Shockline / lanyard

[ScottCarullo]

I'm curious about the different options for attaching the shaft to the gun, and/or not attaching it.

What do you use and why?

I have the standard line/shockcord that came on my 48 biller and I am thinking of getting one of the coiled ones so I don't have to play with getting it wraped back onto the gun - the most problematic thing I need to do after shooting a fish. I'm thinking it would be nice to use a coil but am wondering what types there are and if they affect the drag on the shaft any more than the std. line I have. My line is 12' which is usually not a problem considering the environment I dive in. I can get a shot almost 20 feet away which to me is far enough.

Thanks in advance for all the excellent info...

Scott

[greyface]

G'mornin' Scott - I just put one of those springy things made by Trident on my gun (48" Biller), but must confess, have never used it. I don't really like/trust it. I'm gonna go with the comm. speedline kit offered at: www.slinginsteel.com Check it out. Kevin knows his spearin'!

[Charlestondivin]

I used those coils for a while. One good fish and it was stretched out. After that they act like a phone cord that has been stretched by tangling and twisting. Ended up being a real mess for me.
They also seem to create a lot of drag when shooting.

[Grande]

dont get one of those coil things. they will tangle worse than the line you have on your biller. IMHO the best thing, other than just freeshafting, is some sort of heavy mono.

[swimndive]

If you are going to use a line, Kevin's (aka SpearOne) setup works for me. Someone already posted the link. ed

[Reef Raider]

Scott C do you ever shoot a free shaft ??
Do you carry a spare shaft on every dive ??

Just asking thats all .

[Bigtasty]

I've never had a problem using a simple length of 1/8" braided nylon with no shock device. However if you miss a lot, it will flare out the ferrule that slides on the spear and you will have to replace it as necessary. Other than free shafting I can't imagine what would be quicker than that. Hell... When I'm in the thick of it I don't even worry about the line. Just unclip the tip with the first fish and blunt shaft the next.

[ScottCarullo]

I saw the website you referenced... and the speed line. That caught my eye. I'm going to make one like that when I redo mine.

I'm just not sure on what material to make the line out of. No doubt freeshaft would be the fastest flight, but also the fastest way to lose a spear where I hunt. I always have a string, the advantages outweigh the disadvantages for my scenarios.

Mono I think would be less drag but have memory where its wrapped around the guides since its about 400# class. Does this cause a problem?

Spiderwire would also have less drad (about 200# class) but I believe would introduce a tangle danger due to its strength, size and limpness.

I used to have aircraft SS cable but I don't think I want to go there again.

Any other ideas other than just a piece of nylon like what I have now?

Scott

[subdude]

I tried Mono and imho it doesn't have the abrasion resistance needed around wrecks, stainless does but you cannot cut it. I can cut the kevlar (it is a bitch though) and I also have a quick disconnect between the line and the gun.

subdude

[ScottCarullo]

Hey subdude, I'm not having luck finding kevlar line, have any hints?

Thanks,
Scott

[subdude]

and let ya know. If ya can't find one, send me a PM and I can get one and send it to ya.

I think Trident makes 'em but I'll call when they open.

subdude

[subdude]

The guy siad they are made by Marine Products but they don't have any and neither does he.

Check this site out
http://www.bluewaterhunter.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/speargun_line.html

I have never puchased from them but they sell it by the foot.

subdude

[FredT]

Originally posted by ScottCarullo
Hey subdude, I'm not having luck finding kevlar line, have any hints?

Thanks,
Scott

Try and find a local sailmaker. Kevlar is used as strength elemnts in edges and batten pockets.

I believe it's that Dupont (CRS today) makes the fiber and several types of cordage, but the spools aren't small.

FT

[ScottCarullo]

Thanks for that link...

They didn't have a photo of it but I'm wondering, is it similar to #200lb spiderwire. Whats the difference? Also, what lb test do you recommend / use...

Thanks for the info!

[Otter-B-Huntin']

I recommend Dyneema Line for in-shore hunting and hunting around wrecks (i.e. structure) or Stainless Steel Cable non-coated. Dyneema can be hand-tied, and is an extremely abrasion resistant synthetic like kevlar. It boasts a 570lb test. I solved my concerns in cutting stainless steel by always diving with SeaSnips (Trama Shears), freediving or SCUBA I am never without one.
Concerning AutoCoils, I do not recommend them. for the same reasons as stated by "Charlestondivin".

However, if you use a short pneumatic the 6ft AutoCoil can slide over the shaft and given it's short length doesn't tangle as easily.

[Steel Shootin']

Hey, Otter. Welcome to the board! Do you know Sea Witch? Noticed you both are from Maryland. Always glad to see people from different areas to learn from.

Scott

[SeaWitch]

AHOY Scott,

I know Otter-B-Huntin'....I generally see him long enough for him to pick-up his dive gear at work on his way to go spearfishing! :rolleyes: JK

[ScottCarullo]

Where can the Dyneema line be found?

Thanks for the info!

Scott

[Otter-B-Huntin']

If you are unable to find it at your local spearfishing supply store, I carry it. (See Profile)