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Screen Name
11-28-2003, 12:34 AM
Did a pretty adventure packed trip to the Marquesas and the Tortugas last weekend. My fellow spearfishermen were David Shelton, Lou Bonsey, Bruce Myers, Mike Ryan, John Bains, and Oscar Menendez, all great people.

Small Craft Advisories were in effect as we made the trip down to the Keys on Thursday. It settled down to just "blowin too hard" as we left port on the Playmate on Friday morning. The boat handles the seas well, and so does the captain......but a few of the guys became seasick, adding to the "flavor" of the trip.

Captain Bob Demauro made sure we got on fish right out of the chute. I got a 12 lb Black while freediving, Lou got a 22 pounder with tanks, and I lost a maybe 20+ lb mutton early on. The highlight of my day was the last dive. They dropped us in a fishy spot with lot of current and bad vis. It definitely had potential as we drifted from big rockpile to big rockpile. It was spooky. I did not do a lot of shooting because I was looking for the big one.

About a half hour into the dive, I encountered a nice Cobia and then some 40 lb Jacks. Just as I was trained on the Cobia, the silhouette of the largest shark I had ever seen appeared. The shark was 25 to 30 feet long. Its tail was maybe ten feet tall, its dorsal fin was 6 feet tall. Its pectorals were as large as the dorsal. Its gill slits alone were maybe 3-4 feet long. The Jacks and Cobia belonged to the shark. They, me, and my speargun, suddenly felt very small. "I hope I'm not over with" ran through my mind.

As the shark and its entourage drew closer and circled me a couple of times, I realized it was a whale shark. Hmmmm, I know they aren’t man-eaters, I think. I don’t know what he had in mind, but he and his friends kept circling and coming ever closer, until his pec fins passed about a foot from my face. He circled me for maybe 15 minutes and I was starting to get dizzy from watching him. He wouldn't go away. Hard to shoot fish in that circumstance, at least with my constitution, and grabbing his dorsal and going for a ride was the last thing on my mind. Eventually I got used to him, and as I finished my dive I decided to shoot one of his fish......not sure if it was a good idea or not. I was happy that the Jack rolled over dead rather than taking off and tangling me with an agitated whale shark.

The next day we covered a lot of ground and wore ourselves out kicking. I got a 27 lb Yellowfin and a 9 lb mango. David Shelton got a 33lb Black and missed a 70 lb black. Bob then dropped us on a huge middlegrounds type ledge, 140 feet deep and 60 feet tall. David and I swam quite a ways, and then came to a 45 lb black. We chased him around a rock for a while, but never could get a clean shot. He was educated. I swam down the ledge.......and encountered maybe 10 other big blacks. I shot at a tail down in a crack and missed. I spooked an 80 to 100 pounder into a hole and he murked it up. I moved on to let it clear a bit, then took a shot at a 50 pounder that was lying on his side, just lying there, he looked like he was taking a nap. As I drifted quietly to him, he started to move and I took the shot. The vis was so good and the fish was so big it was deceptive.......I was too far away, and the shaft fell harmlessly into the sand at the spot where his brain had been laying. Out of time, I planned my next assault as I surfaced.

"I want to dive that spot again", I said. "Backdiving is a waste of time, those fish are spooked, I have another spot just like it nearby" they said. Why I let them talk me out of my rule "you never leave fish to go search for fish", I will never understand. Popular opinion prevailed, and we moved to a fresh but similar spot a mile or so away. I was loaded for bear with both David's No Ka Oi with a reel and my Spearfishing Specialties 52". Lucky for the Grouper, but not for me, they were not there.......and there were no dives left.

Overall, a great trip on the Playmate, and we want to thank Captain Bob for the adventure and excellent accommodations. I am working on another trip as we speak.

By the way.........I can assure you there was no shortage of Hogfish in the Marquesas or the Tortugas. In fact, we got more hogfish than anything else.

Screen Name
11-28-2003, 01:09 AM
With a couple hogs.

Screen Name
11-28-2003, 01:11 AM
And the rest of us watch him work.

Screen Name
11-28-2003, 01:13 AM
Show off a couple of fish. Doesn't Dave look a little too proud of that one?

Screen Name
11-28-2003, 01:15 AM
Mine is a 9 lb Mango.

Screen Name
11-28-2003, 01:24 AM
Because we saw another one on Saturday. He didn't wait long enough for us to freedive him.

Griswold
11-28-2003, 08:22 AM
Great report, wish I coulda seen the look on your face when you first caught a glimpse of that whale shark.

Screen Name
11-28-2003, 08:49 AM
Thanks. I did need to clean out my wetsuit after that.

I forgot this pic of a 27lb Yellowfin. :D

Spearooo
11-28-2003, 09:19 AM
great report......
sounds like an awsome time.....

Slay Ride
12-01-2003, 01:38 PM
Awesome report Screen. That's a nice yellow you got there!! Good pictures. Les

kitefisherman
12-01-2003, 01:51 PM
Great trip and pictures guys!

f94gator
12-01-2003, 05:21 PM
Nah, it's a pinfish. :D

Straightup
12-01-2003, 06:06 PM
Nice yellow fin. Is there a size limit on them? I never heard of one?

Screen Name
12-01-2003, 06:22 PM
Thanks. Same limits as all the other grouper. The biggest one I have heard of is 46 lbs if I recall. I got a 39lbr in the grounds a few years ago.

SpearDiverTampa
12-01-2003, 06:51 PM
I saw BubbleJunkie get a big one over the summer in the grounds on a trip with EJ on the Gag Reflex. I think it was about 40lbs.

Old Bateman
12-01-2003, 07:00 PM
Wow, nice trip! What's a trip like that cost, if you don't mind me asking?

Screen Name
12-01-2003, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by Old Bateman
Wow, nice trip! What's a trip like that cost, if you don't mind me asking?

The boat is $2000/day in 2004 and you can take up to 11 divers. We took 8.

Old Bateman
12-02-2003, 05:45 PM
Sweet looking trip. Will have to try it sometime!

Sheri
12-04-2003, 07:13 PM
Screen, Great trip report! That sure is a great boat with great food and great service, isn't it? I love those trips. You guys got some nice fish there. When are you going back?

So funny about your description of the whaleshark. I saw one a few years ago that scared the heck out of me. I looked up for some reason (probably the shadow passing over me), and I saw the outline of a gargantuan shark just a few feet over my head. I couldn't see the mouth or the polka dots, just the white silhouette of a giant shark body.....looked like a 30' Great White from that angle. Have never felt so small as I did then!

Good job, guys.

diligaf
12-04-2003, 11:13 PM
Sheri - I'm telling ya, that was a Killer Whale! The only known natural predator of the Great White!

Sheri
12-05-2003, 12:18 PM
Yeah, that was funny. I wasn't going to tell that part of the strory, Dave. But you asked for it!

The other part of the story is.....after I got over my heart attack, I starting banging my tank so that Dave would look back at me and at least see what it was that ate me. He looked back and his eyes got real wide, which made me even more scared. He was waving his arm....like "get over here!"

I zoomed out of there, and looked back. In the meanwhile, the whaleshark had tured around to look at me. I saw his weird mouth and figured out it was a plankton eating whaleshark after all. We continued on, and when we surfaced I asked Dave...."what the hell was that?". Dave answered, "I think that was a Killer Whale, the only known predator of the Great White."

I then realized Dave did not know as much as I thought he knew about the ocean. He knows lobsters and hogs alright, but he doesn't know the difference between a whaleshark and a Killer Whale. I still kid him about that.

diligaf
12-05-2003, 11:01 PM
Very Funny Sheri, but are you really sure it wasn't a killer whale?

Chad Carney
12-05-2003, 11:37 PM
Dave,

You're a good sport buddy!

Chad

Sheri
12-05-2003, 11:55 PM
Yeah, Dave, I'm sure. If a Killer Whale was on top of my head like that, I would not be here now. And you might not either. I woulda been the appetizer, and you woulda been the meal. :D

Screen Name
12-06-2003, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by diligaf
Very Funny Sheri, but are you really sure it wasn't a killer whale?

Of course it was, Dave. It was one of those Polka-Dotted Killer Whales. :eek:

diligaf
12-06-2003, 08:35 AM
Was it a Killer Whale looking for its next meal or just a playful Whale Shark looking for a playmate? We may never know the answer, but I’ll give the reader the facts and let you decide…

It was a cold winter morning back in February 2000. The north winds were howling, the water was unseasonable cold and the currents were running in wildly strange patterns. No one could explain the cold and current, but some suspected it was a Y2K thing. The only thing for sure was the strange occurrences and sightings in the South Atlantic that year and only the hardy dare venture off shore.

On that eerie winter morning, Sheri and I headed out to dive off Deerfield Beach. One must always be on their toes when diving with Sheri, she is quick and stealthy underwater and is known for her ability to attract cobias and LARGE SHARKS! We were headed down the reef gathering hogs and lobsters when all off the sudden I hear “Quack!” “Quack” for Sheri’s old sub-alert and suddenly all hell was about to break loose!!!

Looking back, I see Sheri staring down this large 30’-40’ silhouette and looking back at me with an expression on her facing somehow saying “What the hell am I supposed to do?” Quickly thinking, I decide we should use the “ostrich” defense and bury our heads in the sand. So I wave for Sheri to get over next to me and when she got closer, I yelled through my regulator “Pretend he’s not there, if we don’t bother him, maybe he won’t bother us”.

What Sheri doesn’t know is as she swam closer, the whale swam behind her. I could just make out the expression of disappointment on the whale's face. But the question remains… was it a look of losing a playmate or perhaps the look of a hungry killer whale losing the chance for an easy meal???

We may never know the answer to what exactly swam up that strange winter morning. Was it just a playful whale shark? Or did the unseasonable cold waters, strange currents, and the Y2K phenomenons draw down a killer whale from the north? Or perhaps have some suggested, could have it been the deadly pok-a-dot killer whale? You decide…

;)

Screen Name
12-06-2003, 09:09 AM
Just got a couple more pics..........

The good ol boyz from the hood ride the hummer to the Keys.........How do ya like my new H2?

Screen Name
12-06-2003, 09:10 AM
David Shelton with a 33lb Black..........

Chad Carney
12-06-2003, 09:42 AM
Dave,

You say you saw it swim.
Think about that for a long moment.

A whale sharks tail must move 15 feet from side to side...
Shamu's tail on the other hand moves which way????

Sheri's sure about what it was.

I think you stepped in it this time Dave!

Chad

diligaf
12-06-2003, 12:17 PM
Chad & Bucket – Could have there really been unseasonable cold water and strange currents on that eerie February morning all brought on by Y2K? Could have there really been a killer whale? Or was it simply a fictitious account by the author? Maybe his poor attempt at humor? We may never know…

fizisition
12-06-2003, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by diligaf
Chad & Bucket – Could have there really been unseasonable cold water and strange currents on that eerie February morning all brought on by Y2K? Could have there really been a killer whale? Or was it simply a fictitious account by the author? Maybe his poor attempt at humor? We may never know…

or maybe they were just EMBELLISHING!:D

JCACTION
12-06-2003, 05:47 PM
Screen, count me in whenever you go out on the playmate again, that is one of my favorite boats to dive on. They are just great and if Bob likes you, you get fish lol lol lol Sheri knows about that.I would go anytime so please let me know when youre going on it again. They closed off one of the best spots out there. Texas Rock it normally holds incredible muttons.

Sheri, Daryl sent me some pics of your trip you guys had a tuna party!!! I love it!!!! He asked me to send a pic to post on his website but all my pics suck cause I never use a camara just the phone camara so i will have to catch something nice and put it on his site. Maybe if we all go on the playmate it can be a group picture with lots of big fish.....Dont worry screen, Ill let you hold one of daryls guns and you can still use your ss gun lol lol lol

for real let me know when youre planning to go back im there.

Screen Name
12-06-2003, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by JCACTION
Screen, count me in whenever you go out on the playmate again, that is one of my favorite boats to dive on. They are just great and if Bob likes you, you get fish..........


Roger that JC. First I have to find out if Bob likes you or not! :D I'm pretty sure he likes Sheri..........just a little more than me!

I had my chance at a big one, whether he liked me or not. I just kinda blew it, honestly. :(

Screen Name
12-06-2003, 10:20 PM
Got a couple more pics today......

Screen Name
12-06-2003, 10:24 PM
Hey.......thought they were out of hogfish in the Tortugas?

Oscar (far left) won the ugliest hogfish award. His hogfish looked like it fell on its face as an infant.

Sheri
12-06-2003, 10:44 PM
Screen, you're looking at it all wrong. You did NOT blow it....you let him fatten up more for next time. :D

richhermes
12-06-2003, 10:55 PM
Awesome pics, John!

JCACTION
12-08-2003, 12:01 PM
lol lol lol oh he likes me allright, just ask bluphoria and scuffy :) we slammed so many fish there it was actually starting to get boring if you can imagine that!!!!! really please count me in when you plan it again.