Howdy

[SlipTip2]

I live in manasquan and have an offshore/canyon boat. Anyone crazy enough to try some offshore hunting this year?
I'm dying to try it but too chicken to do it alone and my fishing crew refuses to get in the water.
Oh, and are there any shops in jersey that have quality hunting equipment other than the LBL/Biller stuff?
Looking forward to meeting some of you.

[tm999xxx]

lbiscuba has omer guns .. last time i was there they had a bunch..

we talking scuba or freedive?

[jmik90]

call charlie at lbiscuba,he will help you out.

[SlipTip2]

Freediving. I assume this place is in LBI?

[TriggerNJ]

I'm so down! I have a buddy who would be into it too. Just let me know ahead of time so I can gear up for something like that. I'll send you a PM when the season gets closer. I don't know of any shops around here that carry too much in the way of spearfishing. Mostly just a few of the cheaper guns.

[TriggerNJ]

I gotta check this LBI scuba out the shops around me don't carry anthing but JBL and Billers

[kill em all]

The only real shop on the east coast is Florida Freedivers. Either go to FL or order from there page. Lets chum the Hudson and get in the slick. Sept. sounds right.

[FITS]

im game to play with blue dogs...

as far as shops, i just order everything online

[SlipTip2]

Last year we had a fabulous Bigeye bite in the Hudson and the Tom's. I want to shoot one of these BAD!!!

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[JJ131]

Thats What Iam Talkin About ..In Ref To Your Question Do You need A Gun Or Some Gear If So I Think We Can Help You

[SlipTip2]

I've got the gear and some experience, I need a few to jump in with me. My fishing crew won't have anything to do with getting wet,
I would think an inshore trip shooting some mahi on the pots to work out the gear and get used to each other would be a first step, safety protocols etc.
Then a trip to the edge.
We got some big Hoos out there too.

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[JJ131]

Do U See Mahi Inshore

[SlipTip2]

Yes there are mahi in the mudhole when the temps are right. They can be right on the beach if the conditions are right, but usually are within 20 miles. We get some nice ones offshore up to 40lbs and there can be some hogs on the 20 pots. it would be worth the trip.

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[JJ131]

Nice .I Am Thinkin On Taking The RIB Off Of LBI At The Jetty I Heard That Is A Great Place To Go

[SlipTip2]

Barnegat Ridge is a great place to think about for mid summer mahi and you might stick a school Bluefin tuna there too. Just make sure you have a tuna permit. Ollies lump is another good spot and both are reachable with good ocean conditions with small boats.

[JJ131]

How Far Is Barn Ridge From Shore What is The Depth I Scuba But All My Buddys Freedive

[SlipTip2]

Probably about 15 miles from barnegat, I'm not sure as my home inlet is Manasquan. If memory serves me, the depths are from 65-120. The bluefin and the mahi will be in the upper third of the water column. There are quite a few pots out there too and the occasional mako.
FWIW

[TriggerNJ]

Wow, great pics. I have been dying to get a crack at some pelagic fish and your obviously good at getting them. I'm sure you'll have no problem rounding up a crew here. Me included.:D

[jmarch24]

I'm down, I run out of Jersey City to the Dip, Hudson and Toms....did real well on the big Yellows at the 100 square last fall...but haven't gotten wet yet....I would love to start out with the Mahi at the Glory or mud...so let's get it done.

[waterman482]

I'm down, I run out of Jersey City to the Dip, Hudson and Toms....did real well on the big Yellows at the 100 square last fall...but haven't gotten wet yet....I would love to start out with the Mahi at the Glory or mud...so let's get it done.

Have you ever done any bluewater diving? its a totally different ballgame out there than close to the beach! and its a good idea to have other people that are experienced with you that know whats going on too! the group of guys i bluewater dive with all have atleast 5yrs of experience and we have all worked as comm or sportfishing capts too so we have a good idea on whats going on out there! Im not sure of your experience level but it would be a good idea to go with someone who does have experience out there.

[SlipTip2]

Waterman makes a good point, but everyone's gotta learn sometime. As to the offshore experience, I have over 30 years out there on a regular basis on two oceans. Blue water fishing can get you hurt real quick too.
As to the blue water hunting experience, I've only ever hunted in Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Hatteras, and a few Carrib islands.
So I'm no pro, but not exactly a novice either.
As to hunting experience, I have shot most of the North american game species including some danderous ones. Although bluewater hunting does inherently have its own dangers, they are no greater than say high country horseback hunting, Wilderness hunting, hunting Grizzly, Mountain Lion etc.
All of these sports involve sharp, dangerous stuff, weather, injury, entanglement, risk, etc, but can be managed through practice, experience and a mature approach to the sport, ie, learning when to cut your losses, guns etc. rather than macho yourself into a dead man.
Spearfishing is no more, or less, dangerous than any other blood sport.
I suspect we can sort things out in a safe manner, but maybe we should ask Waterman, or others, to join us. I'm always willing to learn a few new tricks.

[waterman482]

I have a good friend that is a very experienced freediver that is also a charter capt and we are talking about putting together some bluewater spearfishing trips! PM me for more info! all of us have quite a few dives in the canyons under our belts and know the drill very good

[JJ131]

SlipTipAnd Waterman Are Both With Out A Doubt 100% Right You need To Know Your Limitations. I Know This Because My Best Friend Is Dead. 41yrs old 16+ Years As A Navy Seal The Best Diver I Ever Knew And Most Well Rounded Guy 100%. Went To The Hell Divers Comp Last Year And Didnt Come Back Simple As That. He Had Years And years Of Experience Of Spearfishing Blue Water In 4 Different Countrys Bad Bad Things can Happen you Need Guys That Know What They Are Doing.The Farther You Go Out

[TriggerNJ]

Excellent points everyone. Sorry for your loss JJ131. I thank you for sharing something so personal to show us the importance of safety and how that in spite of the best preparations tragedies can still happen.

I initially responded to the thread very enthusiastically and quickly. However, I’m well aware that there is a high degree of inherent danger, training, and learning involved in attempting to spear the blue. I’ve been thinking about this for some time now and successfully spearing a variety of these pelagic fish has become a personal goal of mine. I would be honored if the experienced people on this board would help me attain that goal. I’m willing to put in the work necessary to do this in a manner that is as safe as possible for everyone involved. I know it’s a very small group of people that can and will do this. I’m hoping to meet and learn from everyone that I can.

So what I’m saying is if someone experienced like waterman is interested in teaching. I’m very interested in learning.

[33fish33]

Does anyone in Jersey have a blue water gun?

[bruce_s]

I have a 56 inch hybrid that would do barely.I have some experience doing some bluewater in the stream off hatteras.
I am definitely in and have your number sliptip.Check your pm's please.
Good idea to have a plan for an emergency and a med kit and oxygen.
I have been on the ridge when the bite stops and the fish sound and boogie.There are some very large predators out there on occasion.Definitely much different than jetties etc.

[jmarch24]

I agree with all the points as far as safety and limitations go....I for one, have not been bluewater diving....but as far as boats go...you will be hard pressed to find a Captain as prepared and redundant as myself. I am also a 100 ton master ticket holder as many of you here, so I know all about preparedness...it took me two years to save enough to buy my 6 man raft, 2 EPIRB's, immersion suits, Sat phone, etc...before I even considered buying my gold reels..and I have been running my own boats to the edge for many years. Not to play the who's dick is bigger game, but I for one know the risks..and it doesn't only apply to diving, the 100 square is 118 statute from my slip, so it's never a bargain, especially in the fall. So like I said..I'm game for bouncing around the "inshore" pots to get some dive time...but as far as Hudson etc goes...even when I get a gun capable..it may be quite a while for that.

[JJ131]

Yea I Agree With ya Go With Guys That know. That is What I Do.After James Past I Thought That Was It.After Getting Alot of Stairs/Dirty looks From People Because I Still Dive. I Am Still In the game Bruce S /Tony C From Jersey Are Great Guys To me. They Kept me In the Game And Teaching me What To Do And I Still Take It Slow And Take My Time. I Have Been Diving Since 17yrs Old Now I am 31 I Still learn So Much Each time I Go Take Care Good Luck

[waterman482]

I agree with all the points as far as safety and limitations go....I for one, have not been bluewater diving....but as far as boats go...you will be hard pressed to find a Captain as prepared and redundant as myself. I am also a 100 ton master ticket holder as many of you here, so I know all about preparedness...it took me two years to save enough to buy my 6 man raft, 2 EPIRB's, immersion suits, Sat phone, etc...before I even considered buying my gold reels..and I have been running my own boats to the edge for many years. Not to play the who's dick is bigger game, but I for one know the risks..and it doesn't only apply to diving, the 100 square is 118 statute from my slip, so it's never a bargain, especially in the fall. So like I said..I'm game for bouncing around the "inshore" pots to get some dive time...but as far as Hudson etc goes...even when I get a gun capable..it may be quite a while for that.

You don't have to wait awhile just make sure the guys you go with are prepared and have a good idea of whats going on! a good friend of mine killed a mahi before he killed a tog or striper! having a epirb and liferaft are very important but having people that know what to look for is far more important to me

[downandout]

Slip Tip 2, I spend a lot of time in the summer cruising for the tuna. PM me I would like to talk with you and see if we are a fit, as I don't dive with anyone that can't pull my A$% out of a sling when I am diving and that I don't like talking with. If you are serious I can fill you boat with divers that do have offshore experience. Looking forward to hearing form you!

D&O:thumps:

[SpearBroad]

sliptip2 ~ have you checked your PM ????