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Bill McIntyre
04-29-2012, 10:52 PM
LOS ANGELES – A yacht involved in a race off the coast of California and Mexico apparently collided at night with a much larger vessel, leaving three crew members dead and one missing, a sailing organization said early Sunday. It was the state's second ocean racing tragedy this month.

The 37-foot Aegean carrying a crew of four was reported missing Saturday during a 125-mile Newport Beach-to-Ensenada yacht race, the U.S. Coast Guard said. Late Sunday, the San Diego County Coroner's office released the names of two of three victims: William Reed Johnson Jr., 57, of Torrance, and Joseph Lester Stewart, 64, Bradenton, Fla.

The identity of the third sailor has not been revealed. All three bodies, all male, were found in "a debris field in the Pacific Ocean off the shore of northern Mexico," according to the coroner's website. The U.S. Coast Guard searched for a fourth body on Sunday, but called it off at 4:15 p.m. after 28 hours of scouring the waters.
The Newport Ocean Sailing Association, the race organizer, said the yacht in the accident was representing the Little Ships Fleet club in Long Beach. Theo Mavromatis, the owner and skipper of the Aegean, was on the boat along with three crew members, the association said in a press released issued late Sunday.

The accident occurred near Mexico's Coronado Islands about 1:30 a.m., the association said. Redondo Beach Patch quoted Ray Pollock of Marina Sailing, which rents out the boat for Mavromatis as saying the Aegean had its regular crew for the race.

Gary Gilpin at Marina Sailing, which rents out the Aegean when Mavromatis isn't using it, said the 49-year-old skipper took the yacht out earlier in the week for the competition.
Gilpin said Mavromatis, an engineer, was an experienced sailor who had won the Newport to Ensenada race in the past. A woman answering a call at a number listed for Mavromatis declined to answer questions.
"It appeared the damage was not inflicted by an explosion but by a collision with a ship much larger than the 37-foot vessel," association spokesman Rich Roberts said in that news release.
Roberts later told the Register by phone that there seem to be few other explanations for the cause of the accident.
He said details were still scarce but it was possible that if the smaller boat was bobbing around in light wind, the crew might not have been able to get out of the way of a larger ship, perhaps a freighter.

The race goes through shipping lanes and it's possible for a large ship to hit a sailboat and not even know it, especially at night, he said.

Roberts said a race tracking system indicated that the boat disappeared about 1:30 a.m. PDT Saturday.
A Coast Guard search turned up the boat's wreckage, including the rear transom with the boat's name on it, the association release said.
Coast Guard boats and two aircraft as well as Mexican navy and civilian vessels were involved.

Coast Guard Petty Officer Henry Dunphy said around 3 a.m. Sunday that searchers were focusing on an area about 10 miles off the Mexican coast and about 10 miles south of U.S. waters.

Eric Lamb was the first to find debris of the boat — most no larger than six inches — scattered over about two square miles Saturday as he worked safety patrol on the race. He saw a small refrigerator, a white seat cushion and empty containers of yogurt and soy milk.
"We pulled a lot of boats off the rocks over the years and boats that hit the rocks, they don't look like that. This was almost like it had gone through a blender," said Lamb, 62.

A Coast Guard helicopter circling overhead directed him and a partner to two floating bodies. Both had severe cuts and bruises, and one of them had major head trauma.

Two race participants who were in the area at the time the Aegean disappeared said they saw or heard a freighter.
Cindy Arosteguy of Oxnard, Calif., remembers hearing on her radio someone say, "Do you see us?" as she saw a tanker about a half-mile away.

"I got back on the radio and said, `Yes, I see you,"' she said. "It was definitely a freighter."

The Newport Beach Patch website posted a photo that shows the crew at the start of the race Friday. Four men in royal blue T-shits are on the deck as the boat cuts through calm waters. One man is waving and another appears to be smiling.

Other yachts near the Coronado Islands in Mexico reported seeing debris Saturday morning. Searchers in the afternoon found the bodies and debris from the Aegean, whose home port is Redondo Beach, Dunphy said

Two of the dead were recovered by a civilian boat, while the third was found by a Coast Guard helicopter. The Coast Guard said earlier that it hadn't determined what happened to the sailboat.

Dunphy said conditions were fine for sailing, with good visibility and moderate ocean swells of 6 to 8 feet.

The Newport Ocean Sailing Association's press release said that 213 yachts were registered for this year's race, which started off Balboa Pier in Newport Beach on Friday and many boats finished in Ensenada on Saturday, with the last ones due in Sunday.

The association's commodore, reached by phone in Ensenada, told the AP that he didn't know the members of the Aegean or how many people were aboard.
"This has never happened in the entire 65 years of the race that I'm aware of," Chuck Iverson said. "We're all shocked by this whole event."

The Coronado Islands are four small, largely uninhabited islands.
The deaths come two weeks after five sailors died in the waters off Northern California when their 38-foot yacht was hit by powerful waves, smashed into rocks and capsized during a race.
Three sailors survived the wreck and the body of another was quickly recovered. Four remained missing until one body was recovered last Thursday.

The deadly accident near the Farallon Islands, about 27 miles west of San Francisco, prompted the Coast Guard to temporarily stop races in ocean waters outside San Francisco Bay.

The Coast Guard said the suspension will allow it and the offshore racing community to study the accident and race procedures to determine whether changes are needed to improve safety. U.S. Sailing, the governing body of yacht racing, is leading the safety review, which is expected to be completed within the next month.

North Star
04-30-2012, 12:58 AM
That is incredibly sad. One of a sailors worst nightmares is a collision with a freighter. Given the small pieces the boat was in, I almost wonder if it was not a collision at all, but a propane gas explosion on board. Propane is heavy, settles in the bilge, and a leak in a line and a spark can turn a boat into a bomb that explodes with incredible force. God be with their families.

arice
04-30-2012, 11:24 AM
I was thinking the same thing, Max. Good clear visibility, 4 crew members, active racing. It doesn't add up to someone not noticing a tanker bearing down.

Of course, being the San Diego and US-Mexico border, it could have been all sorts of crazy shit. Nuclear sub. The world's largest super-panga running dark and fast...

Bill McIntyre
05-03-2012, 11:25 AM
The SPOT tracking indicates that it just ran into the Coronados.

http://m.yahoo.com/w/legobpengine/news/gps-suggests-calif-yacht-hit-rocks-off-mexico-135300416--spt.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=US&.lang=en-US

North Star
05-03-2012, 03:42 PM
Wow. Talk about a navigation error - how can you run a boat into a charted island with that experienced of a crew? And how did the boat break up into as small of pieces as it did, if that were the case? The main wreck would be at the base of the cliff on the bottom if that is what happened - I wonder if they are going to send divers down to look for it?

Bill McIntyre
05-03-2012, 03:52 PM
It seems incredible, but did you look at the link to the SPOT track?

http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0PPpktkSXb0QR2ojCNeoelyfYAx2eVZ zF

arice
05-03-2012, 06:46 PM
I think investigators need to call Scooby and Shaggy on this one. My theory now involves an invisible submarine and radioactive sharks that live in a secret base inside the island.

North Star
05-04-2012, 01:11 AM
It seems incredible, but did you look at the link to the SPOT track?

http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0PPpktkSXb0QR2ojCNeoelyfYAx2eVZ zF

I did not see that link. It seems pretty clear they navigated right into the island. It is unexplainable that any sailor would do such a thing with all the modern aids to navigation that are available today - electronic GPS plotters/charts, etc.

I am shaking my head in disbelief.

I had read that those islands were used by smugglers/drug runners at times - could they have run into some bad guys and gotten blown out of the water?

But why were they so close to the island in the first place? Sailors hate land, and give it as wide a berth as they can for safety's sake. I know they were racing, but good grief - passing that close in the dark is crazy, if they intended to pass close. I know chart plotters are not always perfectly accurate - they can be a mile or two off in unusual circumstances - but I am stunned they would come even that close to land in the dark.

I do not know if they had radar on board or if it was on - but it would have shown the land and how close it was. Maybe the guy on watch just plain old went to sleep for a couple of hours.

As I said - I am shaking my head in disbelief.

Smudge
05-04-2012, 09:10 AM
I had read that those islands were used by smugglers/drug runners at times - could they have run into some bad guys and gotten blown out of the water?



Come on, "blown out of the water"? Seriously? With what? The missile launchers that smugglers carry on their pangas? :rolleyes: Even a hand held RPG wouldn't "blow them out of the water". And I doubt a cartel lacky could hit a moving sailboat out of a panga that was getting tossed is the same seas at 1:30am. I mean seriously man, that's some far fetched shit...

As far as why they were so close, many other racers have chimed in from around the web. That particular race is an over nighter where many of the boats start out running offshore to take advantage of the prevailing winds and as the day wears on into the evening when the offshore winds lighten up, they come in close to take advantage of the on shore sea breeze.

Now, that being said, the Agean was in the cruising class in that race. The Cruising class is allowed to use their motor at night. I speculate that they were motoring, turned on the auto-pilot and whoever was on watch stepped into the galley to make a snack, get a cup of coffee or whatever and they ran aground. Either that, or night watch nav equipment operator error.

Did the boat have radar? Yes. And a full modern navigation suite. But those systems are only as good as the operator. I've been in the Navy for 18 years and have accumulated 11 years of sea time. I can not tell you how many times I've been looking at a track on my sonar, called the radar operator for a bearing check and have that operator say that the bearing was clear. My next response is "what's your range scale?" the reply is almost always "oops, I was in a 16 mile scale, hang on." "Oh, there's a group III merchant at 16.2 miles down that bearing, sorry." If it's not within the range scale you're looking at, you won't see it on the machine, even if it's an island.

People get tunnel vision. They zoom in their displays to get a close look at something, or to set the auto pilot, or worse they scroll their GPS display over to the finish of the race and forget to bring it back before they settle in to the watch and forget to set the land/collision alarm.

I think you're right though, the bulk of that wreck is at the bottom of the cliff and someone needs to go look at it. I stated on another website that my brother and uncle used to build Hunter sail boats back in the 80's. That 37' has a big, fat, but shallow keel made of lead. It's there somewhere... Those Hunter hulls are chop-gun lay up. Shattering into pieces against Pukey point in 6-8' seas is not unreasonable...

Otis Driftwood
05-04-2012, 10:44 AM
Wow 11 years of sea time. I can barely wrap my brain around that. Thanks for your service. My sail log is measured in hours and days.

Smudge
05-04-2012, 10:49 AM
Wow 11 years of sea time. I can barely wrap my brain around that. Thanks for your service. My sail log is measured in hours and days.

Just to be clear, that 11 year number is somewhat misleading. I've spent 11 years stationed on ships. I haven't actually spent 11 years at sea. All told, I probably have between 5 and 7 years of accumulated underway time... For instance, my last duty sation was 3 year tour on a ship in Hawaii and I spent an average of around 8 or 9 months a year at sea depending...

Even now that I am on shore duty though, I still spend roughly 100 days at sea working and fishing on sportboats here in San Diego. And I started moonlighting on sportboats right after I joined the Navy in 1994... Safe to say, a little bit of water has passed beneath me in my short life...

arice
05-04-2012, 12:38 PM
I think the Spot track is also a bit misleading. Accurate, yes, but misleading because it appears they were "navigating" straight at that island for more than 100 miles. But the only thing that really matters is what happened in the last mile or two. Certainly plenty of people have sailed boats into rocks and islands, even during the day. But I'd expect a racing crew in the home stretch of their race to be a little more on top of things. Who knows. Spot devices are almost always handhelds, too, so there's just as much possibility that the boat was sunk at sea and the device somehow drifted into the island with other debris.

Whatever happened, it seems someone made a tragic series of mistakes.

Smudge
05-04-2012, 01:37 PM
I think the Spot track is also a bit misleading. Accurate, yes, but misleading because it appears they were "navigating" straight at that island for more than 100 miles. But the only thing that really matters is what happened in the last mile or two. Certainly plenty of people have sailed boats into rocks and islands, even during the day. But I'd expect a racing crew in the home stretch of their race to be a little more on top of things. Who knows. Spot devices are almost always handhelds, too, so there's just as much possibility that the boat was sunk at sea and the device somehow drifted into the island with other debris.

Whatever happened, it seems someone made a tragic series of mistakes.

Drifted into the island at the same speed and on the same course it had been travelling for the few hours prior? Is that before or after the Mexican cartel blew them up with a SLCM?

Spot transponders are as accurate as any GPS device in the open with no skyward obstructions.

arice
05-04-2012, 01:47 PM
No need to be catty, Smudge. I never said anything about them being blown up by smugglers.

I zoomed in to the lowest level of the spot tracking. You're right, it's very precise on both course and speed. I was looking at it previously at a much larger scale. Hmmm. That rings a bell...

Smudge
05-04-2012, 01:57 PM
Sorry, that was a reference to an earlier post... Unfortunately, with tragic accidents like this, the simplest answer is usually the correct one.

Ideally, someone with a really good sidescan unit, like Scripps, should do a survey of the reef around the head of North Is. I bet they will find the hulk of the Agean...

North Star
05-04-2012, 03:20 PM
OK, "blown out of the water" was a bit of a hyperbole, but of the three bodies found, some had serious head trauma - they could have been boarded by bad guys, murdered, and the ship blown up with propane. Easy enough to do. Just sheer speculation, but I guess I was just trying to find an excuse for the mariners not screwing up so bad, and the ship being in such small pieces. But if that hull was built with a chopper gun, that would sure explain the small fragments it was in.

Maybe these mariners really were just dumb or inattentive enough to crash into a charted island with radar running and a chart plotter GPS at their disposal. I would like to think not.