JBL International

[JBL Hunter]

We are looking for your photos with your JBL speargun and your prize fish to put on our website. Please send to jbl@jblspearguns.com.

It is no longer a rumor. The JBL "M-6" trigger mech will be in all of our new one piece wood gun design. The new guns will be shipping by the end of February. I will submit photos soon. Also the "Sea Leaf Camo" wetsuit available in 3mm and 5mm Yamamoto material will be shipping as well.
Thanks for shooting JBL spearguns!

[Mobile Diver]

You have a PM.

[SpearMax]

It is no longer a rumor. The JBL "M-6" trigger mech will be in all of our new one piece wood gun design. The new guns will be shipping by the end of February. I will submit photos soon. Also the "Sea Leaf Camo" wetsuit available in 3mm and 5mm Yamamoto material will be shipping as well.
Thanks for shooting JBL spearguns!

Great news! Welcome to Spearboard!

[jfjf]

We are looking for your photos with your JBL speargun and your prize fish to put on our website. Please send to jbl@jblspearguns.com.

It is no longer a rumor. The JBL "M-6" trigger mech will be in all of our new one piece wood gun design. The new guns will be shipping by the end of February. I will submit photos soon. Also the "Sea Leaf Camo" wetsuit available in 3mm and 5mm Yamamoto material will be shipping as well.
Thanks for shooting JBL spearguns!

Is it going to be used in the same plastic handle?

[Dreamin To Sea]

We are looking for your photos with your JBL speargun and your prize fish to put on our website. Please send to jbl@jblspearguns.com.

It is no longer a rumor. The JBL "M-6" trigger mech will be in all of our new one piece wood gun design. The new guns will be shipping by the end of February. I will submit photos soon. Also the "Sea Leaf Camo" wetsuit available in 3mm and 5mm Yamamoto material will be shipping as well.
Thanks for shooting JBL spearguns!


I am concerned in that i purchased a new JBL 53"Woody from one of your dealers"My ScubaShop.Com.The Gun is due to arrive 1/10/09.My concern is what i have been reading about the down play on the JBL'S as a whole,and as i mentioned.It has me concerned.Along with all this negative feedback.I have been reading also about the problems with the trigger mech.Now come to find out that i have the old trigger mech with all it's associated problems.And i have not even received the gun.Now i read your thread and you have confirmed the old trigger has been replaced with the "M-6"
I want to replace the old trigger mech with the new if that is possible,or send the whole gun back to the dealer to resolve this problem.I will email your web site as well as call 1/8/09
Your attention in this matter would be greatly appreciated

[100days-a-year]

Great first post:thumps:

[apneadreams]

:lol: tear em a new one!

[JBL Hunter]

Is it going to be used in the same plastic handle?

No, it is a one piece wood gun with a lowered molded plastic handle.

[fineout]

pics of the internals? or pics of the gun overall?

[StickODynamite!]

I am concerned in that i purchased a new JBL 53"Woody from one of your dealers"My ScubaShop.Com.The Gun is due to arrive 1/10/09.My concern is what i have been reading about the down play on the JBL'S as a whole,and as i mentioned.It has me concerned.Along with all this negative feedback.I have been reading also about the problems with the trigger mech.Now come to find out that i have the old trigger mech with all it's associated problems.And i have not even received the gun.Now i read your thread and you have confirmed the old trigger has been replaced with the "M-6"
I want to replace the old trigger mech with the new if that is possible,or send the whole gun back to the dealer to resolve this problem.I will email your web site as well as call 1/8/09
Your attention in this matter would be greatly appreciated

Dreamin, I heard you LOUD and Clear Brother. Bought the woody magnum and had problems with my trigger after 6 months, as what "I" call the locking plate, would jam in a closed position and not allow the spear to lock. Squeezing and releasing the trigger quickly, would reset it and resume normal use. Took an extra couple seconds at most. Stock triple bands by the way.

Headed out with jfjf on the Radical for a commerical trip and started putting a lot more shots through the gun and if finally just locked up!

I had to surface "properly" and fix the gun... while everyone was gathered round the gun a small spring was (accidently) jettisoned overboard. jfjf was nice enough to let me use his ultimate speargun which was very dependable for the remainder of the trip.

Rather than lighting a funeral pyre for the JBL stickwood, I considered some other options and in the end found two $0.15 SS washers solved the issue better than the day I bought the gun.

Took it back out on the Radical for a middle grounds trip and it shot beautifully. Since the fix and a 1/2 dozen add'l outings and more recently shooting 2 x 5/8" bands. It's dependable, to a point... "still a plastic frame" stress will weaken and deform the pin points in the trigger mech long before a metal mech will.

This was my first gun it did drop the ball on me several times, but overall I did learn more regarding the inner workings of a simple trigger mech. A metal trig mech frame will be a min. req. for me in the future.

JBL customer service is more than lacking and I will not spend time or money contacting them in the future.

*** JBL Hunter please note should I find "my fix" being used on new, warranty work or future JBL guns, I will expect a discussed and fair compensation. PM me if there's any questions. ***

[Seacidal]

New trigger mech and yamamoto camo suits? Sounds like a great round of new products for JBL.

Are there any specs on the new trigger mechanism? Is it intended for "local" game, or perhaps larger targets? Looking forward to learning more as it becomes available.

Thanks for the update.
Chip

[ocean_hunter]

I wanna see these new jbls

I've had so many problems with there guns .

And absolutely horrible customer service.

[Mobile Diver]

I want to say that my post (#2) about a PM was a customer service question that was answered promptly (about a slip tip).

I have not owned a JBL, but they are used extensively in Louisiana on the oil rigs. Can't be all bad.

Trashing this guy first thing is not the best way to get your service problems addressed.

[jfjf]

....while everyone was gathered round the gun a small spring was (accidently) jettisoned overboard. jfjf was nice enough to let me use his ultimate speargun ***

That was only because I was holding the spring when it was "jettisoned" :lol::lol::lol:

I was actually amazed that you could ditch a part (the spring) throw a few washers in there; and restore full function for an indefinite period. But then again, I never understood how surgeons cut parts out of a person's body and make it work better either!

[StickODynamite!]

I want to say that my post (#2) about a PM was a customer service question that was answered promptly (about a slip tip).

I have not owned a JBL, but they are used extensively in Louisiana on the oil rigs. Can't be all bad.

Trashing this guy first thing is not the best way to get your service problems addressed.

If he's the JBL Salesman he knows exactly what he's getting himself into...posting on Spearboard. Sales demands you handle issues customers will raise. JBL has acted very much like GM and Chrysler, ignoring cust. svc and quality. At this point my gun is doing what it should have from day one (once I made my own fix).

I do hope JBL Hunter sees an opportunity and believes he can change minds. Spearboard is a fairly tight group with many regulars and lurkers (me). Change a few minds over 6 months to a year, that is progress, but it will come with presenting a solid product, delivering on service and taking on issues. If JBL has made a committement to improve, I'm originally from MO, "Show Me" and everyone else.

[StickODynamite!]

That was only because I was holding the spring when it was "jettisoned" :lol::lol::lol:

I was actually amazed that you could ditch a part (the spring) throw a few washers in there; and restore full function for an indefinite period. But then again, I never understood how surgeons cut parts out of a person's body and make it work better either!

Jim, that spring had its mind set for freedom, it was pretty funny catching a glimpse of it clearing the cooler. Thanks for bringing a backup that trip though.

[JBL Hunter]

If he's the JBL Salesman he knows exactly what he's getting himself into...posting on Spearboard. Sales demands you handle issues customers will raise. JBL has acted very much like GM and Chrysler, ignoring cust. svc and quality. At this point my gun is doing what it should have from day one (once I made my own fix).

I do hope JBL Hunter sees an opportunity and believes he can change minds. Spearboard is a fairly tight group with many regulars and lurkers (me). Change a few minds over 6 months to a year, that is progress, but it will come with presenting a solid product, delivering on service and taking on issues. If JBL has made a committement to improve, I'm originally from MO, "Show Me" and everyone else.

JBL has been manufacturing spearguns for over 35 years now. When the company started the only size bands that were used were 1/2 inch bands. Todays guns are obviously alot more powerful using 3 and sometimes more 5/8 inch bands. We needed a trigger mech that can with stand the resistance of the overbanding. With the help of Bill Kitto and a few others the "M-6" trigger mech will handle the power. Not to mention be able to take other competitors shafts. Yes, not only JBL shafts but others as well. The trigger mech with stood testing up to 16 bands. That is equivalent to about 2500 pounds of pressure with a 5 pound trigger pull. 17/4 hardened 1/4in stainless steel, Its bomb proof! As I had stated before we expect to be shipping the new one piece design wood gun with the "M-6" trigger mech at the end of Feb. As we know with new items it could roll into March but the point is it will be available. This is not a replacement to any item that is in our catalog however it is a product that is needed in this market to stay up with the changing of needs of our customers. We feel this is a new "innovative" design and will do very well in the retail market. The "M-6 Stick" is merely a added new product to our catalog as is the new wetsuits, masks, snorkels and fins.
I hear alot complaining about customer service.... I know the factory works very hard to take care of each and every customer service issue. If there has been a problem in the past maybe some need to look past that and realize things can change and be brought up to speed. I deal with customers all the time that tell me JBL has truley made a turn around for the best. We have very loyal customers out there that know JBL spearguns sell very well in there stores and bottom line shoot fish and continue to shoot fish will for many more years. Thats what this is about can our guns shoot fish! I know they can, i use one. And there are plenty of you out there that know they can and do kill fish.

[JBL Hunter]

New trigger mech and yamamoto camo suits? Sounds like a great round of new products for JBL.

Are there any specs on the new trigger mechanism? Is it intended for "local" game, or perhaps larger targets? Looking forward to learning more as it becomes available.

Thanks for the update.
Chip

Yes we are excited about the new products. The new design will be for a variety of shooting. The real big game gun comes out next year. "Hybrid" more info will be on the way.

[JBL Hunter]

pics of the internals? or pics of the gun overall?
Pix will be available soon...

[Dreamin To Sea]

Just a follow up.JBL53"Woody came in as planned.It was difficult not to open the shipment as i was like a kid with a new toy.But did not!Refused package and sent back to Dealer(my scubashop.com)I have been working with Scott from scubashop and am awaiting a refund.It was listed on ebay and came with a 7day return policy.As far as JBL Hunter,he returned my query with a return phone call.Very nice individual,and gave me the skinny
on the New improvements to the gun that i purchased that did not have the upgrade.He raved about the new one piece stock as well as new trigger mech.From what i can tell
it is an improvement that JBL had to do in order to maintain quality sales.I am pleased that JBL took this route,but it was unfortunate it was after the fact after i made the purchase."Thank God" it came with a return policy.Now to sea if myscubashop"Scott"
follows through with a full refund,and does not dick me around.
Thanks fellow Spearos for all your advice!
Dreamin To Sea
Bill

[Capt.Gene]

JBL's Explorer series guns have proven very durable when banded with 1/2 or even 9/16 bands. They do well what they were designed to do.
For a right handed shooter the safety works like every safety should work. Not an after thought in the design.
For many years NONE of the guns we used had reliable triggers if you wanted to power up the guns much beyond the way they came from the factory. I have changed out as many Sea Hornet and Biller triggers as I have JBL's. If you are reading this thread and thinking trigger wear and failure are a problem unique to JBL, they are not.
Competion between gun builders is a great thing! It thins the herd and brings better products to market.
I think JBL is moving rapidly in the right direction.They wouldn't be supporting our spearfishing tournament prize tables or be here taking this kind of heat if they didn't believe in the improvement of their product. beer:

[ryddragyn]

I checked out the JBL prototypes at the Neptunes' manufacturers' meeting back in November. Everyone in the room was very positive about what they saw. I believe Mori has been helping with the new guns' development. The hybrid model was really impressive. Seeing the JBL logo on the side of it caused a lot of initial surprise.

The M-6 stick is what the woody guns should have always been, IMHO. Basic, no-nonsense, one piece wood and metal tools.

[Kyle Parker]

release date and pics of the hybrid?

[FishHunter]

Good article about the new M6 trigger by "Bill Kitto" in the most recent HSD. Seems like JBL is taking a step up in quality. :thumps:

My first gun was a JBL Super Carbine. I was so stoked when I got it. :D

[jupiterlocal]

Any news on the new and improved JBLs?

[jupiterlocal]

I guess this is a dead issue. Thats too bad.

[Seacidal]

I don't think it's a dead issue. More likely awaiting a designated time for release. This is common practice.

[CMOST]

JBL Hunter,

Will this new handle assembly fit my new Sawed Off Woody Magnum? Just bought it and am having issues already. Seems to not lock the spear at times and safety doesn't work all the time. That's not good!! I have shot it on one dive to date. So as you can see it's new!!

[ocean_hunter]

So...

[ScottZeagle]

I don't think it's a dead issue. More likely awaiting a designated time for release. This is common practice.

Indeed. It takes time and patience to get a new product to market, and one little thing can set you back.

Wouldn't you guys rather wait a little longer, and get a product that is correct than to have a manufacturer rush something out the door and have problems with it?

Patience, grasshoppers.

:thumps:

[jupiterlocal]

Im anxious but patient. An update would be awesome. I have had luck with jbls but its time to upgrade.

[Kyle Parker]

show me a picture!!! jbl if you guys would release this before summer initial sales would pbe very high as opposed to a fall/winter release just keep that in mind. it would pay off dramatically if you could get this thing done before summer.

[JBL Hunter]

JBL Hunter,

Will this new handle assembly fit my new Sawed Off Woody Magnum? Just bought it and am having issues already. Seems to not lock the spear at times and safety doesn't work all the time. That's not good!! I have shot it on one dive to date. So as you can see it's new!!
CMOST,
Sorry for the late reply, I have contacted corporate about this issue and am requesting you to return it to the dive shop you bought it from for a RA#. They will contact JBL Corporate for RA# instructions. As far as the new gun, the new handle will not fit due to the redesign. The new woody's are still on the way. Lots goes into new products and we really don't want to rush this one.

[JBL Hunter]

These are the prototypes of the new gun. As I stated before we do not want to rush the release.

The gun will come in 3 sizes. 42-53-63 inches.
The M-6 trigger mech will also be able to take Riffe shafts. Biller and Sea Hornet shafts as well with a slight mod.
The new Wood guns are do out very soon. The wood guns are going to retail at $260-$360.
I also have attached the new wetsuits, booties and gloves.

98602

98603


98605 98608

98604 98607

[IrieSpearo]

Looks great, any chance it will come euro?

[ocean_hunter]

Shaweeeeet

[ryddragyn]

Looks great -especially the wetsuit pattern! Will the jacket and farmer john be available separately for people with weird sizing requirements?

On the guns, I notice the shaft is notched, and there is a contact for a slide ring. Are these guns going to be closed muzzle, or is that just a dummy shaft for the prototype?

The handle looks to be the same as the colt 1911's, known better to spearos as the wong/aimrite handle. Is that the final handle? Not that there's anything wrong with that, just that the gun looks similar to a Wong MGS.

[JBL Hunter]

Looks great, any chance it will come euro?
Euro and hybrid in the works as we speak.

[JBL Hunter]

Looks great -especially the wetsuit pattern! Will the jacket and farmer john be available separately for people with weird sizing requirements?

On the guns, I notice the shaft is notched, and there is a contact for a slide ring. Are these guns going to be closed muzzle, or is that just a dummy shaft for the prototype?

The handle looks to be the same as the colt 1911's, known better to spearos as the wong/aimrite handle. Is that the final handle? Not that there's anything wrong with that, just that the gun looks similar to a Wong MGS.
The wetsuit is pretty killer. The price is great at $240. Yamamoto material. Comes in 3mm and 5mm.
The wood guns will be available in open muzzel and closed muzzel.. Proto is pictured with closed muzzel standard 5/16 shaft and yes suited for slide ring. Open muzzel will havel 5/16 with 5/16 threaded w/wing shark fin shaft.
Yes that is a proto handle as our handle is going through final testing stages.
Stay tuned, I will let you knw when it is complete.

[ryddragyn]

The wetsuit is pretty killer. The price is great at $240. Yamamoto material. Comes in 3mm and 5mm.
The wood guns will be available in open muzzel and closed muzzel.. Proto is pictured with closed muzzel standard 5/16 shaft and yes suited for slide ring. Open muzzel will havel 5/16 with 5/16 threaded w/wing shark fin shaft.
Yes that is a proto handle as our handle is going through final testing stages.
Stay tuned, I will let you knw when it is complete.

I would honestly say ditch the slide ring and closed muzzle, at least for california use. Maybe the Florida guys could use the closed muzzles for freeshafting.

One concern I had is that when JBL modified the woodies to be "elite" woodies by opening the muzzle and adding a riffe-style shaft, they left behind the gap between shaft and the barrel that the slide ring normally "rode" on. As opposed to allowing the entire shaft to have surface contact with the track. So there was (I think) some shaft whip issues. If the new guns have that same track style, and merely have a muzzle and shaft change, then those issues might carry over. Just a suggestion.

Will it accept 9/32" shafts? The barrel and muzzle that is, I know the trigger mech can.

[IrieSpearo]

Euro and hybrid in the works as we speak.

Great, cant wait to get one!!! I love JBL...first gun I shot and the first fish I caugh was with a JBL...still have two jbl's in my house, and i even still use the 38 special xhd with 3 5/8 bands for the murk in the bridges, the gun is bullet proof, plus anything I shoot with it dies promptly, the accuracy is terrible, but there is usually not enough visbility for a long shot in the bridges I frequent...now I need like a 95-100cm euro for the reefs...

[jupiterlocal]

Really slick looking product.

[StickODynamite!]

Well, well liking what I see on the trigger mech design. And I may just learn to freedive with that suit. Does it come in 3-XL fat ass size? :D I don't plan on loosing weight just cause it looks purrrty.

[JBL Hunter]

Well, well liking what I see on the trigger mech design. And I may just learn to freedive with that suit. Does it come in 3-XL fat ass size? :D I don't plan on loosing weight just cause it looks purrrty.
The suits do come in size 60 which is a 3-XL. There is a full size run from 50-60. I will send out more details as the wood guns are finalized.

[BigMako]

I hate to say it, but the handle on that new gun looks awfully familiar. That gun looks amazingly like a cheap copy of a Wong Reef gun.

['o Cino]

For those who haven't had a chance to play with the new JBL mech., it's very smooth and progressive. Without loading the mech. it's hard to tell if the let-off is crisp, but there's no reason to think it won't be. I hope JBL keeps the handle for guys with big mitts like me :)

Cheers, still putting the zap on fish with a S/O Magnum.

[Bill McIntyre]

If Mori is involved with the development of the guns, then its interesting that the handle seems to be an exact copy of the Aimrite handles on Wong guns. I've sent friends to Mori to get shafts, etc. for their Wong guns, and he always shows them a broken Aimrite handle, says they are junk, and then tries to sell them an Alexander handle as a replacement.

[Southern Cross]

The gun looks good from here. If it is well built, and functions properly, there is definitely a niche for it. A $300 gun that shoots new JBL, Riffe, Aimrite, and other shafts interchangeably.

I really like it because local dive shops can carry these guns cost effectively. Which also means they will carry the shafts. An almost universal shaft notch would be great for availablilty and cost of shafts.

[yakfisher]

Who sells the wetsuits and how can you tell which guns at a store have the new trigger?

[Mattedhead]

The wetsuit is pretty killer. The price is great at $240. Yamamoto material. Comes in 3mm and 5mm.
The wood guns will be available in open muzzel and closed muzzel.. Proto is pictured with closed muzzel standard 5/16 shaft and yes suited for slide ring. Open muzzel will havel 5/16 with 5/16 threaded w/wing shark fin shaft.
Yes that is a proto handle as our handle is going through final testing stages.
Stay tuned, I will let you knw when it is complete.

That is not the production handle.

If Kitto and Mori are involved I seriously doubt the gun is a "cheap wong copy." These are two of the biggest perfectionists in the sport.

[Wilddiver]

Ditto BigMako's comments...looks like a cheap rip-off of Daryl Wong's guns...
Though they do say that imitation is flattery...still, if they've blatantly copied Dr Wong's designs that's NOT nice.

[Kyle Parker]

lookit everyone gettin their panties in a bunch when jbl looks to be producing some good shit. dont attack em when you havnt even seen the finished product let alone the other half of the gun. wetsuits look awsome waiting to see a proto of the hybrid.

[jupiterlocal]

I have a new JBL Woody 38 special I used twice shore freediving. I purchased it to have a handy rock gun I could get under ledges and rocks. I used a JBL gun 20 years ago and dont remember having any power problems. What can I do to increase the power of my gun. I wounded 2 sheepshead and a Black Margate because of lack of penetration. They were all shot at 4 feet or less. My shot placement was on but I did not have the power to engage the barb system that comes factory with the shaft. Is there anything I can do? I am open to all suggestions besides getting a different gun.

[ocean_hunter]

I'd say ditch the slide rings.

[ROCKHIND]

COME ON MAN! Lets see the goods.

[jupiterlocal]

Buying a Mako, but thanks for not answering the 3 e-mails I sent or the thread. You guys made my decision easier.

[Kyle Parker]

any updates JBL???

[rojodiablo]

I have a new JBL Woody 38 special I used twice shore freediving. I purchased it to have a handy rock gun I could get under ledges and rocks. I used a JBL gun 20 years ago and dont remember having any power problems. What can I do to increase the power of my gun. I wounded 2 sheepshead and a Black Margate because of lack of penetration. They were all shot at 4 feet or less. My shot placement was on but I did not have the power to engage the barb system that comes factory with the shaft. Is there anything I can do? I am open to all suggestions besides getting a different gun.

Yes, the new JBL sticker is worth another 3 feet of range. Install one new JBL sticker on each side of the gun, and one on the bumper of your car. The 2 on the gun are foe the distance. The one on the car is for flopper deployment!!:lol:

You can switch the bands up to 2-5/8 bands and will not see negative issues with the gun. Any more, and you will bind the mechanism and the gun will not perform well. Also, of you change the shaft, you can get a 9/32" JBL shaft with a single Hawaiian flopper on it that will allow for better penetration and a good secure hold. I also HIGLY recommend reworking the shooting line to remove that slide ring. It is like a parachute under water. I run the line through the shaft, ala euro style gun. Huge improvement.

With a little thought and tuning, you can turn the regular JBL guns into MUCH better performing tools. The plastic housings do not like powerful bands, so maybe you need to stick to 2-9/16" bands. Also, some of the mechanisms have a hardface brazed to the sear to give more solid contact area, We developed that when I was sponsored by JBL in 2000. I would not really want to power one up unless that mechanism was inside the gun. This is for folks who have them now and wonder what to do to make them better.

[Louis Rossignol]

Guy Skinner was on my boat for 2 days using the New JBL Woody Magnum. He wasn't much of a rig diver at first, but I could tell from the start he's a natural born killer. Everytime I looked at that dude underwater he was pulling something else up.

He explained to me that he started with a mold of a trigger handle and dremelled it here and there, till the handle looked like the handle of a Colt pistol.

Guy has an arms background with Federal Ammunition, so wouldn't you expect something nice from a former arms dealer.

[philellis]

We just received our first shipment of the JBL one-piece Woody guns yesterday. The new M-6 handle/trigger assembly looks very nice. The fit and finish is good. Overall, this is a nice looking tool. Seems to be very well made and assembled. Feels very good in your hand. We couldn't even get them out of the box before the first customer bought the 63" Woody Magnum. He should be fishing the gun this weekend. I will post some of his feedback.

Phil Ellis
www.divesports.com

[philellis]

We have a few pictures up on our website of the new JBL woody with the M-6 trigger. Take a look. Thanks.

JBL Woody Spearguns - New M-6 Trigger Assembly (http://www.divesports.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=jbl)

Phil Ellis
www.divesports.com

[StickODynamite!]

JBL Hunter,

Would you mind posting some photos of the M-6 trigger mech? Similar to the one's I took of the old style mech, with a couple of break-down photos.

Your earlier photo showed/indicated design differences, but it wasn't a very detailed image.

Looked for some on your site, was not successful.

Thanks.

[JBL Hunter]

JBL Hunter,

Would you mind posting some photos of the M-6 trigger mech? Similar to the one's I took of the old style mech, with a couple of break-down photos.

Your earlier photo showed/indicated design differences, but it wasn't a very detailed image.

Looked for some on your site, was not successful.

Thanks.

Stick,
Here are a few photo's. The trigger is now actually called the M-7 trigger due to a small modification. Our new website under development. I am waiting on the new photos of the gun right now. Phil at www.divesports.com took some good pixs to look at. I will post more in a few days.

[David Deman]

Guy, what about the possibility of making a model with a midhandle format with the mech in the rear, instead of the rear handle configuration they are now?

[JBL Hunter]

Guy, what about the possibility of making a model with a midhandle format with the mech in the rear, instead of the rear handle configuration they are now?
Yes that is in the works. We are working on a hybrid that will be a mid handle with the triigger mech in the rear of the gun.

[David Deman]

Sweet. Can't wait to see it.

[Louis Rossignol]

The internals on that trigger look rock solid. I bet they can take alot of pressure.

[deckhandmike]

How big is the biggest model of that gun?

[JBL Hunter]

How big is the biggest model of that gun?
The largest model is the "Woody Magnum" it is a 63" inch gun. JBL measures our guns from the butt to the tip. The shaft size in the "Woody Magnum" is 48" inches.
"Sawed Off Magnum" is 53" inches with a 36" inch shaft.
"38 Special" is 42" inches with a 28" inch shaft.

[JBL Hunter]

The internals on that trigger look rock solid. I bet they can take alot of pressure.

Rok,
You are right on that. 1/4" thick internals.....4 x 5/8's bands and still a easy trigger pull. :thumps: