit, yet you care enough to stay engaged. Good form Man.

[J707]

gotta give the guy credit for not avoiding controversial topics in order to garner political points.

Ron Paul on foreign policy CNN Tea Party Debate 9/12/2011 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8S3yws_88I)

That's part of the reason he'll never be president.

American voters (and typically Republicans) like to hear that we're the envy of the world and 911 happened because them AY-Rabs were just jealous of how incredibly free we are.

[STITCH]

Listen to this and see if you still think we should be contemplating whether or not we should invade Iran.

George Galloway talking about war with Iran - YouTube

[Marcus]

some disheartening and hopeless shit, yet you care enough to stay engaged.

Thanks Harvester.:beer:

Listen to this and see if you still think we should be contemplating whether or not we should invade Iran.

George Galloway talking about war with Iran - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtw5Zy2M6rk)

What's really sad is that there's people like that everywhere. They just blindly believe the war mongering bs....ready to send their own country men in harms way, while putting us all further in debt, and for what? Iran isn't threatening anyone. They're a proud nation that have got their act together, not some BF backwards ass country. We go over there and bomb a bunch of shit and create a nuclear disaster, killing thousands and thousands of innocent people, WTH do you think they're going to do. WTH would you do??
We've already screwed their country up one time. Trust me, these people aren't going to be happy to be 'liberated' by 'kinetic action'.
Remember this video?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXS3vW47mOE
"We're going to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan & Iran.." Video Interview with General Wesley Clark

Guess what all these countries have in common? None of them have/had central banks controlled by the globalists. They had their own. Libya was trying to organize a Mid-East/Northern Africa standard currency backed by gold dinar. (http://www.misaelgonzalez.net/2011/05/gaddafi-gold-standard)

...and this is what we want to spill our blood and money for? Keeping the corrupt central bankers in power? The same corrupt POS that just got done stealing everyone's savings and putting people further in poverty due to a massive increase in the money supply. 16 Trillion they 'lent' their banker buddies at zero interest...here in the US and Europe. This is the reason the value of the dollar is dropping and PMs are headed up. The inflation has just started. It takes a while for the effects to ripple down. In the mean time, the people that got the free money get to spend it while it still has a lot of value. Suckas!

[Bill McIntyre]

What's really sad is that there's people like that everywhere. They just blindly believe the war mongering bs....ready to send their own country men in harms way, while putting us all further in debt, and for what?

There is no accounting for individual Tea Party idiots on call-in shows, but the last government official or advisor that I can recall advocating an invasion of Iran was Karl Rove and he admitted that it was for political reasons. But I may have missed one, so fill me in if anyone in authority is actually proposing that.

I was against putting Americans in harms way in Iraq, even when it almost got me banned because I couldn't love America, and I'm against putting them in harm's way in Iran.

I'll not bother to respond to all the central bank crap. You are a lot like ocean, only his bugaboo is teacher's unions.

[Marcus]

There is no accounting for individual Tea Party idiots on call-in shows, but the last government official or advisor that I can recall advocating an invasion of Iran was Karl Rove and he admitted that it was for political reasons. But I may have missed one, so fill me in if anyone in authority is actually proposing that.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg

Obama threatens Iran (http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/aug2010/pers-a06.shtml)

Barack Obama signs new sanctions against Iran into law (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10484468)

I'll not bother to respond to all the central bank crap.

Of course not...and Andrew Jackson was a fool too.:rolleyes:

"Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves."

"I am one of those who do not believe that a national debt is a national blessing, but rather a curse to a republic; inasmuch as it is calculated to raise around the administration a moneyed aristocracy dangerous to the liberties of the country."

"The bold effort the present (central) bank had made to control the government ... are but premonitions of the fate that await the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it."

"The brave man inattentive to his duty, is worth little more to his country than the coward who deserts her in the hour of danger."

[Bill McIntyre]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg[/quote

OK, John McCain. He isn't in the administration, and I doubt many people take that very seriously

[quote]Obama threatens Iran (http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/aug2010/pers-a06.shtml)

So now you quote Socialist web sites? I guess that certainly represents a shift, or maybe it must means you'll go to any source to prove a point.

Barack Obama signs new sanctions against Iran into law (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10484468)

Sanctions are not war. They are an attempt to head off war.



Of course not...and Andrew Jackson was a fool too.:rolleyes:
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Whether or not he was a fool, I hope you aren't enough of a fool to confuse the bank he was talking about with any modern central bank, including our own Fed.

Sometimes I don't know whether you actually believe your own stuff, or are just hoping no one will call you on it.

[Marcus]

[quote=Marcus;1523427]www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg[/quote

OK, John McCain. He isn't in the administration, and I doubt many people take that very seriously

Really? Seems like to me the MSM gives him all kinds of press when he's war mongering.



So now you quote Socialist web sites? I guess that certainly represents a shift, or maybe it must means you'll go to any source to prove a point.

WTH matters what site it came off of?? I can find the same news piece on many sites. He said it. It's true. :slap:



Sanctions are not war. They are an attempt to head off war.

Yea, well...why didn't it work on Iraq?? A lot of people disagree with you...here's a few.
Obama’s New Iran Sanctions: An Act of War (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?aid=20008&context=va)

ECONOMIC SANCTIONS, JUST WAR DOCTRINE, AND THE "FEARFUL SPECTACLE OF THE CIVILIAN DEAD" (http://www.crosscurrents.org/gordon.htm)

"We hear war advocates on the floor today arguing that we cannot afford to sit around and wait for Iran to detonate a nuclear weapon. Where have we heard this before? Anyone remember then-Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice’s oft-repeated quip about Iraq, that we cannot wait for the smoking gun to appear as a mushroom cloud?

We need to see all this for what it is: Propaganda to speed us to war against Iran for the benefit of special interests.

Let us remember a few important things. Iran, a signatory of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, has never been found in violation of that treaty. Iran is not capable of enriching uranium to the necessary level to manufacture nuclear weapons. According to the entire US Intelligence Community, Iran is not currently working on a nuclear weapons program. These are facts, and to point them out does not make one a supporter or fan of the Iranian regime. Those pushing war on Iran will ignore or distort these facts to serve their agenda, though, so it is important and necessary to point them out.

Some of my well-intentioned colleagues may be tempted to vote for sanctions on Iran because they view this as a way to avoid war on Iran. I will ask them whether the sanctions on Iraq satisfied those pushing for war at that time. Or whether the application of ever-stronger sanctions in fact helped war advocates make their case for war on Iraq: as each round of new sanctions failed to "work" – to change the regime – war became the only remaining regime-change option.

This legislation, whether the House or Senate version, will lead us to war on Iran. The sanctions in this bill, and the blockade of Iran necessary to fully enforce them, are in themselves acts of war according to international law. A vote for sanctions on Iran is a vote for war against Iran. I urge my colleagues in the strongest terms to turn back from this unnecessary and counterproductive march to war."
~Ron Paul before the US House of Representatives, April 22, 2010

...and Why Economic Sanctions Don’t Work (http://www.hoover.org/publications/hoover-digest/article/7311)




Whether or not he was a fool, I hope you aren't enough of a fool to confuse the bank he was talking about with any modern central bank, including our own Fed.

Sometimes I don't know whether you actually believe your own stuff, or are just hoping no one will call you on it.

Really? Well now. Why don't you just educate all us ignorant folk on the differences between then and now??