Joe Biden for President?

[stevencabo]

Even though living in Mexico I'm buffered from a lot of the political arguments, it's still on a lot of peoples minds. I read the posts here on spearboard, and yes. I'll admit it, I did change my vote to McCain because of what I've read on SB. I think both candidates are worthy. However recently I recieved a chain email asking everybody to pray for Obama if he gets elected. And yesterday I asked a Canadian friend of mine who he thinks will be president and he said Joe Biden. My reaction was nervous laughter. I've also heard stuff that if McCain is elected that the other side will be crying foul. So, I'm just hoping and wondering after the 4th when it's all over, will we all be able to get along.

[FOWLER267]

I am for JM but who ever wins; I hope its a clear winner.

[Bill McIntyre]

I'll admit it, I did change my vote to McCain because of what I've read on SB.

I hope it wasn't this sort of thing that convinced you.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/01/hussein-chant-at-palin-rally/

[zenspearo]

whoever wins needs the whole country to work with him to get us out of this mess. I hope both sides can put down their dukes and get to work after Nov. 4th.

[stevencabo]

I hope it wasn't this sort of thing that convinced you.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/01/hussein-chant-at-palin-rally/

No, it wasn't that. I like Obama and the way he talks but I've been ripped off a few times in my life by smooth/fast talking people, so that kinda made me wary. I went with McCain because I think he has more experience. It seems that most politicians are crooks, and in Mex. they make a joke about if you're going to vote for a crook you might as well vote for one that you know.
I just don't want to see riots in the streets if McCain wins, or Obama getting shot if he wins.

[Don B]

No, it will not be over for a while. If Obama wins we will hear about the ACORN voters and the impact illegal voters made, but that will soon pass and the country will get on with it.

If McCain wins there will be riots, looting and burning, there will be court battles and cries of racism and the election being stolen, and it will drag on for 4 years.

Also if Obama wins there will still be some rioting, looting , and burning, for celebrations, that's just what a portion of his side does.

[rigdvr]

On DL Hugley's news show on CNN i think? he had Al Sharpton and they both admitted being nervous about how "they" might steal this election from black america. It will get ugly if McCain wins. The mindset is already that if Obama doesnt win, the whites MUST have stole the election b/c of race.

[Seth]

Also if Obama wins there will still be some rioting, looting , and burning, for celebrations, that's just what a portion of his side does.


didnt know that the dems were partial to causing riots and looting to celebrate stuff?

[bgbill]

didnt know that the dems were partial to causing riots and looting to celebrate stuff?

Isn't Chicago a Predominately Democrat city?

Remember what happened when the Bulls won the NBA Championship title?
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B04E1D71F38F932A05756C0A96E9582 60&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

[Seth]

fair enough, but hey, we have situations of people planning to go on cross country killing sprees if obama does get elected, i dunno about you but thats a scary thought, that people are planning to kill people based on skin color, if a president that they dont like gets elected. i wonder if only 2 people out of your entire nation had that thought, and they were caught allready.. i hope so, but i seriously doubt it.

[bgbill]

fair enough, but hey, we have situations of people planning to go on cross country killing sprees if obama does get elected, i dunno about you but thats a scary thought, that people are planning to kill people based on skin color, if a president that they dont like gets elected. i wonder if only 2 people out of your entire nation had that thought, and they were caught allready.. i hope so, but i seriously doubt it.

If you are talking about the homo looking white supremist from Tennesse, do you really think those dumbass punks have enough brains to even rob a 7-11 let alone get close enough to Barack or any other politician?

Anyone who thinks they have any chance of assasinating any President is a moron, especially if Barack is elected, the Secret Service will have even more security to protect Barack.

If Barack is Elected President, it would be a very sad day if anyone tried to assasinate him, I have faith in the Secret service protecting the president.

[Seth]

its not the president i worry about getting killed, we all know that Obama is going to be a well protected individual, but what about that black kid walking down the street.. they were planning to kill a bunch of them ya know.

[bgbill]

its not the president i worry about getting killed, we all know that Obama is going to be a well protected individual, but what about that black kid walking down the street.. they were planning to kill a bunch of them ya know.

What about anyone who gets killed if Obama does or does not get elected?

[jackpine savage]

What about anyone who gets killed if Obama does or does not get elected?

Right now you are just speculating. Who are you are you worried about? Are you afraid Bill McIntyre might decide to burn down the local Applebees in protest of a lost election?

[Seth]

that i worry about also, and its sad that in this day and age, with everyone claiming to be so educated, that people still have to worry about these things.. goes to show how advanced we really are.

[bgbill]

Right now you are just speculating. Who are you are you worried about? Are you afraid Bill McIntyre might decide to burn down the local Applebees in protest of a lost election?

I am not worried about my safety.

I think I can can vouch for Bill McIntyre not burning anything down.

Billy Mac may try to take his frustration out on a White Seabass though.:D

[Bill McIntyre]

On DL Hugley's news show on CNN i think? he had Al Sharpton and they both admitted being nervous about how "they" might steal this election from black america. It will get ugly if McCain wins. The mindset is already that if Obama doesnt win, the whites MUST have stole the election b/c of race.

I won't think that, but I might have a strong suspicion that Republicans stole it just as they did when the Democratic opponent was white. All these attempts to purge people from the voter lists because they left out a middle initial or some election official made a typo entering the data, send letters saying that if they ever got a traffic ticket they might be arrested if they show up at the polls, etc. are often directed at minority voters simply because the Repubs are afraid they will vote Democratic, but it has nothing to do with Obama being black. Its just that he is the Democratic candidate.

I really do hope that exit polls in Ohio roughly coincide with the official vote this time. If McCain wins, I can live with that as long as it looks like we had a fair election.

[FOWLER267]

its not the president i worry about getting killed, we all know that Obama is going to be a well protected individual, but what about that black kid walking down the street.. they were planning to kill a bunch of them ya know.

Black on black violence is 100 times more deadly than any known threat from extremests. Gang viloence is the cause of a very high % of that.

Watched a show that said LA has 80,000 gang members. Not sure how many gangmembers comit murder but the ones they interviewed seemed pretty casual about it.

[IrieSpearo]

I'll admit it, I did change my vote to McCain because of what I've read on SB.


I dunno...:eek:...guess its beats taking advice from a plumber...

[jadairiii]

...that Republicans stole it just as they did when the Democratic opponent was white. .....

You're an idiot. Capitalizing on the incompetence of the elected Supervisors of Elections (mostly Democrats) and/or the incompetence of voters that don’t or cant follow simple directions does not equal a "stolen election".

There have been stolen elections in the past but none in the last 20 years.

John

[FOWLER267]

You're an idiot. Capitalizing on the incompetence of the elected Supervisors of Elections (mostly Democrats) and/or the incompetence of voters that don’t or cant follow simple directions does not equal a "stolen election".

There have been stolen elections in the past but none in the last 20 years.

John

I thought the movie "Recount" did a fair job of showing how BOTH sides lawyers did their jobs in Fl. The Republicans simply won the case period. Democrats were just as devious.

[Bill McIntyre]

You're an idiot.

Thanks.

Capitalizing on the incompetence of the elected Supervisors of Elections (mostly Democrats) and/or the incompetence of voters that don’t or cant follow simple directions does not equal a "stolen election".


What about Ohio, where the voting machines were made by Diebold, the CEO of Diebold promised to deliver Ohio for Bush, and then exit poll results were way out of normal relationship to the recorded vote?

And already in this election, early voters in West Virginia reported machines that flipped their Obama vote to McCain. Yes, I guess it could be just temporary glitch, but it doesn't raise the public comfort level with the system.

At least Christ had the honesty and balls to extend early voting hours in Florida. I understand that the McCain campaign was really upset with him over that. Or maybe it was just payback for passing him over for VP.

[jadairiii]

Thanks..

You're Welcome

What about Ohio, where the voting machines were made by Diebold, the CEO of Diebold promised to deliver Ohio for Bush, and then exit poll results were way out of normal relationship to the recorded vote?

And already in this election, early voters in West Virginia reported machines that flipped their Obama vote to McCain. Yes, I guess it could be just temporary glitch, but it doesn't raise the public comfort level with the system.

At least Christ had the honesty and balls to extend early voting hours in Florida. I understand that the McCain campaign was really upset with him over that. Or maybe it was just payback for passing him over for VP.

Do you also hear the black helicopters circling your home? I understand a tinfoil helmet works wonders.

BTW, early voting is merely a privilege, not a right. That point seems lost on a lot of Democrats.

John

[Bill McIntyre]

BTW, early voting is merely a privilege, not a right. That point seems lost on a lot of Democrats.

John

Wow, I guess I don't understand it. I thought it was a way to help more people of both parties get out and vote, while decreasing crowds on Nov. 4. I had no idea that trying to encourage voting and make it easier was a partisan Democratic thing. Brett and oto-gc have mentioned early voting. Did they screw up taking advantage of something that was only supposed to be for Democrats?

[Rinaldo]

How could whites steal the election? We're the majority. Blacks are 11% of this population! Hispanics are split decision, the wealthy and the Catholics vote republican, what are most hispanics.... Catholic. If every "White" person in this country voted it's their election to swing.

What you should be wondering is how 11% of which 6% can vote, can claim we could potentially steal an election? BTW, of that 6% who are of legal age how many vote? I'll tell you, less than 25%. So please. We wouldn't be stealing anything.

It's disgusting how we can still be speaking about Race. I wonder why we do... I think the great disparity in this country isn't race, it's maturity and discipline. It's easy to ask for equality, and then when you aren't making the grade bitch about it being a racial issue. It's all about how much you want it. Just ask the Cuban Americans who fled with nothing,that within one generation can live in $6 million dollar homes. Or the Italian immigrants that settled NY so many years ago. They worked together and made it.

Obama can lose this election because his campaign is all hype. Once you eliminate the campaign retoric and realize he can't pass 90% of what he says he will through congress or the Sentate you are left with all talk. McCain isn't asking to change America, he's looking to eliminate the recessionary spending that the government got us into.
When the government spends us into a deficit we borrow by selling government bonds which in turn raises interest rates. When interest rates go up it's difficult to get lending. It's a debt mentality we have to break. Someone needs to lead by example and the Whitehouse should certainly make an attempt.

[Seth]

are you saying that less than a 1/4 of the 6% of the black population in america are over 18?

[Bill McIntyre]

Rinaldo,

I'm not going to respond to all of your post because its mostly things we have discussed a million times before, but who said anything about whites stealing the election? I was expressing concern about Republicans stealing the election.

Or do you think Republicans and whites are synonymous?

[riplipper]

Rinaldo,

Or do you think Republicans and whites are synonymous?

Almost. Not trying to be a racist but I would guess republicans are in the high 90% range of being white. I would also guess that the voting blacks are in the high 90% range of voting democratic.

[deepdown]

It's disgusting how we can still be speaking about Race. I wonder why we do...

Dude, easy for you to say, you are white. It really stings when in this day and age they refuse to serve your wife a drink in a bar. When I asked why, the bartender pointed to a sign saying "management reserves the right to refuse service at their discretion" and gave me a dirty look. WTF!? She had the proper ID, was dressed appropriately, polite, but.... she's brown...


Until I started living with my wife, like you, I thought why are they always crying foul, race shouldn't be a big deal in this day and age. But then I started noticing both the subtle and in your face racism that is still very much alive in this country, just because you and I don't judge people by the color of their skin, doesn't mean there isn't a host of others that still do.

[CraigC]

Do they still ask what race you are when your children are registered in public schools? I've always thought that these type of questions continue to perpetuate the feeling of racial discrimination, starting at an early age (pre-school). I also believe that the hyphenation (nationality/religion/race -American) continues to add to the separation and bias.

I know it took me a very long time to over come the racial crap my father spewed everyday.

Craig

[Rinaldo]

Dude, easy for you to say, you are white. It really stings when in this day and age they refuse to serve your wife a drink in a bar. When I asked why, the bartender pointed to a sign saying "management reserves the right to refuse service at their discretion" and gave me a dirty look. WTF!? She had the proper ID, was dressed appropriately, polite, but.... she's brown...


Until I started living with my wife, like you, I thought why are they always crying foul, race shouldn't be a big deal in this day and age. But then I started noticing both the subtle and in your face racism that is still very much alive in this country, just because you and I don't judge people by the color of their skin, doesn't mean there isn't a host of others that still do.

I've never experienced a situation like that. Had I been confronted with such stupidity, well, let's just thank God I haven't.
I also speak coming from an incredibly multi-national community which is far more understanding than say, a city in a small town community with little if any racial differences. I've never seen a KKK rally in South Florida. I don't agree with Bigotry, though I understand it exists. I just couldn't bare to read that Sharpton made a comment that Whites would "Steal" an election.

Bill, I wasn't implying you had written those words.

[deepdown]

. I just couldn't bare to read that Sharpton made a comment that Whites would "Steal" an election.

That was RigDiver's interpretation of what he said, but he didn't use those words at all. I watched the show, and think they have a legitimate concern. At no point did he say whites are going to steal it from the blacks...

[jadairiii]

Wow, I guess I don't understand it. I thought it was a way to help more people of both parties get out and vote, while decreasing crowds on Nov. 4. I had no idea that trying to encourage voting and make it easier was a partisan Democratic thing. Brett and oto-gc have mentioned early voting. Did they screw up taking advantage of something that was only supposed to be for Democrats?

You are correct, you don’t understand it. Early voting is for conveyance only, yet as soon as it began the Democrats immediately started crying foul, not enough machines, long lines, bad hours, ect. It’s early voting folks, it was never designed to take the place of election day, but that is how the uninformed have seen it. Take advantage of it, but to cry when its not perfect. But the Democrats have been crying for so many years I dont think they know how to stop.

I can’t wait for Obama to win and see the faces of all those first time voters not get exactly what they were promised! Oh, that will be worth the price of admission. Wonder who they will blame then?


John

[Bill McIntyre]

I can’t wait for Obama to win and see the faces of all those first time voters not get exactly what they were promised! Oh, that will be worth the price of admission. Wonder who they will blame then?

John

IF he wins, I can hardly wait for all the conservatives to start bitching that he hasn't fixed everything in his first month in office. I don't expect him to immediately wave a wand and get us out of recession, bring all the troops home honorably, etc. It took too long to get where we are now, and neither candidate is going to be able to fix it. I'll just be happy with a change in approach and emphasis.

[zenspearo]

Dude, easy for you to say, you are white. It really stings when in this day and age they refuse to serve your wife a drink in a bar. When I asked why, the bartender pointed to a sign saying "management reserves the right to refuse service at their discretion" and gave me a dirty look. WTF!? She had the proper ID, was dressed appropriately, polite, but.... she's brown...


Until I started living with my wife, like you, I thought why are they always crying foul, race shouldn't be a big deal in this day and age. But then I started noticing both the subtle and in your face racism that is still very much alive in this country, just because you and I don't judge people by the color of their skin, doesn't mean there isn't a host of others that still do.

I used to live in NC and worked there as an engineer

Now I live in CA.

When I came back one time, a kid yelled out in a supermarket checkout line "Hey paw, look, it's a chinaman."

When I was working as an engineer at Research Triangle Park, a group of us windsurfers often went to the Outer Banks to camp and windsurf. We carpooled to make the driving easier, and a bunch of cars would follow one another after work Friday for the 3-4 hour drive.

One time, I had a white female windsurfer in my car, just by the luck of the carpool arrangement.

I was the middle car in a caravan of four cars, all traveling at the same speed and a cop went out of his way, weaved past my friends to pull my car over while letting the others go. He was very interested in knowing whether she was my girlfriend and it was getting a little "Deliverance" there for a minute (I though he was going to say "Squeal like pig, boy" but in front of a witness, I just got a speeding ticket and a snide remark that "you and your girlfriend be careful coming back this way, you hear?")

Fun stuff like that.

But I have to say that the friendships I made there have been enduring, even with a friend whose dad is extremely racist. I was his best man in his wedding against his whole family's vociferous protest. So may be in a few more generations...

[Bill McIntyre]

You are correct, you don’t understand it. Early voting is for conveyance only, yet as soon as it began the Democrats immediately started crying foul, not enough machines, long lines, bad hours, ect. It’s early voting folks, it was never designed to take the place of election day, but that is how the uninformed have seen it. Take advantage of it, but to cry when its not perfect. But the Democrats have been crying for so many years I dont think they know how to stop.


Its incredible how you spin things. I think people have right a to vote without spending hours in line. Many people have jobs, kids to pick up from hockey practice, etc. I also think they have a right to expect to vote before the poll closes and keeps them from voting. But I'm reading that with so much new registration, in many places there are just not enough polling places to accommodate voters. If government isn't willing or able to provide enough polling places to accommodate all the voters, then voters have a right to expect that they can get it done early. Its not a matter of crying- its a matter of getting to exercise my right to vote without undue obstacles thrown in my way.

But I suspect that you think that the bulk of the new registration is uneducated Democrats who are just looking for hand outs, so you really don't care if they get to vote. They don't deserve it.

[jadairiii]

Its incredible how you spin things. I think people have right a to vote without spending hours in line. Many people have jobs, kids to pick up from hockey practice, etc. I also think they have a right to expect to vote before the poll closes and keeps them from voting. But I'm reading that with so much new registration, in many places there are just not enough polling places to accommodate voters. If government isn't willing or able to provide enough polling places to accommodate all the voters, then voters have a right to expect that they can get it done early. Its not a matter of crying- its a matter of getting to exercise my right to vote without undue obstacles thrown in my way.

But I suspect that you think that the bulk of the new registration is uneducated Democrats who are just looking for hand outs, so you really don't care if they get to vote. They don't deserve it.

No spin, I see this type of mind set with a lot of folks when picking juries. Although please understand that I do not put you in this specific category, you served our country, you owe the USA nothing, but a lot of folks (that did not serve in the military) come in to jury service whining about the “time it takes” and the “inconvenience” of it all. I would say to every one of them, there are only two things your Government asks of you, vote (at that is not even required!) and jury service, just a slight inconvenience in an over all pretty easy existence. A few times I have totally lost it on a group of jurors for just being so obviously lazy it made me sick! So, so what that we have to wait in line for a few hours every 4 freaking years. Boo Hoo.

And I don’t believe the new registrants are uneducated, just uninformed, when I see the majority of the people the News is interviewing (democrat or GOP) as first time voters being over 30 years old, I really doubt that they have any clue at to what is really happening.


John

[zenspearo]

You are correct, you don’t understand it. Early voting is for conveyance only, yet as soon as it began the Democrats immediately started crying foul, not enough machines, long lines, bad hours, ect. It’s early voting folks, it was never designed to take the place of election day, but that is how the uninformed have seen it. Take advantage of it, but to cry when its not perfect. But the Democrats have been crying for so many years I dont think they know how to stop.

John

John,

What is so sacred about Election Day? It's not a constitutional requirement, as my foggy memory of con law could recall. There are no legal requirements that voting has to be done on Election Day, except by state-by-state legislation which tend to have been written in a bygone era.

States are free to enact their own voting laws and some states, such as Oregon, popularize vote-by-mail which entirely eliminates the notion of congestion and waiting on election day.

Why would this be a Democrat vs. Republican issue? If early voting increases participation (in the age where most work 50-60 hours/week, dual income families, etc.), wouldn't increased participation be the goal of democracy?

Wouldn't convenience be as welcomed for the older retirees, who tend to be more conservative as it is for the busy working families?

And why shouldn't people be able to complain if the system is inconvenient and ridiculously burdensome (waiting in line for 10-12 hours?) while more efficient voting paradigms exist?

[jadairiii]

John,

What is so sacred about Election Day? It's not a constitutional requirement, as my foggy memory of con law could recall. There are no legal requirements that voting has to be done on Election Day, except by state-by-state legislation which tend to have been written in a bygone era.

States are free to enact their own voting laws and some states, such as Oregon, popularize vote-by-mail which entirely eliminates the notion of congestion and waiting on election day.

Why would this be a Democrat vs. Republican issue? If early voting increases participation (in the age where most work 50-60 hours/week, dual income families, etc.), wouldn't increased participation be the goal of democracy?

Wouldn't convenience be as welcomed for the older retirees, who tend to be more conservative as it is for the busy working families?

And why shouldn't people be able to complain if the system is inconvenient and ridiculously burdensome (waiting in line for 10-12 hours?) while more efficient voting paradigms exist?


Nothing. Go back and read Bill's comments from 9:14 am, then follow Bill's and my posts. I think you miss the theme of our discussion.

But, if voters want to avoid lines, vote absentee. Problem solved. Dont have to be a Rhodes Scholar to figure that out. So why the complaints?

[Bill McIntyre]

California offers permanent absentee status, with a ballot mailed to me before every election. No excuse required. But I know that not all states allow that. Does Florida? If so, then that is obviously the way to go, but maybe someone that just registered wouldn't be able to set it up fast enough.

[jadairiii]

California offers permanent absentee status, with a ballot mailed to me before every election. No excuse required. But I know that not all states allow that. Does Florida? If so, then that is obviously the way to go, but maybe someone that just registered wouldn't be able to set it up fast enough.

I think here you have to request them each time. Send them in and then the Supervisor of Elections counts the Republican ones!:D

John

[bgbill]

Thanks.



What about Ohio, where the voting machines were made by Diebold, the CEO of Diebold promised to deliver Ohio for Bush, and then exit poll results were way out of normal relationship to the recorded vote?

And already in this election, early voters in West Virginia reported machines that flipped their Obama vote to McCain. Yes, I guess it could be just temporary glitch, but it doesn't raise the public comfort level with the system.

At least Christ had the honesty and balls to extend early voting hours in Florida. I understand that the McCain campaign was really upset with him over that. Or maybe it was just payback for passing him over for VP.

I wonder how many coal miners will be voting for Barack Hussein Obama?

Bill,

It is Crist, not Christ, I would think you would be smart enough to know the difference.

It is easy for Crist to extend the early voting, since the costs are paid by the county, not the state, he should have the state pay for the additional costs involved.

I managed to make it for early voting before Crist extended the hours, and my wife uses absentee ballot so I can make sure she votes correctly.;)

[Bill McIntyre]

I
It is Crist, not Christ, I would think you would be smart enough to know the difference.


Actuallly, I did know that, but it was a typo.

Or maybe it was because I'm been arguing with too many Cristians lately on the board.

[zenspearo]

Nothing. Go back and read Bill's comments from 9:14 am, then follow Bill's and my posts. I think you miss the theme of our discussion.

But, if voters want to avoid lines, vote absentee. Problem solved. Dont have to be a Rhodes Scholar to figure that out. So why the complaints?

Many states don't allow you to vote absentee unless there's a documented reason that satisfies very stringent requirements and you have to get your statement notarized.

South Carolina is one, from what I understand. My best friend lives there.

http://www.scdp.org/actioncenter/voting_in_south_carolina/absentee_voting/

Eligibility requirements:

Students, their spouses and dependents residing with them
Members of the Armed Forces, Merchant Marines, Red Cross, USO, government employees, their spouses and dependents residing with them
For reasons of employment will not be able to vote on election day
Physically disabled persons
Persons on vacation
Persons age 65 or older
Persons admitted to the hospital as emergency patients on day of election or at least four days prior to the election
Electors with a death or funeral in the family within 3 days before the election
Persons confined to a jail or pre-trial facility pending disposition of arrest or trial
Persons attending sick or physically disabled persons
Certified poll watchers and poll managers

[zenspearo]

I think here you have to request them each time. Send them in and then the Supervisor of Elections counts the Republican ones!:D

John

LMAO.

You made me laugh today. Awesome come back.

[Don B]

Dude, easy for you to say, you are white. It really stings when in this day and age they refuse to serve your wife a drink in a bar. When I asked why, the bartender pointed to a sign saying "management reserves the right to refuse service at their discretion" and gave me a dirty look. WTF!? She had the proper ID, was dressed appropriately, polite, but.... she's brown...


Until I started living with my wife, like you, I thought why are they always crying foul, race shouldn't be a big deal in this day and age. But then I started noticing both the subtle and in your face racism that is still very much alive in this country, just because you and I don't judge people by the color of their skin, doesn't mean there isn't a host of others that still do.

Dude where the f--k do you live? I mean I lived in south Florida in the early 80's with a immigrant wife, then through the caribbean, into central Fl, into the Carolina's and to Louisiana. Traveled through Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, with a foreign wife and a mixed son, and have "NEVER" had anything but a friendly reception. Now I did get some beef about mixing the white race from some people I worked with in North Carolina, But it was from a select few. America has welcomed my wife and son with open arms and lots of love.

[rigdvr]

That was RigDiver's interpretation of what he said, but he didn't use those words at all. I watched the show, and think they have a legitimate concern. At no point did he say whites are going to steal it from the blacks...

Get a transcript...DL Hugley said " I lay awake at night worrying hoy THEY might steal this elecetion from US." Al sharpton agreed.

[deepdown]

Get a transcript...DL Hugley said " I lay awake at night worrying hoy THEY might steal this elecetion from US." Al sharpton agreed.

So you interpreted us as blacks, not democrats... Thats fine... Barack isn't the nominee for the black party, but nominee for the democrats...

[ducksmith]

Dude where the f--k do you live? I mean I lived in south Florida in the early 80's with a immigrant wife, then through the caribbean, into central Fl, into the Carolina's and to Louisiana. Traveled through Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, with a foreign wife and a mixed son, and have "NEVER" had anything but a friendly reception. Now I did get some beef about mixing the white race from some people I worked with in North Carolina, But it was from a select few. America has welcomed my wife and son with open arms and lots of love.

Amen Don B...but you do have feel for him and his crappy encounters

[deepdown]

Dude where the f--k do you live? I mean I lived in south Florida in the early 80's with a immigrant wife, then through the caribbean, into central Fl, into the Carolina's and to Louisiana. Traveled through Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, with a foreign wife and a mixed son, and have "NEVER" had anything but a friendly reception. Now I did get some beef about mixing the white race from some people I worked with in North Carolina, But it was from a select few. America has welcomed my wife and son with open arms and lots of love.

The incident I mentioned happened in Naples, but I can give you plenty examples of other places where things have gotten tense. Especially visiting my sister in college in Western North Carolina, and on the road in Utah... There is was so overt, I couldn't wait the get out of dodge...

To be fair, I've also had some problems with aggression from black guys. Although those instances were mostly posturing and testing me, and we mostly ended up joking and and having a good time after the ice was broken...

[zenspearo]

The incident I mentioned happened in Naples, but I can give you plenty examples of other places where things have gotten tense. Especially visiting my sister in college in Western North Carolina, and on the road in Utah... There is was so overt, I couldn't wait the get out of dodge...

To be fair, I've also had some problems with aggression from black guys. Although those instances were mostly posturing and testing me, and we mostly ended up joking and and having a good time after the ice was broken...

Dude,

Western North Carolina.

My college friend (white guy) from NY parked his car at a trailhead near Boone and went off hiking for a few hours. When he returned, the car was torched.

NY license plate.

They hate EVERYBODY there. :eek:

[ducksmith]

lol ZEN! That is funny even though it really isn't funny at all

[Bill McIntyre]

Dude,

Western North Carolina.

My college friend (white guy) from NY parked his car at a trailhead near Boone and went off hiking for a few hours. When he returned, the car was torched.

NY license plate.

They hate EVERYBODY there. :eek:

They have quite a bit of hate "down east" too. As I've mentioned before, when we drove to the Raleigh-Durham area from Cherry Point, we would have to go through Wilson. At the city limits, we were greeted by a big billboard that said "Welcome to Wilson. This is KKK Country. Abolish Integration and Catholicism."

[deepdown]

Dude,

Western North Carolina.

My college friend (white guy) from NY parked his car at a trailhead near Boone and went off hiking for a few hours. When he returned, the car was torched.

NY license plate.

They hate EVERYBODY there. :eek:

Yeah, tell me about it. She went to school in Cullowhee, where they shot the bear cub and draped Obama signs around its neck. Such a shame, since it is a very beautiful part of the country, and I would have liked to explore it further.