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Fish Steeler
07-28-2003, 11:33 AM
As promised in my very first post, something was getting speared at the Tarpon Rodeo. I bought my first speargun 3 weeks ago and this weekend it got its first kill, or wound, I should say.

We left the dock at 7:00am Friday morning to beautiful blue skies and flat seas. Four of my buddies and me would be fishing in my boat all weekend. Since I would be the only one spearfishing, I only put one tank and my pony bottle in my boat. (Mistake #1)

We headed about 30 miles southwest of Grand Isle and stop at a satellite rig in 160 feet of water. My buddies dropped their lines and I geared up and jumped in to take a look. The water was green and there was a good current ripping on top. Once I got past 20 feet the current was gone and the water was beautiful. I loaded my gun and dropped down to 125 feet. I saw Spades, Triggers, some small snapper but nothing worth shooting. Since I figured this would be my only dive I took my time and enjoyed the view. (Mistake #2)

Thirty minutes later I was back in the boat listening to how my crew lost a 60# Cobia at the gaff. Too bad I didn’t see him! We unhooked and headed south another 10 miles before we saw the next set of rigs in 200 feet. All of them were occupied so I picked the one with only one boat on it. It just so happened that boat was spearfishing. They said the rig was covered with Amberjack at 75 feet. So we dropped our lines and fished. After watching the second set of divers come up with their catch and not catching any in our boat, I decide the 1000 pounds of air left in my aluminum 80 will be enough to “go down and spear one.” (Big Mistake #3)

I jumped in and loaded my gun while hanging on to the rig hook rope with my legs, to save air. After kicking through the swift current on top I checked my air at 30 feet, still close to a 1000. Plenty, I thought! I swam straight down as fast as possible with one hand on my gun and the other on my nose. The vis was great and sure enough there they were at 70 feet. Knowing I didn’t have time to mess around, I lined my gun up and shot the third one in the pack. Well this is when the fun began! My spear went straight through Mr. Amberjacks belly and he didn’t seem too happy about it! He gave me a ride down to 95 feet before I could wrap the cable around a rig leg and stop him.

While watching him put on a show at the end of my cable, I see the spear about to pull out. I left the gun wrapped around the rig and with one hand on the cable I grabbed the fish by the gills. As I’m trying to pull his gills out, which didn’t work, the spear pulls out making a nice green cloud. Then it happened!

I’ve been diving for 15 years and I’ve never sucked the last few breaths out of a tank, but that’s what happened and its not a good feeling at 95 feet! I knew before I jumped in that that was a possibility so I wasn’t completely surprised. I let go of the gun and with the fish in one hand, grabbed the pony bottle reg with the other. Air is good!!! My gun was still wrapped around the rig so I collected that and proceeded to drag my catch to the top. Needless to say I was in a hurry to get to surface!

About 35 feet from the top the pony bottle was getting difficult to breath from. I didn’t panic; I quickly wrapped the gun around the rig and just stopped. I got control of my breathing, which had been very heavy since I speared the fish. I had to decide whether to leave to leave the speargun, the fish, or both. Well in that short period of decision it got easier to breath so I decided they were both coming with me! When I broke the surface my buddies said I had a worried look on my face. That was a relieved look.

When I handed the fish up it was still kicking! Obviously I know I made some mistakes…some of them big. But I think I’ve learned a few lessons. And man what a rush!!

Fish Steeler

junior
07-28-2003, 11:41 AM
Hey man give yourself some due credit for taking that pony bottle along;) and for the nice AJ. Take it easy:cool:

KJNDIVER
07-28-2003, 04:09 PM
I know that feeling!! Happened to me about 6 yrs ago, except I wasnt at 95 ft. I was only at 10 ft. But feeling that last breath of air leave your lungs and you then suck on that regulator to get nothing, its a spooky feeling. My buddy said I had that same worried look in my eyes that you described as I was fighting a stringer full of fish, a gun, 4 ft seas, no air to inflate BC, in the madness I managed to kick off one of my fins and thought I was a goner until I finally made it to the boat. Whew!!

But nice fish and story! Keep em comin!

f94gator
07-28-2003, 04:31 PM
Glad you made it up OK.
But dude, 70 ft with only 1000 lbs to start with? Are you on crack?

Fish Steeler
07-28-2003, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by f94gator
Glad you made it up OK.
But dude, 70 ft with only 1000 lbs to start with? Are you on crack?

Probably not the smartest decision I've ever made. Trust me it wont happen again. I think maybe the A.J. was on crack!

Fish Steeler

Spear One
07-28-2003, 05:45 PM
The # 1 toughest thing to learn about spearfishing? DISCIPLINE!

Fish Steeler
07-28-2003, 05:59 PM
Yep, I think my desire to shoot a fish with my new gun may have clouded my judgement. But hard learned lessons are not forgotten. Maybe some will read this and learn from my mistakes.

Fish Steeler

jim richard
07-28-2003, 08:30 PM
i have a little less expreince than you in spearfishing,,have been trying to go on charter trips but it is hard to line up a trip by myself (dwith one person if you are looking for another diver i would gladly share the expense. i am a advanced open water diver have been diving for six years thanks jim

Steel Shootin'
07-28-2003, 08:38 PM
I was going to dive with 1000 pounds in my tank to save from using my last tank since we only had one more drop. But then I thought, it's only $7 for a nitrox fill, don't be stupid. So I switched it out.

Then, I found out our last drop was in 25ft of water.

fishsticker
07-28-2003, 09:19 PM
We live and learn.......as long as we keep livin we ok. Good AJ and great story.

Spear One
07-28-2003, 09:40 PM
Scott.... that is a very good example of spearfishing DISCIPLINE!

webers
07-29-2003, 09:21 AM
Try not having access to air at 95-96 feet and not being able to use your pony. Not fun. Happend to me a few weeks ago. Same screw up. That "one more fish" thing. An emergency ascent from that depth can @#$%^&* with your head. Scary as hell.

Webers

Fish Steeler
07-29-2003, 09:52 AM
Webers,

I'm glad to hear I'm not the only "Crack Head"!
LOL

Fish Steeler

junior
07-29-2003, 11:23 AM
Nope, your not the only crack head around. I imagine a lot of guys have had that feeling. The worst thing I ever pulled was sucking the aluminum off the inside of my tank at 110':eek: That's a long, long, long way to the top. And it did f#$k with my head all day long.

Fish Steeler
07-29-2003, 01:43 PM
Thanks for the support KJNDIVER, fishsticker, webers
and junior. To the rest, I wasn't bragging about my foolishness. I just thought it made an interesting story!

Fish Steeler


jim richard,

next time I go, I'll give you a pm if i have a spot open.

f94gator
07-29-2003, 04:33 PM
I'm not trying to give you a hard time. We've all made mistakes. Luckily we usually make it through without serious injury. Well, except for Hector. :D

Spearchucker
07-29-2003, 04:39 PM
Damn Weber, why didn't you have your pony bottle?? I found it and gave it back to you!! (and got no beer for it)

webers
07-29-2003, 05:35 PM
John,

Pony was with me, and full. I made a bad decsion and had some unexpected events that and got me into a pinch with an empty tank. Unfortuantely, in the process the Pony Reg got pulled free from where I kept it on my bc and got caught behind me. Other factors precluded my having time to get the tank off or the gear fixed.

I ended up being fine. But a bit spooked. Seastalker helped out by hanging with me on a deco stop with me using Shooter Dan's 40% pony. Dangerous gave me a look over and Shooter Dan helped with the 100% o2 on the boat. Other guys on the boat were nice an got me beer after my heart rate dropped from 130+. Not bent.

That ****ing pony is bad luck. I need to get a proper neck harness to keep its reg in place.

Still owe you beers. When's the next Hooters?

I'd rather face sharks behind a chummed up shrimp boat with a Morey Eel clamped to my crotch than to have no air.

Webers

FredT
07-29-2003, 05:49 PM
I've hit the water with under 700 for a 130' bounce dive and came up with air, and a sow snapper. Of course I loaded the gun on the dive platform and saved the 300#s it takes to load the gun.

The difficulty came when you neglected to stone the AJ!

SHOT PLACEMENT COUNTS!

Shot through a soft spot they will generally pull off. A head shot fish that misses the majic button can be clipped to the rig without pulling off, while you go up shallow to wait for it to tire and tangle a bit. Once he slows down you can drop back down, throat him and head up with little difficulty. Just be sure the tip is detached when you tie him off or you get to replace the shaft. I've never seen an AJ or cuda pretzeled shaft straightened well enough to use in open water. For shooting into or under a wreck maybe, but not OW.


FT

Originally posted by Fish Steeler
Probably not the smartest decision I've ever made. Trust me it wont happen again. I think maybe the A.J. was on crack!

Fish Steeler

Fish Steeler
07-29-2003, 06:50 PM
f94gator

No offense taken, I guess I'll have to do a search for what happend to Hector.

FredT

Thanks for the advice, sounds like you've seen the "cracked out A.J." before!

webers

Glad you made it without DCS, sounds like that may be another "what not to do story"! Here is a pic of the way I mount my pony. It's very secure and easy to move to another bottle.

Fish Steeler

Spearchucker
07-29-2003, 07:01 PM
Get rid of those aluminum 80's and buy yourself some real tanks. HP120's are my choice.

f94gator
07-30-2003, 04:34 PM
Webers, I think YOU are bad luck!!!:eek: