Definition of Troll

[PatMyGreen]

A troll, according to Wikipedia at least, is In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum and intentionally tries to cause disruption, most often in the form of posting inflammatory, off-topic, or otherwise inappropriate messages. It may be important for some readers to distinguish between someone posting something they don't agree with, causing them to spew vitriolic garbage from their keyboard in response, and an actual troll post. Since this is an actual section dedicated to "off topic" (non spearing) discussion ...specifically Politics and Religion the two most inflammatory topics on the planet, lets try to keep alittle perspective shall we.

[jackpine savage]

:stupid:

[Steve Bennett]

:stupid:

lol jackpine, thanks for all the actual spearfishing reports ;)

Maybe you could get rid of the word "spear" in you user title and replace it with "post in the religous and off topic forum"

[junior]

lol jackpine, thanks for all the actual spearfishing reports ;)

Maybe you could get rid of the word "spear" in you user title and replace it with "post in the religous and off topic forum"

I think this is troll like posting. But I don't really care :D

[jackpine savage]

lol jackpine, thanks for all the actual spearfishing reports ;)

Maybe you could get rid of the word "spear" in you user title and replace it with "post in the religous and off topic forum"
No problem Steve I am glad you care so much to take a few minutes out of your day to share that with me, makes me feel special

[f94gator]

How about posting videos of hot chicks on treadmills? :D

[bgbill]

How about posting videos of hot chicks on treadmills? :D


Ask and ye' shall Receive. :D

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=507732229697832036

[Mark Weitz]

But a troll is more then that. Trolling well is an art, the main objective is to get OTHER people to argue, from your original post and to keep the argument going as long as possible with as little additional input from the original poster as possible. I've never done it ;)

Mark


A troll, according to Wikipedia at least, is In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum and intentionally tries to cause disruption, most often in the form of posting inflammatory, off-topic, or otherwise inappropriate messages. It may be important for some readers to distinguish between someone posting something they don't agree with, causing them to spew vitriolic garbage from their keyboard in response, and an actual troll post. Since this is an actual section dedicated to "off topic" (non spearing) discussion ...specifically Politics and Religion the two most inflammatory topics on the planet, lets try to keep alittle perspective shall we.

[aaron proffitt]

A troll, according to Wikipedia at least, is In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum and intentionally tries to cause disruption, most often in the form of posting inflammatory, off-topic, or otherwise inappropriate messages. It may be important for some readers to distinguish between someone posting something they don't agree with, causing them to spew vitriolic garbage from their keyboard in response, and an actual troll post. Since this is an actual section dedicated to "off topic" (non spearing) discussion ...specifically Politics and Religion the two most inflammatory topics on the planet, lets try to keep alittle perspective shall we.

Good point. Kinda hard not to troll in this section,in a matter of speaking.
Trolling,in mind, would be say(only as example guys,only as example) to go to the Ca. forum and say the only thing guys in Ca. are in to spearing is other dudes in the butt.
Interestingly enough,I once asked a legit question on why more guys in Ca. freedive as opposed to guys on the East coast.This resulted a huge deluge of debate and I gotta a ton of PMs' sugesting I was trolling.Hell, I was just curious.Interesting and educational place,this spearboard.

[Bill McIntyre]

Trolling,in mind, would be say(only as example guys,only as example) to go to the Ca. forum and say the only thing guys in Ca. are in to spearing is other dudes in the butt.

Even if that were true, at least we'd be spearing something.

I'm not ordinarily one to ask for a ratio of dives to posts, but sometimes I wonder why you are here other than to make sure California divers are kept in their place and ensure that the board is not taken over by dreaded "leftists." I have not noticed a single contribution from you on the subject of spearfishing, but you sure have a lot to say about leftists.

There are many other sports out there, and I'm sure you don't engage in all of them either. But sometimes I wonder if you are contributing to boards dedicated to mountain climbing, rock climbing, dog sledding, skate boarding, and God knows what others, just trying to ensure ideological purity.


Interestingly enough,I once asked a legit question on why more guys in Ca. freedive as opposed to guys on the East coast.This resulted a huge deluge of debate and I gotta a ton of PMs' sugesting I was trolling.Hell, I was just curious.Interesting and educational place,this spearboard.

Its even more interesting and informative if you read posts before condemning them after reading the name of the guy who posted.

[aaron proffitt]

Oh for gawd sakes,Bill. Let it go !!Sheesh

Course,by going by the posted definition of a 'troll';I'd like to refer to the lost diver at Catalina thread in the Ca. forum. Larry uses the word 'God' in his post(it's in God's hands) and you,in classic Bill fashion, turned it into a religious discussion.Diplomatic about it; but none the less, you went on the attack at the mere mention of God.Surprised as hell that you haven't been tearing Gradyman's devotional threads to pieces.
In any case; that,Bill, is being a 'troll'.

[aaron proffitt]

Bill McIntyre] "but sometimes I wonder why you are here other than to make sure California divers are kept in their place and ensure that the board is not taken over by dreaded "leftists."



Where in the hell is this coming from ? I refuse to believe that you are so dense as to miss the point of my illustration.The geographical location was a generality.I couldn't give a shit where a diver is from or whether or not he needs to be kept in check.That ain't my job.




"I have not noticed a single contribution from you on the subject of spearfishing, but you sure have a lot to say about leftists. "



Then you aren't looking hard enough. Course, don't know why you would need,or even, want to visit the freshwater forums.It's true enough.I have no experience in spearing,that is why I don't post in spearfishing forums except to congratulate someone's harvest,ask a question,or whatever.But,I am not about to interject in a topic I'm not educated and experienced enough in.Yet.Plans are already in place for this spring to hunt with other spearos in my area.




"There are many other sports out there "

And I am an ardent bow hunter....I've used my trusty longbow all over the country.I love the challenge of being a part of nature as opposed to a spectator.No stranger to the hunt,just never under the water.However,the religious and political debate policy here is one of the most liberal I've ever seen and the diversity amongst the contributors is excellent.Here,we pretty much run the gamut when it comes to cultural,economic, and educational demographics.I mean really...how many differing views do you think their are on a forum dedicated Labs, duck hunting, and dog training.The good 'ol boys basically run it.Great bunch of guys,the salt of the earth, but they don't give a damn about what's going on on the Hill.Generally speaking,of course.



"Its even more interesting and informative if you read posts before condemning them after reading the name of the guy who posted"

This has already been addressed.I will say this;I unfairly jumped your case from the get go.I reacted to the fact that you were posting yet another ed. piece without me thinking of the content.That was wrong of me and small minded.It actually had less to do with the fact it was you,and more to do with the technique that you were using. A technique you have used time and time again. My bad.

PS Quit saying I called you a commie.That was the other guy you don't like.

[amasterp1322]

I really think there should be a exclusive forum where you have to ask to be in the forum where only the real members get to see it and the people who are just joining or the people who think we are poachers for shooting fish don’t get to see it. It should be called the F uck you asshole forum. Where you can call each other ninnies and what ever you want to say. Sound like a good idea mods?

$.02

[aaron proffitt]

Nah, the PETA folks who are trolling usually show themselves real quick.They can't help it.I've seen 'em try before in other places.

[amasterp1322]

Whos a PETA on here?

[aaron proffitt]

A while back their was a gal who had just joined and was posting up on the CA forum.She said she was doing research for some kinda project in the SoCal area.She was wanting all kinds of info. Just one of those things that just didn't feel right and alot of the CA guys called her on it and she bowed out and left.I have a gut feeling that they were probably right.

In any case,I have seen that before.They log in and ask alot of questions regarding kill/wound ratios,thinly masked enviro impact questions.That kind of thing.

[intowin]

Here is a good example of a troll...

Posted by Spearchucker in a thread dedicated to Christian videos under the religious forum...



Isn't this a spearfishing website? Can't Intowin, Gradyman, etc... start their own damn website about praising Jesus, etc... all the while being hypocritical as hell in the way they lead their daily lives...

But I digress - how about you guys go start your own "spearing for Jesus" website?????

[jettyrat21]

Seems one man's troll is another man's freedom fighter. Not so black and white, is it?

Vito

[Bill McIntyre]

Course,by going by the posted definition of a 'troll';I'd like to refer to the lost diver at Catalina thread in the Ca. forum. Larry uses the word 'God' in his post(it's in God's hands) and you,in classic Bill fashion, turned it into a religious discussion.Diplomatic about it; but none the less, you went on the attack at the mere mention of God.Surprised as hell that you haven't been tearing Gradyman's devotional threads to pieces.
In any case; that,Bill, is being a 'troll'.

I'll explain the difference for you. Gradyman's devotional threads started out by saying that they didn't want to argue with me or covert me, and were just for people with like minds. There have been other religious threads that set out to prove creation theory, etc., so they invited argument. Gradyman's threads are clearly labeled as a place for believers only, so why the hell would I want to get into them? I'm tolerant of the beliefs of others as long as they are tolerant of mine. Also, they were not injections of religion into spearfishing threads.

I may have over reacted to Larry saying "its in God's hands" but my concern was it expressed a belief that we were not in charge of our own safety, so I simply replied that our safety was in our own hands, and I firmly believe that. Its not as if I think I can guarantee I won't die, but I think I can sure change the odds, and I owe it to my wife and kids to try.

And then Brian went on to say that the time of our death is preordained, and that no amount of training or planning can alter it, and that set me off even more.

Maybe Larry meant that the final destination for the deceased diver, heaven or hell, was in God's hands. If so, I wouldn't argue that because its unknowable. But it came across to me as a statement that we were not responsible for out own safety.

So who was the troll? The person who brought religion into it in the first place, or the person who responded?

[Marcus]

Florida Gator's SUCK!!!

Is that a troll post? :D

[Bill McIntyre]

Not at all.

War Eagle!

[f94gator]

Florida Gator's SUCK!!!

Is that a troll post? :D

No more than "Marcus is an *sshole!!!"
Except the latter one is actually true. :D