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Noyo Jim
12-14-2008, 01:47 AM
F&G Commission Puts Abalone on the MLPA Cutting Block

RFA and SCAN have been lobbying for a change in the proposed MLPA regulations for the north central coast for several months – ever since the regulations were drafted in April. In particular, we cannot support the abalone closures at Fisk Mill Cove, Saunders Reef, Jenner and Sea Lion Cove.

Thanks to the Monterey Tritons, NorCal Dive Club and Dolphin Divers from Sacramento, there was a good turnout of abalone divers on Friday, at the Dec 12th California Fish & Game Commission meeting. There were enough people who showed up and gave us their speaking time to give a 1/2 hour presentation about the abalone issue. (Without that turnout, we would not have gotten the time.)

The Commission will put the issue of our requested changes on their agenda for the February meeting. So you get another opportunity to show up and voice your concerns!

You can watch the webcast of the meeting here:

mms://www.cal-span.org/calspan/Video_Files/CFG/CFG_08-12-12/CFG_08-12-12.wmv
If that link doesn't work, try this www.cal-span.org.


It begins with a discussion of the DFG's new automated licensing system, and then there is a discussion of the listing of the pacific fisher as endangered. Then about 9am they allowed us to begin our presentation.

I introduced the Recreational Fishing Alliance and the Sonoma County Abalone Network and described our contributions to combat poaching, educate divers about the regs, and so on. I gave them some background on the biology of abalone, about our fishery on the north coast, and its economic value to the local community. Then Milo Vukovich, President of SCAN, showed the Commissioners how the MLPA closures would result in an effort shift in the fishery – raising the landings at Ft. Ross from 37,000 a year up to 47,000 per year. Using graphs showing the relative landings around Pt. Arena and the area south of sea ranch, Milo explained that private property and steep cliffs create a situation where there are serious impact to the abalone fishery under the proposed MLPA closures on the north-central coast. I concluded our presentation with a request for a line change at the Stewarts Point Reserve, north to 38 degrees, 37.5 minutes, and to allow abalone diving at the conservation areas proposed for Sea Lion Cove, Saunders Reef and Jenner.

The following discussion by the Commissioners was the best they have had so far about the MPLA. Commissioner Jim Kellogg, a real friend to the hunters and fishermen of California, made a motion to include options for our changes in the proposed regulations. This set off a lively discussion about the timeline of the process, whether the Commission should just rubber stamp the proposals sent to them by the Blue Ribbon Task Force Commissioners Richard Rogers and Cindy Gustafson indicated that they would not be inclined to make any changes to the package the BRTF handed them.

Cindy Gustafson said that she did not want to upset any of the BRTF members and make changes. She worried about setting up a situation where every group comes forward with more changes. (So far, no one has, and they won't have data to back up their request, as in our presentation with the abalone punchcard data. President Rogers backed her up, and indicated that Kellogg's proposal would not get their support. Dan Richards tried as hard as he could to get the other commissioners to support options for the changes requested by the abalone divers, and they all agreed that there were several questions the DFG needed to answer. After consulting with their legal council, the Commission set an agenda item on their February meeting in Sacramento, to discuss the new information and decide then what they wanted to do.

Although we did not get the vote we requested, we came very close. The President of the Commission, Richard Rogers, had made it very difficult for us to get time at many Commission meetings over the past several months, even though the Commissioners had all agreed they wanted to hear from RFA and SCAN and that we would have time to present a powerpoint to them. Finally we were running out of time and decided to show up with a bunch of divers who donated their time to us and we got r done on Friday.

Thanks to Tino Bernazzani, Tom Krebs, Richard Sears, Fred Cochrane, Jerry Benbow, Eric Sabbe, and many others who showed up and donated their speaking time to us. Without these dedicated folks, showing up at 8:30 am at the Resources Building in Sacramento, we would have been toast.

Up 'til then, we had been denied at every turn, and it looked like there would not be much public discussion of the regulations before they were adopted, beyond the minimum required for keeping things legal.

We still have a couple of more shots at this, to convince the Commission to do the right thing for the abalone fishery and the resource.

Mark your calendars for February 4-5, when the F&G Commission meets in Sacramento. The MLPA will be on the agenda and we need a few more abalone divers to push this point home. Win or lose, this is a very important battle and divers are being specifically targeted for no good reason in the MLPA process.

Seacidal
12-14-2008, 02:05 AM
Well done Jim! My thanks and great appreciation to you and Milo and the other divers that showed up to graciously donate their comment period to allow your thorough presentation. The RFA and SCAN are working hard to effectively represent the interests of divers. Keep at it!

Chip

zenspearo
12-14-2008, 03:41 AM
Great job to Jim and the divers who showed up. We in Socal can learn from this.

Kelsea
12-14-2008, 04:00 AM
Thanks to the Monterey Tritons, NorCal Dive Club and Dolphin Divers from Sacramento, there was a good turnout of abalone divers on Friday, at the Dec 12th California Fish & Game Commission meeting. There were enough people who showed up and gave us their speaking time to give a 1/2 hour presentation about the abalone issue. (Without that turnout, we would not have gotten the time.)

Win or lose, this is a very important battle and divers are being specifically targeted for no good reason in the MLPA process.

Thank you for sharing this Jim and thank you to to divers up north. So, forgive me since I am new to all of this (am not sure of how it works for them to hear your case), is it that the more that show up the more time you get?

SpearMax
12-14-2008, 08:50 AM
Thanks to Tino Bernazzani, Tom Krebs, Richard Sears, Fred Cochrane, Jerry Benbow, Eric Sabbe, and many others who showed up and donated their speaking time to us. Without these dedicated folks, showing up at 8:30 am at the Resources Building in Sacramento, we would have been toast.

Good work divers for showing up and Jim for organizing and reporting! :thumps:

cmburch
12-14-2008, 08:54 AM
The public can comment on items on the agenda for local, city, state boards, councils and special commissions. Time is alloted for each speaker to comment about the agendized proposals, usually 5 or 10 min. A group can pick a spokesperson/speakers for their group to present their comments and pool their time. So if 6 speakers are given 10min each to comment on any of the agendized items, they can have 1 or 2 spokespersons give a 1 hour presentation of their views on any of the proposals on the agenda.

thereefgeek
12-14-2008, 10:05 AM
Jim, thanks again for your dedication. I was happy to take the day off work to come down and I'm glad Josh, Joe, Tino, Eric, Greg & Vanessa and others did as well. I was impressed with the Commissions flexibility on allowing over 30 minutes for the presentation and I'm betting they wouldn't have given that much time if we all hadn't filled out the cards.

After hearing you and Milo speak and watching the well documented, well organized presentation, it was frustrating for me to sit through a bunch of kids up there earning college credit for telling the commision how much they love the environment and want to protect it, even though they have no idea what it is they're protecting, or from what they are protecting it. I wonder how many pairs of night vision goggles the Ocean Conservancy has purchased for enforcement efforts? Zero?

Tino Bernazzani
12-14-2008, 10:43 AM
Thank you to everyone that took the time to attend the meeting.
It was great to have so many familiar faces and friends there who showed that they cared enough to be a part of it, and not just complain about it online.
Those that have never been to a meeting had a chance to see just how much of an uphill battle we really have. As well as the misinformation that is spread under the shield of "Protecting the Resource".
Milo and Jim gave a great presentation that seemed to open some of their eyes to what we have been trying to say all along.

It was so funny though to see the few people who spoke during the public comment period and how truly detached they are from the environment let alone the resource at hand.
One guy (Flounder guy) explained that he supported the closures because when he was young some of his best experiences with his dad were out fishing????
Yes this jackass actually got up and supported more fishing closures because he thinks that these closures will preserve the resource better?
A woman speaker was asked by the commission, in her opinion, what the largest problem was when dealing with the decline in the abalone population? And she went on to say that she was a diver and that helped her understand how special the resource is and how it needs to be protected.
Yes, she could not answer the question because she knew nothing about the true state of the abalone population or the history of the fishery.

The best part was when the meeting was done and most of us headed over to Mikuni Sushi to blow off some steam.
Had a few beers and some excellent grub before making our way over to the Freedive Shop to talk gear and pick up some supplies.
Big Thanks Eric Sabbe and Josh Gregory for buying the group lunch, that was awesome.
Also thanks for meeting me at my house at 7am, unloading my truck, paying for gas and being there with me.
It meant a lot and was my main deterrent for just staying in bed sick all day.:thumps:

bigeyedave
12-14-2008, 11:20 PM
A BIG thanks to all. I'm sorry I couldn't be there. I will definately be there in Feb.
Dave

Otis Driftwood
12-15-2008, 12:13 AM
Tino, you mean the "fisherman" that caught a flounder as big as his boat?

SeaZen
12-15-2008, 05:09 PM
Jim,
Great job on your presentation, the fishery network here in the south, had some interesting takes on the commissions discussion and the potential outcome down the road.
I truely hope the divers that attended can see the impact that just showing up can have on the commission. It also helps these divers become better spokespersons about the process and how to work it towards more favorable results for divers and fishers alike. Not to mention that we still need more effort in educating the average public on the excellant fishing and diving we have, its far from a lifeless ocean out there!

Unfortunatly many of the So.Cal divers are still just whining away on chat sites, and complaining about having the process forced "up"on them. Either the divers down here think their representatives in this process are doing a great job and have 100% confidence/agreement in/with us; or... they are waiting for a more convenient time to get involved. Oh well, at least they filled out there Ecotrust surveys...(less than 0.001% of socal users).
Sorry for the down beat, just feeling a little alone as I charge through email dialogues and a few "scientific reports", but it was very encouraging to read the effect of your presentation. Keep em honest! It not just the best avaliable science that needs to be used but the best avaliable common scense as well!

Eric Kett
MLPA - SCRSG