Dog Tooth in Okinawa!!!!!!!

[BreathlessSight]

So today we decided to hit a spot that last time we were chased out by a nuisance shark. There was some fish there bigger than us. This time we went a tad south of that and did some deep dives deepest being 80ft and hanging out down there to call fish in.
Well with a minute or 2 on the bottom and some ecessive scratching resulting in the tearing up of my nice beuchat gloves. But also produced some rather curious dog tooth out of the current.
Well story goes, I spotted a good size one when myself and Rob dropped to about 60ft, would you say Rob?, and I began to scratch violently on the rocky surface. Rob was facing inshore as I faced out. Next thing I knew I saw that very familiar face coming for my shinny 125cm aimrite. But as he was just getting in shooting range and I was placing for his head, he turns in a hurry. Thinking there was a bigger fish around I turned slowly to see Rob surfacing with a grin on his face. I went up and told him we could have had a good tuna. So we dove again. I saw yet another but smaller tuna and even pointed it out to Rob who somehow didnt see it down there with me.
So this whole time I bet he was thinking I was full of BS while at the same time I was starting to believe his story just a few days prior further north about the dogtooth he saw.
Well on his last dive he went down and I heard the shot. I quickly dove down to help and out of the murk I saw a good size reef fish. I thaught it was a coral trout of some magnitude but in fact it was a "baby" dog tooth. Guess he thinks Im not full of BS no more. Well the tuna was not the sizes I saw but at least we had some tuna on this mostly fish deserted island. PAU!

[Rbautista01]

HAHA man I don't like shooting tuna that small but we don't see that many tunas that close to home.

[PargoAmargo]

Never mind small, that's dinner for 4 right there. Keep em stories coming.

[freedivingfool]

here's some fish that's been getting it lately.

[Rbautista01]

That spotted grouper looks pretty cool. I haven't seen one of those yet.

[joelovesfishin]

Glad to see there are some Dog Tooth around here. I've been fishing here for a while and have never hooked one. I wonder what they bite, besides the end of your spear. Those are some nice grouper, the Japanese pay top dollar for those boys, especially the dark ones. I went out to Bolo Flats tonight for some night spearing and only managed a small parrot. Keep up the updates.

[Don-in-Japan]

Spotted grouper is a baby Aramibai...like the big boys in Churaumi aquarium.

The Roi and Ara are good eating, but the Akajin (red one) is the prize fish. Note the longer streamers coming off the rear fin.. the other "Akajins" don't have those, just rounded. Up to 2500 yen/kg. during holiday seasons sometimes. (With a good headshot)

[freedivingfool]

well don where is a good place to sell these to make an extra buck or two? We ate the akajin(shashimi), and the Ara. The roi is still in the freezer, so these Ara get huge huh? anyone know how to cook these octopus and make them edible?

[BreathlessSight]

And thats what is was Don, a head shot. Yes the spotted ones get bigger. I have seen them. But what I have seen more is a bunch of these smaller ones for sale in stores in town.
Don, do you mind explaining the species on these three? I still laugh everytime I hear the law on these things.
That would be 2 long dives today both resulting in some long breath holds after a heavy night of drinking the day prior. Japanese people are very hospitable and literaly throw the alcohol down your throat :thumps: Im pooped...PAU!

[BreathlessSight]

anyone know how to cook these octopus and make them edible?

You mean cook em so that they are more tender :D

[Don-in-Japan]

Lobsters are strange monsters..they change colors alot as they molt.. the really old ones get a purplish hue, but the red appendages have me at a loss..

A while back, when I was out with the flu, my partner picked up a couple fish..check em out..

59 lb and 71 lb I believe he said. Being sick blows.

What law you talking about?? Gotta wait til after July..thats when they lay their eggs. Fewer eggs = fewer bugs.. haven't you seen Starship Troopers??

FREEDIVINGFOOL...the Aramibai's get up to several hundred pounds..I know you've seen the brute at the aquarium.

[JLittle44]

59 lb and 71 lb I believe he said.

Very nice catch, but not quite that heavy.

[Don-in-Japan]

Hence the "I believe". I'll ask him again tomorrow..I erased the mail he sent me.

[BreathlessSight]

Man let those GTs grow!! I have seen em over 100lbs. You know I think you guys get these fish on hook and line and then dress up and take photo in the water with em. :rofl:
I have yet to see the GT species around here. Must be that magic boat. I have seen island trevally ~ lighter in color and dont get so big
Oh ya the law. So I was told it states that only a licensed fisherman can take lobster from the ocean, reason being is that they raise them.
Yes that is why we take lobster with no eggs on them. :D I wont lie, I hand grab all of my lobster for this reason. Starship troopers, now we are talking!

[Don-in-Japan]

There are several different species around..I've hit a couple of the lighter colored ones, but GT's taste better in my opinion.

Actually, they are cardboard cutouts, coated in paraffin just to take the underwater shots.

You have to have a liscense just to discuss the vagueness of Japanese (Okinawan) laws..and the selective enforcement therof. Not knowing that will get you fined.

[BreathlessSight]

:rofl: Ya those ol laws
I have hit a lighter one as well. Still I havent seen a GT on oki. I havent explored much of the east side either. So admit these things arent near shore.
Cardboard cut outs? Good artwork :thumps:
I still like the idea of asking a fisherman to borrow his new catch to suit up and take some pics of it out in the water. :p
Haha I just thaught of this. I was thinking about your buds GTs and I know how the reef is shallow for a long ways over near your east islands. So I thaught about traveling even further from shore to find these things. That led me to recall a situation with Rob today. This dude decides to go around the fishermans lines today. So here we are going out of our way to be hovering over what seems like 500m+ water. Rob has the nerve to dive this and I cant even see him no more and not knowing where he is going to pop up much less if I could see him do so. So he comes back up and says dang thats deep I hit 75ft and still couldnt see bottom. I just chuckled thinking to myself no shit shurlock. So not making an effort to proceed to shallow water we continue to hover there in the deep blue. Staring at the forever blue does strain the eyes and causes you to see things. I guess to much floating in one place can get to a man cuz Rob then looks at me and asks nonchalantly, so uh yaaa... you want to go back now? :rofl: There really wasnt a point to this story.
You know Don it hit me, everytime we post pics of some bad ass fish and stuff you always try to fight back with these GT photos. Is it some sort of contest for you?

[joelovesfishin]

...anyone know how to cook these octopus and make them edible?

I was wondering how to make them less chewy. I'm going to try in the pressure cooker and see how it turns out. I'll let you know.

[PargoAmargo]

anyone know how to cook these octopus and make them edible?I used to do it often. You need a pressure cooker. Remove it from the pressure cooker 10-15 minutes after the the steam starts shooting out of the relief valve. Take out octopus and rinse in cool water. All the skin will turn to mush and you can squeeze/scrape it off with your fingers. Whats lefts is the white bare meat, tentacles. Then it's up to you what to do with it. I would slice it into coins and make a tomato based pasta sauce with it. Then mix it with my favorite pasta, fusili. It's been years since I had one as I never see them here, I'd love to eat one again.

[MauiFreeDiver]

Lomi lomi with Hawaiian salt or any coarse salt for about 10 minutes or until your hands get sore.

Forget about making it tender, just make Tako Poke and it wont be that noticeable.

[Don-in-Japan]

Its never a contest..just timing. I post em when I getum.

The taco you should eat raw on the swim back to shore..the way it was meant to be eaten.

Anyways..the two largest Ulua that I've ever seen have been in <6 ft. of water not too far from shore... just have to read the conditions. My partner can sniff the air and feel the Ulua. Hawaiian and Guam boys have extra sensory organs just for that..thats why I hit the spots with them.

[BreathlessSight]

Anyways..the two largest Ulua that I've ever seen have been in <6 ft. of water not too far from shore... just have to read the conditions. My partner can sniff the air and feel the Ulua. Hawaiian and Guam boys have extra sensory organs just for that..thats why I hit the spots with them.

You mean the tako? I have never seen a taco in the water :D
Well you can eat it how you want, we wanted to fry it.
So if it isnt a contest then why havent you invited me out since last time?
Conditions huh? I think its more of where your going than conditions. Otherwise Im sure one of us would have seen one by now.
Hmmm, I go out with the same type of people, yet nothing. Well if there not too far from shore, whats the boat for? You might hit the spots with em but they are the ones always holding up the fish.
Still aint no dog tooth! :p

[MauiFreeDiver]

I could've swore you said that you guys saw the biggest Uluas you've ever seen, up to 200 pounds or something like that. I remeber reading it but I dont remeber if it was Ulua you were talking about.

[BreathlessSight]

Ya doood different island. Im talking about Okinawa. Seems pretty dead around here and a lot of coral was destroyed with the last el nino so Im told.

[BreathlessSight]

For real? How come they didnt enter it into the record book for hsd or world record? Cuz I thaught that the 144lber was still the record.
Ya we plan on going back next week. Blue water this week.
Well it was strange, the first sighting I went down on a coral trout and out of the trench flew this big one. Then Rob shot his tuna and we were way out from shore in about 80ft of water when we were visited by a shark. Later Rob pointed these big fish on the bottom while he was still braining his fish and next thing you know they are headed for us. We might have been dumb and shot tuna with a reel but I wasnt going to chance these monsters. They didnt give a clean HS so I knew we would be back later.

[PargoAmargo]

What it must feel like at the moment of deciding to pull the trigger at that monster... Unbelievable.

BTW Breathless this is not the first time on your threads that pictures can't be posted unless uploaded to spearboard. Seems like your section has these restrictions.

[PargoAmargo]

I didn't see you editing and deleting but was doing it myself, then I remembered I already went through this on one of his threads before. Maybe that's their punishment for posting aquarium pictures :D

[BreathlessSight]

LOL no pushiment I turned it off. At the bottom of the thread you can turn that mess off. I keep forgetting to set it back.
Ya those beasts are strong!!!!

[PargoAmargo]

Last time when I asked you about it you said you know nothing about it http://spearboard.com/showpost.php?p=502013&postcount=24

Must be all that poor visibility and finding out you reached the bottom by banging your head on it :D

[BreathlessSight]

Last time when I asked you about it you said you know nothing about it http://spearboard.com/showpost.php?p=502013&postcount=24

Must be all that poor visibility and finding out you reached the bottom by banging your head on it :D

Pretty much. I didnt know then but with further research and investigation I found the problem.
When I visit florida you want to dive?

[Don-in-Japan]

I've hit smaller Ulua.. less than 30lb. Nothing like the 80 pounders my partners go for. I'm a lazy spearo! I've got some good pics, but dont need to post EVERY one of them.

The boat is for easy access. No use tiring yourself out getting there. We're a spoiled lot.

[freedivingfool]

i'm back. we have to make a trip to IE island, there's cliff's there with pure blue water action. There were fishermen pulling tuna and big ass grouper out of their boats. it's an easy trip that we can make

[skinnerusmc]

i'm back. we have to make a trip to IE island, there's cliff's there with pure blue water action. There were fishermen pulling tuna and big ass grouper out of their boats. it's an easy trip that we can make


It looks like I'm might not have a partner on Saturday, I'm down to go. Let me know if you need someone to go with. :beer:

[freedivingfool]

hey man were planning a trip tomorrow if your down to go.

[PargoAmargo]

When I visit florida you want to dive?Absolutely, hopefully by the time that happens I'll know my way around here better.

[BreathlessSight]

Thanks guy! I dont know when or if I will be there but I would like to one day.

[joelovesfishin]

So I thought that Tuna was good at Sushi bars............... I was wrong. Fresh is much...much better. :thumps:

Looks like a Katsuo/Bonita. Most Americans consider it a "trash" fish, but the Japanese eat the hell out of it. Did you nab it out near Zampa?

I did some diving tonight. Got several Parrot and about 4 lobster. I would have had a lot more, but lots of eggs in them. Saw a nice sized Octopus, but just missed it.

[joelovesfishin]

Nice looking fish by the way. You must have stoned him in the nugget, not any body shots. That's a good shot on a moving fish like a bonito.

[freedivingfool]

yeah we used those things for chum and bait, because they have too much blood in their meat.

[freedivingfool]

went out today to our spot. 300 of stairs to climb with 50+ lbs of fish to carry with 90 degrees and what seems like 100% humidity. I'm spent for the weekend. Anyways moderate current vis, was ok. still dirty and cloudy. Started off not wanting to shoot anything i haven't shot before. But the big parrot fish were just asking for it, since they kept wanting to swim up to me. Then me and k-fed saw something incredible. About a school of 30 uluas swimming all around us, then i peg one for the sashimi platter. They then dissapper. Next up we just kept kicking in the current hoping ot see something good, the coral trout started showing up. Passed on the smaller ones then k-fed gets a decent size one, I then peg a grouper at about 50 feet, i just dove down to check something out, and he came to investigate me, so I peg him. Tons of turtle were swimming around, but no big fish. Then I saw my big coral trout sitting in front of his hole, try to get a good head shot, but went a little low. He was about 4 kg, passed on a bunch of peacock groupers. all in all it was a fun day. Our other dive buddy popped some tako for the frying pan. So we got about 50 lbs of fish all together, free food here we come! :thumps: :thumps:

[skinnerusmc]

Nice man, it was hot as hell out there. After a day like today, it is about time the 3 mm goes in the closet. Though it did feel quite nice when the temp changed as you get deeper. Looks like it's time to get my camo. Did you two get pics? Hey, what happened to the BW trip?

[BreathlessSight]

BW trip? Thats a very good question... well Cameron said it best, some people just hate the white devil.
Hmmm I wore a 3mm today and I got cold. It all depends on how long your in the water. With a slow heart rate, deep dives, and 4 hours + in the water it gets cold. Heat is carried away from your body much like your car engine resulting in a drop in body temp and the feeling of being cold.
Hell ya we got pics! PDizzle has the good ones and has to resize them and cant do so till I give him the software. I wasnt mr. photo-Opertunistic today but here are some. Most of my good ones are on pdizzles camera. So enjoy these for now.
1. Pdizzles trout
2. We bring dive buds to carry our catch :lol: J/K
3. This turtle snuck up on me, startled he took off

[skinnerusmc]

Very nice so far. I hit my PB for depth, and I think for time too. 45 feet and chilled for about 15 seconds. Pretty nice. It seemed like it took forever to get to the surface, but I made it there calm. Better and better every trip.

[BreathlessSight]

Maybe you have too much wieght? Deeper dives require less wieght. I use a 3mm full suit w/hood and only use 6lbs.

[skinnerusmc]

I think I'm weighted properly. About neutral. I think I'm using 7 pounds with my 3 mil. It just seems like it takes a while to me, because that's the most water I've seen between me and the surface. The turtles must have been out this weekend, we saw a huge one too.

[BreathlessSight]

were we went there are always turtles. Lots and lots of turtles.

[PargoAmargo]

Are turtles legal to harvest in Japan?

[skinnerusmc]

were we went there are always turtles. Lots and lots of turtles.

I want to go there.

[BreathlessSight]

Are turtles legal to harvest in Japan?

I really dont know.

Skinner: Well we invited ya. :p Its a hike down the dam.

[skinnerusmc]

My schedule is wide open for next weekend if you guys let me know a day or two in advance, I'll definitely go. I'm scheduled to be an instructor for an up coming PME for my unit, and I'll be really busy. I'm probably going to take the week off before it starts.

[cww180]

Skinner,

That is were we were supposed to go on that first trip but the water was bad on that side of the island so we hit the infamous Kori-jima instead. What a bust!

[freedivingfool]

kouri island was great for us, lots of fish there. just got to find the hard to get to spots.

[freedivingfool]

it also depends if you have the right gear i see that your using a scuba mask. Resulting in increase pressure and needing tons of valuable air to clear it. that snorkel that you have, looks like it creates drag like a parachute. most of all what fins are you using, if you have proper freediving fins on you should hit bottom and get to air like a rocket. My fins i shoot down to 50 feet in about 6 kicks, and when hitting deeper 60-80 feet that's when your fins really matter most! It's all about having the proper gear. spearfishing is all about being streamline and creating less drag for yourself. you'll be amaze at how something meant for freediving will improve your diving. When i take guys out, we burn them in the water so we always have to wait for them to catch up. :thumps:

[skinnerusmc]

Yeah, I can see that happening. I tend to leave everyone behind when I go out, but that's comparing apples to oranges, because they are also using a scuba set up. You are definitely right about the snorkel, that thing pisses me off every time I go under. Especially when I come up. It falls off all the time, and I end up breathing water. :mad: I'm well on my way to saving up for the proper gear. Plus, my anniversary is coming up. I could actually get, one or the other, a nice set of fins, or a new wet suit. Which would you say is better to get soonest? About the mask. I don't really have problems clearing it, that is if you're talking about fogging. I do find that I have to blow out my nose a bit when I go down in order to relieve the pressure around my face. If that's what you're talking about, I think my first investment will be the mask, because that also gets pretty tiresome. Thanks for the advice, and the heads up. I've been researching fins. What's a shore spearo to do about all the full footed fins that are available for free diving, and the lack of open heeled fins? :beer: Below is what I use

[skinnerusmc]

I really dont know.

Skinner: Well we invited ya. :p Its a hike down the dam.


No worries about the hike. I'm down.

[BreathlessSight]

it also depends if you have the right gear i see that your using a scuba mask. Resulting in increase pressure and needing tons of valuable air to clear it. that snorkel that you have, looks like it creates drag like a parachute. most of all what fins are you using, if you have proper freediving fins on you should hit bottom and get to air like a rocket. My fins i shoot down to 50 feet in about 6 kicks, and when hitting deeper 60-80 feet that's when your fins really matter most! It's all about having the proper gear. spearfishing is all about being streamline and creating less drag for yourself. you'll be amaze at how something meant for freediving will improve your diving. When i take guys out, we burn them in the water so we always have to wait for them to catch up. :thumps:

:yup: When did you get so smart?

Skinner: The pressure on the face is what he is talking about. Also I dont know how many peoples would agree but the fins are the most important piece along with the mask. Masks arent that expensive if found online. Hana pa'a has some cheap ones and they are like the next island over so shipping em here is fast.
The open vs. close. Well you just get some dive socks that have tough soles that wont rip. Then you step ever so cautiously on the rocks/coral. Or just yak dive, its the only way to go next to a boat. Eventually your feet toughen up and you can walk on anything, excluding urchins. Im kinda use to it cuz as a kid growing up I ran barefoot a lot. One I hated shoes and two my family barely baught me shoes. For some reason my feet dont feet pain from the rocks when others do. Now that sharp lava rock is something to look out for too. I have plenty of scars on my feet from that mess from childhood.

[skinnerusmc]

So basically, I need a complete revamp of my gear set up. Looks like a good deal. Good gear?

[skinnerusmc]

Skinner,

That is were we were supposed to go on that first trip but the water was bad on that side of the island so we hit the infamous Kori-jima instead. What a bust!

Well, it was lame where we ended up going. Remember that long hike to the cliff side that I went to? That's where we should have gone. Camping was the issue for that though. We needed to be able to go deeper to get any good fish. Any luck this weekend?

[freedivingfool]

that's a good set up to me, it all depends. if your serious about getting good fish and improving your diving then, yes gear does matter. if your going out to just shoot fish for dinner and have some fun, then the gear you have now will do. But i would definitely get new gear, because eventually you'll want to go deeper. Leisure pro has some cressi 2000 or 3000 for really cheap 90 bucks. Mask is definitely important, as you go deeper the pressure will increase on your face, your eyes balls will feel like it was tear out of your face until you clear it. A low volume mask takes little ear to clear, with a big ol scuba mask you'll waste all of your precious air trying to clear that thing. Yeah we'll be going out this sunday if you want to come along. we'll problaly head up north.

[PargoAmargo]

These fins are terrible. You have an open heel which translates into a poor transfer of energy. This means your ankles will get tired much faster, ending your dive within 2 hours. They are also split which means you push less water and therefore move forward less. The split fins are for people who don't have the strength to push normal fins. I amuses me when people fall for that BS marketing strategy.

I found it preferable to walk over sharp rocks with slippers and then drag the slippers with the buoy, than to cut the dive short because of open heeled fins.

Without going to a freediving fin the Mares Avanti Tres is the best fin for general purpose snorkeling and scuba diving. It's cheap, can be found for $35 and will last forever.

[skinnerusmc]

Where abouts up North? I found the omer ice fins on leisure pro, (out of stock) for 214. I'm guessing that is a steal because they are all out of stock. Are those good fins? They look bad ass! Thanks for all the help. You would think that scuba fins would be more effective than free dive fins because you have to move through the water with all that gear on. That's pretty crazy.

[PargoAmargo]

For around $200 this combination can't be beat:

Any foot pockets from here: http://www.subprof.com/tienda/index.php?cPath=141&osCsid=17113ce7207645204fd89625a0dabe91

Glass fiber blades from me $135 (stiffness #3 or #4, I recommend #3)

[skinnerusmc]

You are selling a personal set of these? What foot size? Shipment?

[PargoAmargo]

I'm not selling used blades, those are my personal fins in the picture, I sell new blades only just like the one's in the picture. You must get the foot pockets yourself, for your size foot and install the blades in them, that's how you save money. I don't know what shipping is to Okinawa, freedivingfool will know, he bought a pair from me but I shipped them to somewhere in CA.

[skinnerusmc]

And the advice keeps pouring in!! Thank you very much. I'll definitely look into it. You will probably hear from me soon about this. That web site you showed me has the pockets for cheap. Thanks again. :thumps:

OK, I lied, I have to go to the jazz festival/wine tasting with my wife on Saturday. So I'll be on Tori station getting drunk. :beer: :thumps: Anyone else going?

[skinnerusmc]

For around $200 this combination can't be beat:

Any foot pockets from here: http://www.subprof.com/tienda/index.php?cPath=141&osCsid=17113ce7207645204fd89625a0dabe91

Glass fiber blades from me $135 (stiffness #3 or #4, I recommend #3)

Hey, would you go to Okinawa? thread and let me know what you think about the setup I bought? I ordered it last night. The fins I selected came with blades already in them for a good price, and I figured why not just buy some with blades, and then when I feel like upgrading, I'll hit you up for the Fiber Glass ones.

[PargoAmargo]

skinnerusmc, I don't think plastic blades are in the same league as fiberglass so I can't say you made a good buy, the fiberglass blades are that much lighter and stiffer. However, the omer will give you better propulsion than scuba fins and are as good a plastic blade as any out there, the foot pockets should be comfortable too, the problem is they'll wear you down more too.

[skinnerusmc]

skinnerusmc, I don't think plastic blades are in the same league as fiberglass so I can't say you made a good buy, the fiberglass blades are that much lighter and stiffer. However, the omer will give you better propulsion than scuba fins and are as good a plastic blade as any out there, the foot pockets should be comfortable too, the problem is they'll wear you down more too.

These foot pockets are interchangeable with the blades right? That will be my next upgrade. Or maybe a new gun.

[PargoAmargo]

Yes, those are the foot pockets I use, you can change the blades.

[cww180]

Does anyone have any expierience with the Picasso foot pockets or have you heard anything about them?

[PargoAmargo]

Bill Mac says he uses them and recommends them, from what I've seen he makes good equipment choices http://spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=48035

[Rbautista01]

Hey Pargo how much do you sell those blades for, and do they have a toe angle?

[skinnerusmc]

Nice looking fish by the way. You must have stoned him in the nugget, not any body shots. That's a good shot on a moving fish like a bonito.

Hey man, how's it going? Did you end up going on that fishing trip? How did it go?

[BreathlessSight]

Hey Pargo how much do you sell those blades for, and do they have a toe angle?

You know your advice almost killed prayot today?

[Rbautista01]

What advice?

[BreathlessSight]

the locking of the reel, but at least it worked.

[Rbautista01]

Shit works for me just as long as there not too big. If you let the doggies on the reef they tear your gear up.

[BreathlessSight]

He was bobing like a bouy and gasping for air while holding on to his busted up gun. That 2 tuna in one shot was amazing! I wish I got that on film or just recovered the fish after they snapped his bungie. Hell at least we got the one.
Dude I loved that mom and pop shop. They about cried in happiness when we gave them a tuna. It made the trip worth it!!! Also the little boy that pointed at prayot and said yakuza and ran inside. Then he proceeded to throw hyduken and fake fireballs at us.

I know, that one tried to take my slip tip to the reef. That spot is the most physically demanding spot ever. All me and prayot talked about on the ride home was about how nice it would be to have a boat. Did you see those big snappers and uku?
Oh ya, thanks for letting me use your gear and giving me a chance at the tuna this time. Sorry but I only saw 1 big one with shin and right when I made any movement he left. That fish would have been cool not only for the size but his battle scars too. lol He didnt have a right pectoral fin. Also wished I would have strictly filmed and got down showing prayot shooting fish with his fragile setup.

[skinnerusmc]

Wow, looks like you guys had an intense week. Must have been B.A.

[freedivingfool]

well here are some of the pictures.

[freedivingfool]

and more

[BreathlessSight]

You know what time it is???????????????????????????
Tuna Popin Action Time
Hey now, hey now, Where they at, where they at?

[freedivingfool]

hell yeah it's tuna action time! I was out there using my rob allen 140 cm gun, and still handing TUNA, they might not be monsters for the shots that weren't head shots. They still put on a good fight. One of my shots I droped down on the tunas and they came in close giving me plenty of time to line up my shots, about 30-50 pounders. So I lined up for a clean head shot, I shoot. next thing i know i see my shaft go clean trough the first fish, and enter the second one in the back clean through. so i just got 2 tunas in one shot. the one in the front was about 60 lbs he goes crazy and the other one in the back goes crazy so i have 2 fish on my shaft and line. I locked up my reel trying to horse them up, the next thing I see is my bunger stretching to it's maximum capacity, and just snap. So one Tuna gets off, and the other one is just going crazy on the bottom. I try to get kfed to go and get them for me, no luck. So here I'am out of breath and my heart is beating, so I drop down to about 50 feet and grab my shaft and fish, dying to get some air. So now I have a 30 pounder on my stringer. bungee line is broken. so i ghetto rig it to shoot some more fish, and then I shot more Tuna with my jerry rigged shooting line. I drop down on about a school of 5 tunas, and one was solo. So I popped him, but the shot was bad. So I try to horse him up, i was about 5 feet from getting air, and he drags me back down. i'm fighting the tuna and trying to get air at the same time. So all in all it was one hell of a good time, all Tunas taken by me with my Rob Allen 140 green handle with a tiny 6.6 mm shaft. On top of all of that saw a Napolean Wrasse of about 80 pounds but he was too smart for us, and snappers over 60 pounds, uluas over 100 pounds. I shot an ulua with my riffe c-4 with 2 gigantic 20 mm bands and the shaft just bounced of his thick head. I was i could of handed that one, shot an 80 pounder and he took my shaft into a hole and left me me a broken shooting line on my Rob allen 130 with my shaft sticking out of a cave, no ulua inside.

[BreathlessSight]

Yakuza!!!!!

Ill have that vid out here soon.

[Team_A.Y.M]

very nice fish!!!!!!!!!! :thumps: :thumps:

[Rbautista01]

Hells yeah im ready to go back already!!

[BreathlessSight]

It was some really nice water out there. Wish you came out, the fish were huge!!!! and the sand was so bright and water so blue!

[BreathlessSight]

Geeze your Trevelly ate some sort of grouper :D

[freedivingfool]

damn Aym how much to take us to your spots?

[BreathlessSight]

:rofl:
Ya... how much?

[PargoAmargo]

Nice fishing action guys.Hey Pargo how much do you sell those blades for, and do they have a toe angle?$135 plus shipping in US $10, the blades don't have an angle.


YAAAKUUUZAAAA!! :eek: :bolt: :rofl:

[BreathlessSight]

Here is the video I put together of the crappy vid I had taken. The quality sucks due to internet but that water was amazing!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hOuVz7V3vcY

[PargoAmargo]

Nice vid!! The water is so nice, I'm jealous. It's amazing you don't bend that flimsy 6.5mm shaft.

[skinnerusmc]

Here is the video I put together of the crappy vid I had taken. The quality sucks due to internet but that water was amazing!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hOuVz7V3vcY


Nice!!! :lol:

[joelovesfishin]

Damn nice fish! How do those doggies taste? I've been told by a Japanese buddy not very good, but I've yet to try one. I've been here about 2 years and have not seen a single Dog Tooth, most of my trips are to the Payao's and I guess they prefer being near shore. Good huntin' and great stories

[BreathlessSight]

For sashimi and shushi its not that great of fish. I dont really have taste buds so it tasted good to me like that. Most say to cook it and its better that way. I guess its more of a makerel than a tuna anyway.

[Rbautista01]

The sashimi is pretty damn good. I guess its just the asian taste bud. They don't enjoy a fish over six inches.

[skinnerusmc]

Here's that Bonita that I shot last Friday. Pretty cool. The other photo is the fillet afterwards.

[BreathlessSight]

Man look at the red meat on that sucker!

[skinnerusmc]

Yakuza, once you guys served those people some free tuna, you should have started "taxing" those people. Shake 'em down a little bit. :lol:

[Brownsuit]

Must have been a sweet trip. Awsome video!

[BreathlessSight]

LOL you know what I just thaught of thats funny. I just read an email from Erik from Sumora.com and seems that there are a whole bunch of spearos in Oki-land. Shoot when I first got here it was so hard to find a dive bud, now they just dont stop poping up. :p

[Brownsuit]

Almost 8 years in Okinawa and I only taught my buddies & I went until I stumbled across this site.

[skinnerusmc]

Kind of a good and a bad thing. It's nice to get on here and talk to people about it, but we don't want to over fish the island. I doubt that'll happen though.

[Rbautista01]

Man the Okinawans have overfished this island long before we got here.

[skinnerusmc]

Probably true. I'm leaving to the Jazz Festival on Tori. When do you guys plan to go out tomorrow?

[Team_A.Y.M]

sorry dude our spots is priceless, in reality, it took me nearly 3 years of scouting and monitoring this spot, so we got our average percentage up to about 90% of being there at the right time to shoot/or land these monsters.

its a very dangerous place to dive because of the super strong currents. you can only dive this location during strong water movement, b/c the monsters all congergate in this area/cave to rest during the strong current time. shit!!!!! im giving up too much already.

just think about it, if you introduced me or my teammates to your spots, do you ever think your spot will ever be the same again??? probably not right, well thats why I made a promise not to give up ours. anyhow you guys are better divers than me.....you have good heart to share/learn...........myself and teammate are compeditive. totally diffrent, but you do have all my respect as another underwater hunter.



damn Aym how much to take us to your spots?

[Team_A.Y.M]

LOL, :D
im back in hawaii this weekend for a tournament, I will be back in okinawa on tuesday, maybe we talk then.............safe hunting. oh and nice video/pics!!!

:rofl:
Ya... how much?

[BreathlessSight]

LOL ya I think you did give up to much not too many places around here where the current is that strong, with caves, from shore, and the water is that clear :p
Spots are only as good as the divers who fish them anyway. I really could care less if I gave up spots on Oki, there are bigger fish elsewhere.
I understand where you are coming from on the spot thing but the fish wont be there forever especially if they keep ripping off. :D
Competitive? By nature? Or are there tourneys on Oki?

Well have a safe trip and hope you place high in the tourney! Bring back some free gear :thumps:

Thanks for all the compliments to everyone!

[freedivingfool]

i just hope those monstas don't die with those shots! that would suck! BECAUSE i would of like to shoot them too!

[japanman]

two thumbs up for sharing!

My motto is; if i got a dollar you can have 50 cents, if I got a dime you can have a nickle, if I got a penny your just out a luck!

[BreathlessSight]

Sounds like there are a lot of pennys out there. :p

[Jagger8dogs]

Well like someone else said, I have been on Oki for five years this tour and knew of around ten guys that spear. I personally know six. Of those, only four of us are a bit religious (spearing at least once a week) types. There were also three other serious spearos (Manning, Wilcox, Selleck) who left within the past six months. What is funny is that we all have these "spots". Yet, from reading everything, and from having never come upon someone else at a place a go to, it would appear as if we have a pretty decent ratio of spearos to spots.

I would say that we should still be concerned with over fishing. Even if our local hosts don't care, we still should since it is us who are benefiting from such. Part of us "teaching" others to be spearos (as I have done and another has mentioned doing) is to teach them what fish you should be shot and what size of a particular species is fair game. Shooting small groupers or other reef species is bad business since they have not reached the age to spawn/mate. My apologies if I offend anyone, but if you are shooting a 3 pound grouper, and you have seen them in the aquarium weighing 300 pounds, then you should probably have not shot it. As I'm sure all of you know, reef species and pelagic species are much different. We could all go out and blast our fill of smaller tuna and such would have little impact on the fishery (I am not talking about commercial fishing which has nearly decimated the tuna worldwide (thanks Japanese)). Yet, if you kill a grouper, he is gone. If it was mature and had spawned, then there are likely other smaller groupers which will replace him. Yet if he was still immature then not until a mature female and male do the wild thing will you by chance have another grouper to roll in and take up residence where you killed the last one.

We all go through the starting phase of spearing wherein we shoot at EVERYTHING, hit very little, and often take fish that we would later come to let swim on. Yet, with some of the great spearing I see most folks here writing about and showing pictures of, you guys are far beyond beginners (I'm quite envious actually). For those "other" folks who are just starting out, we need to make sure we are getting the right message out there.

Be cautious about doing what is in the grey area or flat out illegal. You can't sell fish unless you have a Japanese license. Only one American has that (Capt Billy the fishing guide). This fishing union will be on your back if they catch wind of such. My interpretation of the local law is that you can spear if you aren't using tanks. Yet, several folks (Americans) who dive would try to tell you otherwise. That is why it is just better to stay away from dive sites. It only takes one colonel (or even local with some pull) to be out there doing the scuba thing and to get pissed over a spearo being close by. He then calls his buddies who call the boss (general) then the next thing you know spearfishing is prohibited and we are all burying our guns in our back yards. Further, the Japanese fishing union has harassed several of us over the years (not me though) coming off of various sites where fisherman are at. Again, just stay away from areas where the locals are at. Even though we are "legal", it could still have a negative impact for Americans spearing here.

Sorry to get so preachy gentlemen. I just wanted to throw some skinny out there. Water was great this morning. Hopefully it will continue over the best holiday in the world (4th of July). I finally found some doggies last weekend so if the gods of weather and water are feeling generous, I just may be able to join the ranks of Oki spearos nailing doggies. Happy Independence Day and have a safe and fish filled weekend.

GET IN THE WATER!!!

Jagger8dogs

[BreathlessSight]

Wait a minute.... Are you the capt that was out spearing at kadena marina this weekend? Doggies huh? West side!!!! Go get em!!!!!
Well I dont know who was shooting small grouper but shame on them! After some research the grouper that FDF has been nailing are in fact max sized at 40cm according to japanese fishing books.
Hmmm ya I remember the days when Manning and some guys were yelled at while fishing kin bay. 9kg makabu right there!
Well spearfishing isnt exactly legal. While I was with my biologist friend, jamie, he mentioned that you should speak to locals in the area and see if its ok maybe offer them some beer or fish later. Most people are cool with it but marinas like kin bay arent. It varies depending on prefecture.
Also capt Billy isnt the "only" american with a liscence to sell fish. Shin Mcguyver also can sell them. He can do anything!
Well if its banned in oki no problem with me. Oki is where the small fish play :D

Well thanks for all your info!!!! Have a great 4th and go get them doggies at hedo or where ever your going.

later

[Jagger8dogs]

BS,

Not me at Kadena. As I said, I avoid the public recreation areas. I agree on the offering of fish to locals. It’s even better when you find a family doing the camping thing on the beach and give them a monster. They are overjoyed (winning the hearts and minds). Thanks for the clarification on selling fish. I interpreted such as "fishing license=can legally sell". I’m sorry to hear you don’t care about spearing being banned. For me it is the only “hunting season” I get. I have never been to Hedo. Take care.


Jagger8dogs

[Team_A.Y.M]

do I know you? I use to spear ALOT with Manning, Selleck, Wilcox, Iwanic, Paul etc. I actually still keep intouch with them, Manning and Iwanic is in Hawaii, Selleck on the east coast and Andy??????? I dont know?

I shared many spots with them, because they did the same for me.

about the "spot" subject........I agree, I belive we probably dove all the same locations..............its just the "when/How" you dive these spots that will produce the most results. that just takes time/experiance/homework.

example like the big Gaata I landed, all of the above mention guys dove that same spot, but I/we did our homework on this place, putting everything into perspective (tide, moon, sun, wind, time, etc) that raised the percentage to a high level of these fish being there.

more later, anyhow take it ez. have a good holiday.

aym



else said, I have been on Oki for five years this tour and knew of around ten guys that spear. I personally know six. Of those,y only four of us are a bit religious (spearing at least once a week) types. There were also three other serious spearos (Manning, Wilcox, Selleck) who left within the past six months. What is funny is that we all have these "spots". Yet, from reading everything, and from having never come upon someone else at a place a go to, it would appear as if we have a pretty decent ratio of spearos to spots.

I would say that we should still be concerned with over fishing. Even if our local hosts don't care, we still should since it is us who are benefiting from such. Part of us "teaching" others to be spearos (as I have done and another has mentioned doing) is to teach them what fish you should be shot and what size of a particular species is fair game. Shooting small groupers or other reef species is bad business since they have not reached the age to spawn/mate. My apologies if I offend anyone, but if you are shooting a 3 pound grouper, and you have seen them in the aquarium weighing 300 pounds, then you should probably have not shot it. As I'm sure all of you know, reef species and pelagic species are much different. We could all go out and blast our fill of smaller tuna and such would have little impact on the fishery (I am not talking about commercial fishing which has nearly decimated the tuna worldwide (thanks Japanese)). Yet, if you kill a grouper, he is gone. If it was mature and had spawned, then there are likely other smaller groupers which will replace him. Yet if he was still immature then not until a mature female and male do the wild thing will you by chance have another grouper to roll in and take up residence where you killed the last one.

We all go through the starting phase of spearing wherein we shoot at EVERYTHING, hit very little, and often take fish that we would later come to let swim on. Yet, with some of the great spearing I see most folks here writing about and showing pictures of, you guys are far beyond beginners (I'm quite envious actually). For those "other" folks who are just starting out, we need to make sure we are getting the right message out there.

Be cautious about doing what is in the grey area or flat out illegal. You can't sell fish unless you have a Japanese license. Only one American has that (Capt Billy the fishing guide). This fishing union will be on your back if they catch wind of such. My interpretation of the local law is that you can spear if you aren't using tanks. Yet, several folks (Americans) who dive would try to tell you otherwise. That is why it is just better to stay away from dive sites. It only takes one colonel (or even local with some pull) to be out there doing the scuba thing and to get pissed over a spearo being close by. He then calls his buddies who call the boss (general) then the next thing you know spearfishing is prohibited and we are all burying our guns in our back yards. Further, the Japanese fishing union has harassed several of us over the years (not me though) coming off of various sites where fisherman are at. Again, just stay away from areas where the locals are at. Even though we are "legal", it could still have a negative impact for Americans spearing here.

Sorry to get so preachy gentlemen. I just wanted to throw some skinny out there. Water was great this morning. Hopefully it will continue over the best holiday in the world (4th of July). I finally found some doggies last weekend so if the gods of weather and water are feeling generous, I just may be able to join the ranks of Oki spearos nailing doggies. Happy Independence Day and have a safe and fish filled weekend.

GET IN THE WATER!!!

Jagger8dogs[/QUOTE]

[BreathlessSight]

Kadena Marina isnt a bad spot. I was told this guy that went out with manning and those guys was out there. If you go out from the boat channel, ways out, there is some good fishing.
Yes I understood your interpretation on selling and I what I said was that he is an american and he has a liscense to sell them. I guess you didnt read the post on the amazing Shin Mcguyver. :D
Its not that I dont care its that for just a few bucks you can visit the surronding islands and land monsters. You dont even have to plan tides and moons and whatever. They are always there. See pics. Of course I wouldnt like it if they banned it! Got to get practice in for the monsters!

Pay no attention to AYM for they have a secret spot and I know I havent been near it. I have only been a few spots on this island. :rofl: But I think he might be right. Though I dont think I have been near his spot since he fishes on the east side.

AYM you know Manning and Paul as well?


BS,

Not me at Kadena. As I said, I avoid the public recreation areas. I agree on the offering of fish to locals. It’s even better when you find a family doing the camping thing on the beach and give them a monster. They are overjoyed (winning the hearts and minds). Thanks for the clarification on selling fish. I interpreted such as "fishing license=can legally sell". I’m sorry to hear you don’t care about spearing being banned. For me it is the only “hunting season” I get. I have never been to Hedo. Take care.


Jagger8dogs

[Team_A.Y.M]

yes, I know manning very well, I just talked with him yesterday while I was visiting oahu. paul I known him since 2004, dove with him in those earlier years, have not really seen/been with him in the water since then.


Kadena Marina isnt a bad spot. I was told this guy that went out with manning and those guys was out there. If you go out from the boat channel, ways out, there is some good fishing.
Yes I understood your interpretation on selling and I what I said was that he is an american and he has a liscense to sell them. I guess you didnt read the post on the amazing Shin Mcguyver. :D
Its not that I dont care its that for just a few bucks you can visit the surronding islands and land monsters. You dont even have to plan tides and moons and whatever. They are always there. See pics. Of course I wouldnt like it if they banned it! Got to get practice in for the monsters!

Pay no attention to AYM for they have a secret spot and I know I havent been near it. I have only been a few spots on this island. :rofl: But I think he might be right. Though I dont think I have been near his spot since he fishes on the east side.

AYM you know Manning and Paul as well?

[BreathlessSight]

Ya last I tried to get him out he was busy with World of Warcraft. Some super nice guys though. I guess FDF is wanting to go tomorrow for the boat but wants to get out on thursday. Possibly by yak if your down.

[Don-in-Japan]

AYM..some of the pics are in the "All Other Gear" section if you wanted to check them out..

[BreathlessSight]

Awesome!

[skinnerusmc]

The pre 4th of July Party got me drnk. See you Thursday. DD on Wednesday for the wife and friends.

[BreathlessSight]

:rofl: Sounds like it

[japanman]

BS what part of SC? I am from Myrtle Beach and Columbia

[BreathlessSight]

Charleston/summersville area. Actually do you know where the westcot plantation is? That be where the house is. In the middle of a golf course. :D I have family in Myrtle beach. My uncle is part owner of the theme parks down there. I think the Pavilion theme park. I dont know. I havent talked to him in awhile. I know it use to be Wild Water n Wheels but not anymore. I do have family in the columbia area as well. Awesome stuff!!!! :thumps:
Do you have a SC flag hanging in your room too? :p
not a great catch today but I got a fish I never shot before. Too bad I heard its natorious for cig. Some doggies out there but I fumbled my gun then realized they were kinda small. After the lecture above I decided not to shoot. I think they were under a meter. FDF swears he saw a 150lber behind his Giant Mori Wrasse he was targeting but let live as well. :thumps:

[PargoAmargo]

Breathless, do you use a dive computer or a watch with a depth gauge? I started using a watch with a depth gauge and it's messing me up, I find myself obsessively looking at it when I reach bottom. Do you know what I'm talking about? I'm considering ditching it. Just one more thing to worry about that I didn't used to worry about before. I'd get down to where I need to be or not be able to do it and that's that, you think there's a need to complicate things with a depth gauge? I'm thinking it's just a way to be able to talk about how deep you went with your friends.

[BreathlessSight]

Pargo I know exactly what you are talking about. After awhile I stoped looking at it and eventually never wear it now. I do use it for strict freediving where it is more a safety device.

Here are them pics.
We got 2 parrots, 1 snapper, and 3 Taco! Gave one to a japanese worker at the marina.

[Rbautista01]

Pargo I have the same problem. I always want to know how deep I am but when I see im 70ft im like oh shit thats a long ways up so I cut my dives shorter that usual. The watch is good for keeping track of your surface interval though. Thats what I like it for the most. Kev that is a badass snapper. Maybe we can get the parents of that sucker that went sixty pounds or better.

[Rbautista01]

I don't wear the watch to make sure I don't go to deep. I pretty much let my body tell me what my limits are. So other than that I just like to see how deep I went and for how long. I wouldn't give up my watch but I don't really have a need for it other than the surface interval.

[PargoAmargo]

Thanks, I didn't want to crowd the thread so I deleted a couple of posts.

Nice snapper, what kind? I see signs in English in the background, are there many signs in English in Japan?

[BreathlessSight]

Well I would say its safe to have. This is how I do it now. I breath up till I catch my breath and feel realy relaxed. I do this all the time unless Im in the current then its hard to do so. If your down and you start to feel contractions then come up. I dont do deep spearfishing anymore. I dont have too. I would only use a watch if you were going to push yourself. I have been doing this for a little while now with about 3 dives a week. So I know my limits and my body. I have a good judgement on time spent on the bottom.
I wouldnt say ditch it cuz you can use it when needed. Just dont think about it. Just think about shootin fish. I was told I had big 12ft shark near me and later a little 7ft one. Both I never saw cuz my mind is on fishing. Its all mental. Now the sharks werent right on me, they were just barely visible and kept thier distance. At least the 12ft one was the other was right beside me on the bottom but I never knew.
Just try to stop thinking about it is my advice. Im not going to tell you to ditch a safety device. You just have to put your mind elsewhere and not on stats.
Yes there are many signs in engllish here. That place was an american owned place.

[BreathlessSight]

I dont know the kind of snapper but I was told they are very common for cig. The sushi dude said he will try it out a week from now. He was acting like freezing a fish for a few weeks rids it of this. He was telling me he ate one in HS and he got pain all up and down his body. You also could go bald he said. But japanese they love thier fish so he said he will eat and its no prob. This fish PRACTICE was his exact words. Meaning though junk I can still shoot and someone will eat it he just can give it to his customers. Oh and btw I dont sell them to him I give em to him.
Whle we are on the subject of toxins, you cant sashimi small mahi they will give you diahrea real bad!!! "Cook no problem, sashimi not so good" Small meaning under a meter.

[BreathlessSight]

Pargo, knowing my crazy self if I had a watch I would most likely find myself testing my limits.

[PargoAmargo]

I've decided not to use the *****ing watch, I mean I'll wear the one without the depth gauge if I have time constraints. I don't see any safety value in looking at the watch, if anything it breaks the mind body connection at the moment you focus to look at it. Can you break it down for me exactly how it is a safety, I mean describe a situation where it would work other than safety intervals, I don't need that because I know exactly when I'm ready for a max dive or less.

For cig eat a small piece, when I get barracuda I eat a mouthful right away, by the time I get home I would know if it's bad. Getting cig is a matter of degrees, the more you eat the more sick you'll be. A healthy adult male can handle a light case, it would be like a stomach ache and diarrhea. I got a case of cig once, it maxed out in about 3 hours and was gone in 6. All tests like seeing if ants or cats will eat it are BS.

[BreathlessSight]

So what happens by the time you get home? YOu have to crap real bad? Well he took it and said he would eat it. I guess if I was ever on "the island" I would try to eat one if I caught one. Otherwise I probably would starve that night if no one else caught anything.

Well I guess your right for depth.... Hmmm well some people when they are down loose track of everything and dont realize how long they have been down. So time would be good. But then again you cant base a dive on time cuz its not constant in relation to your body. You know I guess the best thing to do is listen to your body. Its the best info my dad has passed on to me as a kid. Also being hospitalized all the time I have learned to take note of docs advice but do what your body tells you to do.
I guess you only need a depth gage for video when your doing comentary. :p

[BreathlessSight]

Skinner want to go out tomorrow? Give my cell a ring, still got the number right? Shoot me yours in a PM plz. I would like you to use the gun and see how you like it.

[skinnerusmc]

Dude, I'm there!!! I was just looking for your number. No success. Send it again, and I'll call you now.

[PargoAmargo]

When I got sick I only ate half a 12" fish, at 3 hours I was passing out on the toilet thinking the world is going to end. I had to get home but instead passed out at a friends house. I don't eat it in the water, that could be very dangerous. I would eat it when I finish the dive if I had plans of cooking it upon getting home. If not then testing it can wait till later.

Thanks for going along with my idea, it's good to hear someone else see my point of view.

Have a good one diving tomorrow or break a leg, whichever to make it right. I was invited tomorrow on a nice boat and don't even have to share expenses but my wife is working the afternoon and I have to watch my little girl. I'll take the time to finish off my latest speargun.

[BreathlessSight]

why other people dont see it that way pargo? What are they saying?

[freedivingfool]

i love using my watch personally .shit, i paid 300 bucks for that thing i better use it. I just like to use it because here in okinawa the water is clear and sometimes when i do a dive i go so deep without realizing it and look at my watch and it's like oh shit 75 feet, so that's why i use it and most importantly for the surface interval i make sure i do triple on the surface of what i stay at the bottom on the last dive.without it i would always head back down too soon.

[PargoAmargo]

why other people dont see it that way pargo? What are they saying?I wouldn't say that people are saying to the contrary but just the fact that they are using dive computers means that they see things differently. There was a thread for example where I was arguing this with Bill McIntyre, he accused me of trying to look macho for saying I don't need a watch. But my mind is made up already, I will not be using it. As a matter of fact I hate it, it's another expensive thing that I need to be worried about bringing and losing, another gadget to grow dependent on. You know how when you forget a piece of dive gear and even if it's non essential it throws you off. In my opinion watches are made to be lost or damaged, same like wallets. I don't use a wallet either but that's beside the point :D

Freedivingfool, if you do 75ft and are not even aware of it, it is quite impressive, but not being sure about your surface intervals is not. When it's not crucial I probably cut my intervals short, but when it's important enough like when I'm setting up for a long dive I will take care with it. I will breath up and wait for this feeling where something inside relaxes. The key to this for me is to concentrate on exhaling, this feeling comes about after an efficient exhale, then it's a nice easy inhale and down I go. My depth right now is shit so I feel hypocritical giving advice but I feel strongly about this. Intervals IMO are not about time but about your body on a particular day and time in the dive.

[skinnerusmc]

I saw some dudes come out of the water with a 10 # snapper that I highly doubt had the chance to spawn yet. So I called the ecosystem police. :lol:

[BreathlessSight]

I was wondering why there wasnt anymore out there after that one was shot :)

Anyone want to hit the water tomorrow? I can just bring my camera if dont like the idea of me spearfishing.

[Jagger8dogs]

I saw some dudes come out of the water with a 10 # snapper that I highly doubt had the chance to spawn yet. So I called the ecosystem police. :lol:

JDS,

I'm glad you agree with me and it's good to here you're trying to make a difference. :moon: On a serious note, have you dove off of Kinser? I was here (1990) when it was off limits to go in the water. I would assume it would hold quite a few fish. Although it looks pretty shallow with the drop off being a ways out.

Have any Oki folks had a chance to see the 06 Jul 2007 Okinawa Marine? There is a very accurate and informative article on page 12. :bs: Looks like I will be turning in my guns to the armory this afternoon. I wonder if I will have to do monthly cleanings on them?


Jagger8dogs

[skinnerusmc]

JDS,

I'm glad you agree with me and it's good to here you're trying to make a difference. :moon: On a serious note, have you dove off of Kinser? I was here (1990) when it was off limits to go in the water. I would assume it would hold quite a few fish. Although it looks pretty shallow with the drop off being a ways out.

Have any Oki folks had a chance to see the 06 Jul 2007 Okinawa Marine? There is a very accurate and informative article on page 12. :bs: Looks like I will be turning in my guns to the armory this afternoon. I wonder if I will have to do monthly cleanings on them?


Jagger8dogs

Why the hostile moon smilie? :lol: I'm beginning to think that it might not be a good idea to overemphasize my affiliation and grade on here in case there are people that I shouldn't be smarting off to on here. Or it's just a forum, and it's all in fun. I was going to say to your original post. "whatever happened to starting somewhere or a learning curve." I know that pretty much every time I go out in the water, I end up with the largest fish that I've caught. None to exceed 6 lbs. Sometimes coming up empty of course. With experience comes standards. If we all only hunted big game, than this would either be a very boring sport, or a very expensive one.

I have my gun in the armory (no monthly cleanings are required :lol: ). I do have to request permission from my commanding officer to pull it out every weekend :bang: . What was the article about? I didn't have a chance to see it.

I have never speared off of Kinser. I believe it is still off limits. Though I did go out there when I first bought my snorkel gear 2 years ago, and it was descent if I remember correctly. Fairly shallow, but I didn't have anything to compare it to, and hind sight is not 20/20 on this one. Is it still off limits is the question.

[BreathlessSight]

Is it still off limits is the question.

:D

[skinnerusmc]

http://www.okinawa.usmc.mil/Public%20Affairs%20Info/Archive%20News%20Pages/2007/070706-spear.html


Check that out.

Jagger8dog, I believe that is the article you mentioned. haha. That makes me feel like a salty, old, vet, spearo. haha.

[BreathlessSight]

:yup:

Man 3 months? We have done it for 2 years as service members. My favorite part is how they are like we have been out in crappy weather but paid attention the sea conditions of course. lol
I remember back in the day when I was just a lonely freediver I met Rob, Prayot, and Chris. Between the 3 we would be in the water like 4 times a week. Where did all that enthusiam go?

[Jagger8dogs]

Skinner,

No worries on the comments. I just wanted to give you some recognition on your sarcasm, hence the moon. Plus no one even knows who you are (ELMACO 1542). I agree on the learning curve. Yet, if you don't need to go through such, then why should you. I had to deal with it. Like a lot of guys I learned with zero guidance. So I went out and bought all the wrong gear (except the gun RA 130) and spent six months floating around Kin Red in about ten feet of water, chasing and shooting at everything I saw. If our three amigos from the Oki Mar can get some solid skinny from a forum like this, then why not give them straight scoop. I do see what you're saying though and don't expect you to have the same stances as I.

I "thought" Kinser was open for diving now. It was closed to diving back in the day. I heard various reasons for the closure to include UXO (WWII), the crashed ship, discarded animal parts from a meat processing plant, and Mermen. When I returned here in 2002, the word was that the base commander was opening it back up. There should be an order on such.

I CAN'T BELIEVE you have to keep your gun in the armory. Please tell me your joking. If not, good on you for doing what's right. Bad on the man for keeping you down.

Typhoon coming!!! This may be the time to get my small pox shot. Who the hell makes a shot that keeps a guy out of the water for three weeks? Off to BAS.


Jagger8dogs

[skinnerusmc]

I don't know about the Kinser area. I do know that they took that ship wreck out of the water some time last year. How do you know so much about me? 113 is a beautiful thing I guess. Or is it closer than that? Have fun with that smallpox. I got mine in Iraq in the beginning of spring. Matter of fact it was right before the war started in 03. We were at a remote area with no showers for 58 days. Now that was the worst the smallpox can get I think. Still wondering how you know of me, and how well. Well, when I ordered my gun, it got shipped to my PSC box, and in route, it got snagged by customs. So I had to declare it and register it with PMO and then store it in the armory. It is a bit of a pain, but my CO is really cool about it, and pretty much just signs my letter no questions asked. Great boss!

[Rbautista01]

HAHAHAHA you marines are badass. Did you see the huge fish those guys caught. :lol:

[BreathlessSight]

Sucks they took the wreck out of the water.
What fish Rob?
Kin Red is actually a good spot. A world record tusk fish was pulled out of there.

[Rbautista01]

The one in the news article.

[BreathlessSight]

Oh ya! Thats a monster! I know I cant hit anything with the 3 prong. Need practice in that department. Maybe I could 3 prong a sailfish like that dude back in the day.

[skinnerusmc]

HAHAHAHA you marines are badass. Did you see the huge fish those guys caught. :lol:

Any article that can make me feel like a veteran spearo is a fallacy. HAHA. all Marines could learn a thing or two from those couple a BADASSES Yes one word. That's the only way to do it when you speak so highly of someone. :lol: :sleep:

[Jagger8dogs]

I actually thought the one holding up the fish on the pole spear was a little kid, which would have made it kind of cute for a guy to take his kid out to kill his first fish. With my new understanding of the photo I will follow Skinner's guidance and declare them TOTALBADASSES.

[skinnerusmc]

Skinner,

No worries on the comments. I just wanted to give you some recognition on your sarcasm, hence the moon. Plus no one even knows who you are (ELMACO 1542). I agree on the learning curve. Yet, if you don't need to go through such, then why should you. I had to deal with it. Like a lot of guys I learned with zero guidance. So I went out and bought all the wrong gear (except the gun RA 130) and spent six months floating around Kin Red in about ten feet of water, chasing and shooting at everything I saw. If our three amigos from the Oki Mar can get some solid skinny from a forum like this, then why not give them straight scoop. I do see what you're saying though and don't expect you to have the same stances as I.

I "thought" Kinser was open for diving now. It was closed to diving back in the day. I heard various reasons for the closure to include UXO (WWII), the crashed ship, discarded animal parts from a meat processing plant, and Mermen. When I returned here in 2002, the word was that the base commander was opening it back up. There should be an order on such.

I CAN'T BELIEVE you have to keep your gun in the armory. Please tell me your joking. If not, good on you for doing what's right. Bad on the man for keeping you down.

Typhoon coming!!! This may be the time to get my small pox shot. Who the hell makes a shot that keeps a guy out of the water for three weeks? Off to BAS.


Jagger8dogs

I wouldn't say that I am out of the woods when it comes to the learning curve, and I remember being pretty stoked when I started spearing to hit the 2 or 3 lbs. parrot fish. I think it's something that everyone should do, not only for the experience, but also to learn the how to shoot more accurately over time. I still miss shots, but not near as many as I would miss my first few times out. I wouldn't trade the first few trips out of catching little nothing fish for anything. I was stoked, and I had fun doing it.

[BreathlessSight]

I remember how I thaught this place sucked for fishing. We would catch like 5lb fish being the biggest we saw. Then one day it all changed... It amazing to see fish so big of the species you thaught only got so big around here. Its like dang I shot a 10lb Taman. Then its like holly hell! When you see the big monsters. There are some out there way bigger than 10lbs.
One time I was with FDF and I had to hold our yaks cuz we were in deep water and there was HUGE taman on the sandy bottom. Later I shot a Roi and began to rasp my knife on him (Manny Puig style) not caring if it attracted sharks. (actually I think I was trying to get sharks in for video) Well it attracted some big fish. Taman record size. They would stay right on the visibility line as the hungry and dumb 10lbers came closer. That was the day FDF almost broke the record :(
I bet if he did Paul Smith might be back spearin.
When I first went out I thaught a 3kg coral trout was big. I never seen bigger. Then one day I got a 5kg. Seen bigger but not on Oki.

AYM: Do you know a guy named Ben? He is like at the pool 24/7. I dont know his last name yet but he was saying how he use to go out with Paul.

[freedivingfool]

damn nurgers this Bronchitis ain't no joke dogs! I'm coughing like i got the SARS virus. This shit sucks, i'm on so much meds. I can't dive this weekend now due to the typhoon so i'm going surfing, or maybe who want's to go kayak surfing?

[freedivingfool]

Me personally, i'm like Rbautista we practice catch and release on spears. Now my goal is to shoot the tiniest fish possible because that really shows that you got skills to shoot a fish the size of your thumb!

[Team_A.Y.M]

LOL :D we all have out training methods right!!!!!!!!! LOL, im honest I did that before.

Me personally, i'm like Rbautista we practice catch and release on spears. Now my goal is to shoot the tiniest fish possible because that really shows that you got skills to shoot a fish the size of your thumb!

[BreathlessSight]

LOL you should have the saw the "MONSTER" Mu he got the other day. It was like 3 inches long. Good shot though!
Well I dont think the typhoon is going to get too close. Its still just slowly moving way south of us. If pressure changes then maybe.
Ill kayak surf!!! I made new seals and they are tight!
Dude throw the meds away! Docs tried to give me somekind of anitbiotic and into the trash it went. I feel much better :D
Hope you get better soon!
Surf or dive I dont care!
Hey FDF!!! Remember that black/white snapper you shot that was like 6 inches!! Man the people at the sushi bar went nuts over that little fish and we had big coral trout too. They loved little nemo so much they cooked it for us right there and then Yoshi ate some while working. LOL!!!!!