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Steel Shootin'
10-21-2002, 11:24 AM
I think the Buc defense should file for divorce from the offense. What a pathetic showing. We got 10 points and our defense scored 7 of it. Brooks now has 4 TDs!
I think it's time to bring in Rob Johnson. With the offensive line that we have, it's not a good situaiton for Brad. Brad is the most immobile QB in the league; he needs time for the patterns to develope. He is not getting the protection, so we need someone who can move around while the receivers finish their routes, and maybe take off for some yardage. I don't blame him, but I think a change is needed.
And am I the only one that wanted to bitch slap Chris Collingsworth? What a frickin whiner, with nothing good to say about anyone.
I'm not too discouraged. Another outstanding performance by the defense. Yeah, Duce Staley had like 150 yards and opened the game up at the end, but our D was worn down due to playing too much. I like our chances of going 12-4 this year.
dlock
10-21-2002, 11:34 AM
Brad would be fine if he had some blocking up front. They get thru too easily most of the time. Rob gets rattled too easily, but hopefully he can settle down. I bet Brad will be back on Sunday, at least for a while.
f94gator
10-21-2002, 11:54 AM
Until the Oline is worth a crap, get used to it. Gruden is doing a good job, but he could only do so much to improve the Oline in the offseason. The good thing is that all of the other tools on offense are present, so as soon as they get some decent blockers, they’ll be in great shape.
Steel Shootin'
10-21-2002, 12:03 PM
Well, the decision may be easy for Gruden, depending on how bad Brad's ribs are. I'm not blaming Brad, I'm just saying I'd like to see Rob for one game. It can't get any worse, so what's the harm?
greyface
10-21-2002, 05:29 PM
I'm still pissed the Jags got rid of Rob Johnson and kept milktoast, er.. I mean Brunell. Whatc'all think of Keeshawn "The Mouth"?:confused:
f94gator
10-21-2002, 05:36 PM
I like Keyshawn; he talks a lot, but it seems to be coming from the right place.
Sapp, on the other hand, can eat shit and die for all I care. He's a cancer in the locker room, and I've never heard 1 person in the area who's met him have anything good to say about him.
Steel Shootin'
10-21-2002, 06:14 PM
I'll say this about Keyshawn: He is the most fearless wide receiver I have ever watched play. He has absolutely no fear of taking a hit, and holds the ball well.
Sapp I have disliked for years, but I'll give him this, he is playing much better this year. Last year, he was a no-show. This year, he is creating havok in the middle. This may be the best Buc defense ever. I think it is, and I think at the end of the year the numbers will show that.
greyface, I watched a couple of Jag games during the preseason, and Brunnel looked worse than I have even seen him. He could't hit anyone. I haven't followed the Jags at all since, so not sure whether he got straight or not.
dlock
10-21-2002, 08:20 PM
you know guys the bottom line is they are doing great for a team with a NEW OFFENSIVE SCHEME. I think some of the fans are forgetting that fact. Hey we are 5 and 2 in Oct...not really bad at all. I'm a huge Keyshawn fan but he should have made that catch. At least admit that it was his fault and not look for excuses. As for Warren, he is abrasive but I think you should have guys like that on your defense. You want people to be afraid of them,they should be mean and have an attitude. Damn I love football:D :D :D :D
johnhermes
10-21-2002, 08:35 PM
What I don't like about Sapp:
1) Off camera, he is renowned for being a total asshole.
2) No exBuc has anything good to say about him. Bucs leave Tampa and just talk about what an asshole Sapp is. See Chidi Ahonatu
3) His talk is better than his play. He is a very good defensive lineman, but lets face it, he retires tomorrow, no way does he make the Hall of Fame. The man cannot hold Lee Roys jock strap.
4) He is just a mean spirited PERSON, not football player, but person. Five years out of the league, he will have pissed every dime that he has away.
Keyshawn is a big talker, but I really believe that he is generally a good guy. Warren is a big talker, and if he was not a star in the NFL, he would be in the running with Genesis for fewest friends.
f94gator
10-21-2002, 10:17 PM
The thing I like about Keyshawn is he truly does seem to be about WINNING. He likes glory, but he'd rather win, even if it means less catches for himself. Sapp wants his sacks, to hell with everyone else.
Couple stories about Sapp: DJ on 102.5 ran into him a few years ago at Universal Studios. DJ comes up to him, says "Hey Warren, I work at 102.5 in Tampa, how's it going?" blah blah blah, they're both from Tampa, he's trying to be nice. Sapp tells him to **** off. SO, that Monday on the radio, he explains the situation, says that he wants to give Sapp the benefit of the doubt - maybe he was just having a bad day or something. So he asks for anyone in Tampa who has had a GOOD experience with Sapp to call in so that the guy could get a fair shake.
You know the ending; no one called, except those who reiterated that he was an asshole.
Story #2: Bartender I ran into. Said Sapp never, EVER tips, (except during a field goal attempt - his line :)) Said that he was rude, as if it was an honor to serve him drinks, and when he walked into the bar, the bartenders scattered because they didn't want to deal with him.
greyface
10-21-2002, 11:12 PM
Roger that, on Sapp. He's playing like it's contract renewal time! lol Keeshawn runs his piehole too much, but he does back his shit up. If ya sing it, ya better bring it!:D
Steel Shootin'
10-22-2002, 06:48 AM
I agree with everything that has been said about Sapp being an asshole. I've heard nothing but bad things about him. I was just commenting on his play this year, which is greatly improved. I look at Sapp the same way I'd look at a surgeon: You can be the biggest asshole in the world, as long as you're the best at what you do.
His attitude will come back to haunt him after he retires, because no one will care about him (unless Fox or ESPN pick him up for commentary, which I hope won't happen).
dlock
10-22-2002, 10:18 PM
did you guys hear that Chris Carter signed with the Dolphins. That retirement didn't last long. He is fun to watch when he's makin' those one handed catches he's famous for. Maybe Dan should go back now too!:D
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