What is your biggest fish with ~110 gun???

[steepNdeep]

I'm debating about what size gun to buy and think 110 is a good all-rounder... I'm sure that I'll end up buying a bigger blue water gun later. What have you shot with your 110? Pics are good! :D

[Spearo1]

I was with a friend when he shot a 90+lb grouper in Mex with a 110... pretty nuts.. bent the shaft to hell. He actually brought that gun specifically to target smaller grouper because you can swing the gun around faster.... then his first dive he sees a huge grouper.

[Chris Oak]

You can shoot anything with any size gun on a lucky day, but losing fish because you are consistently hunting game that is too big for your gun all the time is unethical.

That being said I've taken yellowtail with my 110 but they were small schoolies about 12-15 lbs or so. The 110 is my favorite local beach dive gun.

[Spearo1]

Good point.

[seawolf]

In some instances, it's not really the size of the gun that matters as is shot placement for taking big fish. I've taken a 50 lb white seabass with a 90cm eurogun. However, this was at virtually point blank range where shot placement was easy enough. Range and power are two important aspects of your gun for those times when fish keep their distance from you. That's when you might think about using a longer gun. Some would argue that the euroshaft is too light to get sufficient penetration into bigger fish and would tell you to upgrade to a bluewater gun with a heavier shaft and more band power. What I'm trying to get at here is that there are different schools of thought. While anything is possible, and yes you can take big fish with a eurogun, your success of landing speared fish may be increased with the use of a bluewater gun with a heavier shaft and sliptip.

[Superfrog]

My baby for shoredives is my Seatec 110 with single flopper.

Lost a medium/good size WSB this season by playing the floatline wrong, fish wasn't tied up, and I pulled hard. Fish goes nuts, I don't let any slack out..........boom- gone.

Landed everything since, but you can't just no-brainer it, it has to be played.

That being said, I do have a dedicated WSB gun equipped with a slip tip, but it is only applicable in somewhat decent vis, so I still rely on my 110 a lot.

Just to add- The 110 length (150cm spear length is typical) is a sweetheart size. A 75cm is an entirely different gun, and a 120 is yet another. A few centimeters is a big deal actually (in my opinion).

[So-Cal Spearo]

I've taken a 50 lb white seabass with a 90cm eurogun.
:lol: SUUUUURE Tyson ;)

I have shot everything from rockfish to yellowtail with a 110cm, its a perfect length for socal in general.
Its all just comes down to what your range your confident at shooting the specific species of fish in the given situation.

[sheepshead]

Fish in my avatar was shot with a RA 110.

[apnea_beast]

you can kill anything with a 110 if you get close enough. when i had my aimrite 110 i killed fish at the end of two wraps. i think that was 14'. for a big fish you wouldn't want to be much more than 5 or 6' away though. i like to be able to kill anything i see so now i mainly use a 140cm if the viz is over 20', a 120cm if its a little less and a 100cm if its really bad. i've killed fish with a 140 in 5' viz though. i'd say if you want to hunt big fish and you usually have better than 15' viz then you'll want at least a 120cm.

[Polystigma]

Shoot mostly calicos with my 110cm, but I do get a few YT during the summer as well. Mostly schoolies in the 12-20lb range.

[mnguy]

Like a 4 pound sandie, but then again I never use it.

That and I can't aim for shit. Doesn't aim as naturally, to me, as a polespear. That and I'm nearsighted so aiming at things, even with the underwater enhancement, isn't as easy for me. Unfortunately I can't find amber lenses for my AQA with prescriptions.

[Erik Sun]

Craig (pictured) is a good diver, top 6 in SA and on the "A" Competition team, so he has good skills to get close to fish, hunting in 20-35 meters regularly. Here is a stringer of fish from small to big shot with a 90cm.

You should be able to cover a lot of bases with your choice of length there 110cm off Southern California.
Maybe even a 100 or 105cm for shorediving depending on your preference of maneuverability vs. range.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb275/sumoradivetools/90cm_rabitech_stealth_craig_stringe.jpg

His New south african tropical yellowtail record (24kgs) was shot with a 110cm.
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb275/sumoradivetools/craig1.jpg


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http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb275/sumoradivetools/110_stealth_wahoo.jpg

Cheers,

Erik

[rojodiablo]

I agree that a gun that is short is not a problem, but just be sure you are closing the gap to ensure good shot placement. A gun that shoots laser-straight is useless if you don't at least put the bullet in far enough to hold the fish until you can finish the job. If I am selling you on big fish with small guns, then check these out with a Riffe euro 90cm. Good shot placement, and close firing distance made the difference. As it was, the grouper got off, and it took 45 minutes to fing him and finish the job. Cost me 2 shafts doing it.:rolleyes:
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[phlip]

The fish in my avatar was shot with a 110 ra i was not expecting to shoot a fish of that size but was given the perfect 10ft shot.and even with that it was a challenge.

[amasterp1322]

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Hey even Austin got the memo to stand on one leg. :D:lol:

[steepNdeep]

Right on, NIICE fish boys! Those are impressive fish - bigger than I was expecting... Some serious snipers here. I figured ~40 lbs. :cool:

Good point Seawolf.

You can shoot anything with any size gun on a lucky day, but losing fish because you are consistently hunting game that is too big for your gun all the time is unethical.

Always a preacher somewhere...:rolleyes: Í'm a bowhunter and have shot animals weighing hundreds of pounds that bite back... With no float line, the only shots that count are STONE shots... thx.

[fuzz]

Always a preacher somewhere...:rolleyes: Í'm a bowhunter and have shot animals weighing hundreds of pounds that bite back... With no float line, the only shots that count are STONE shots... thx.

All Chris was doing was interjecting some good common sense and encouraging responsible diving...

Shame on you Chris! :mad:

[patrick]

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[pablo]

I always do everything my rice crispies tell me to do..

[fin]

110 is my go to gun for coastal diving.

[AquaHunter]

I use 110 cm Rob Allen and still shoot deadly with it. I also shot 127 lbs Yellowfin tuna with it.

[campbellc0321]

That's a cool pic Ray.

[AlexF]

I use a 115cm Omer Master America gun and have shot a lot of very big fish. The largest has been a yellow fin tuna of 75 Kilos (165#), then a yellowtail of 38 Kilos (84#), another tuna of 30 and 20 Kilos (66# & 44#), some wahoo, dorado, cubera snaper and so on.

I love this gun and believe it's a good all around size for any type of fish. I don't use it for tuna any longer as a bigger tuna gun works much better for the large fish, but pretty much use it for everything else.

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[Chris Oak]

All Chris was doing was interjecting some good common sense and encouraging responsible diving...

Shame on you Chris! :mad:

Holy shit what was I thinking :p I blame myself.

I once shot a swallow carrying a coconut by the husks with my 110 :thumps:

[Superfrog]

Always a preacher somewhere...:rolleyes: Í'm a bowhunter and have shot animals weighing hundreds of pounds that bite back... With no float line, the only shots that count are STONE shots... thx.




Fish bite back.

[David Deman]

I once shot a swallow carrying a coconut by the husks with my 110 :thumps:

Was it an African or European swallow...?

[Nate Baker]

Holy shit what was I thinking :p I blame myself.

I once shot a swallow carrying a coconut by the husks with my 110 :thumps:

An African swallow?

steepNdeep, Chris' answer was pretty spot on if a little brief. Your original question was overly simplistic and akin to asking, "Where are the biggest fish in California?"

[Chris Oak]

Not to boast but it was actually two swallows carrying the coconut together...

[steepNdeep]

I once shot a swallow carrying a coconut by the husks with my 110 :thumps:... Not to boast but it was actually two swallows carrying the coconut together...

Hmmm.... boast about "two swallows... coconuts"... sounds like a 'west side' thing. Whatever makes you happy! ;)

Sorry, I just get sick of preaching from years on hunting forums. C-level's comment just reminded me of past discussions, of which I've been on both sides.

My question was simply what was the capability of a 110 cm gun based on experience. I definitely understand shot placement and knowing your limitations from years of tracking animals after the shot.

Fish bite back.

Yeah, it keeps things interesting and levels the field a bit! :cool:

[patrick]

Not to boast but it was actually two swallows carrying the coconut together...
so common sense and some critical thinking would dictate these are european swallows. a lone african swallow can carry a coconut, and making the assumption that youve never been to africa, you would not have the chance to shoot a non migratory bird.

[Bill McIntyre]

My question was simply what was the capability of a 110 cm gun based on experience. I definitely understand shot placement and knowing your limitations from years of tracking animals after the shot.


Then Nate's answer was appropriate.

steepNdeep, Chris' answer was pretty spot on if a little brief. Your original question was overly simplistic and akin to asking, "Where are the biggest fish in California?"

If you asked enough people, you could probably find someone who killed a Cape Buffalo with a 22, but it doesn't mean that a 22 is the best choice.

[steepNdeep]

Aqua - Nice fish & squid! I've never seen squid shot. What was that like?

Alex - Wow! Yellowfin on a 110 - never thought of that? What was the fight like? Did you bend any spears?

[patrick]

Then Nate's answer was appropriate.



If you asked enough people, you could probably find someone who killed a Cape Buffalo with a 22, but it doesn't mean that a 22 is the best choice.
:yup:
i read in a hunting magazine about a woman killing a kodiak bear with a 22 magnum handgun when she was attacked. apparently the small bullet was able to punch thru the thick skull of the bear and hit the brain.
but i think i'll stick with my trusty .308 in bear country....

[AlexF]

Alex - Wow! Yellowfin on a 110 - never thought of that? What was the fight like? Did you bend any spears?

I shot those 3 tuna in 2005 so information might not be very precise about shaft bending but I believe the 30 and 20Kg didn't bend the 8mm shaft I was using but the 75Kg tuna did bend it.

The strongest fight was on the 30Kg fish that was shot just over the anal fin, you can see the shot in the picture. This was actually the first time I saw a tuna underwater and it was my first attempt at spering one. I thought it was only around 5 kilos and I shot it mid body. It was a little bigger and further away than I thought. The 75 kilo tuna I guess was badly hurt from the spear and never swam down. It took me skiing for about 1500 feet, but I never let go of the buoys. It must have taken me 30 to 40 minutes to land.

I now shoot a 3/8" shaft and tunas can easily bend them if they stick out too much out of the body. It really doesn't matter if you have a slip tip because the shaft is bent before the shaft is pulled and happens with the water friction. I now like to shoot tunas from behind or the side to avoid bent shafts.

[Chris Oak]

so common sense and some critical thinking would dictate these are european swallows. a lone african swallow can carry a coconut, and making the assumption that youve never been to africa, you would not have the chance to shoot a non migratory bird.

Perhaps it was three swallows then. European swallows lets say. Would it not be possible for the coconut husk to become intertwined in a way that several mating birds might get tangled in them and fly away with it if it were a small coconut?

[steepNdeep]

:yup:
i read in a hunting magazine about a woman killing a kodiak bear with a 22 magnum handgun when she was attacked. apparently the small bullet was able to punch thru the thick skull of the bear and hit the brain.
but i think i'll stick with my trusty .308 in bear country....

The world record grizz was shot by a little old indian woman who shot it off her back porch with a .22 LR open sights. She put a 2" group of about 10 shots just below his ear.

I wouldn't recommend it though. A buddy shot a grizz across from our camp at 300 yards with a .338. First shot double lunged it (dead on it's feet) and the rest were in the rings, but it kept mowing down 6" alders for ~a minute. Good thing it didn't know where the shots were coming from... :eek:

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