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chicotrout
06-02-2004, 12:12 AM
I have been diving since 1989 or so receiving my PADI basic open water certification in Dayton, Ohio. That experience has haunted me ever since, resulting in a sinking feeling felt deep in my stomach prior to every single dive I've ever made since that fateful day. The apprehension usually goes away shortly after I enter the water, and then I'm good for the rest of the day...Until the next day, when I have to force myself into the water again, and where the cycle repeats itself again and again. The thing about it is that I grew up around the ocean and I had been comfortable in the water for my entire life, that is until my certification dives.

The dive conditions in the 25ffw quarry where terrible at best. It was a cold November day with water temperatures around the low 40's and visibility in the 1-2 ft range. Since this was our very first open water dive, and we all had poor bouyancy skills (newbies), and were all wearing 5-7mm wetsuits, we were weighted down with too much lead. This was-so we were told-to to make it easier for our groups to remained perched atop of the vans, which we were using as platforms to complete our underwater exercises.

The first dive went off without a hitch. During the second dive, we found ourselves finishing the exercises early so our DiveMaster-in training-decided to show us the way to a bus which was located about 75 yds away. She asked for an air pressure check prior to departing, and all three of us (basic open water students) had anywhere between 1900-2200psi left in our 80cuft J-valve tanks. After the checks we left in tow since the vis was so bad that couldn't even see your own hand if you waved it in front of you. After trying in vain to locate the bus for about 10 minutes or so, our DiveMaster-in training- asked for another air check...1000...1300...500psi. She immediately asked us to surface, so we did.

Here is where everything got jacked. Our DiveMaster decided we would go back since one of our guys was very low on air and the vis was so bad. We were only about 50 yds away from the docks, and instead of swimming back on the surface, she told us to go back down, at which point we would gather and then proceed back under water. Last time I saw Randy alive he was purging his BCD and sinking at Mach speed along with the rest of us. When we slammed to the bottom, there were clouds of muk expolding around me where each person had managed to land. Visibility quickly turned to...dark. I felt the person to my left grabbing at my hand as I was trying to grab at the puff of silt to my right, where Randy should have been. Within seconds I felt the water move around me and the water was clouded even further with more silt. What we didn't know at the time was that Randy had freaked out because he could no longer breath. He shot up to the surface, busted both of his lungs, had a heart atack, and suffered an embolism...never had a chance.

Fire rescue found him later after dredging the quarry for three hours or so. His regulator was out of his mouth, his mask was still on his face and had filled with blood, and his J valve was still closed. The gauge read 500 psi. Because of the tradgedy, the second day of certification was postponed for about two months. The second day of certification found us in conditions that were even worse. Although we were diving a much cleaner quarry, it was in Northern Ohio near Toledo with water temps in the mid 30's, and this time with ill fitting rental equipment. I don't know what I was thinking, other than I really wanted to get through my certification because I knew that if I did not go through with it, I would probably never set foot in the water again. I was still a little shaken from before, but I figured it would be something I would eventually overcome.

That last day also saw it's share of blunders and miscalculations from the from the part instructors. I don't think they had gotten over what had happened either, but thankfully we all walked away...and we were certified.

I tried diving 3 or 4 times with one of my friends within the next several months. We were hardcore, suffereing splitting headaches from the cold with damn near 0 visibility... just to say that we did it I guess. But then I started to get a sinking feeling, a feeling of apprehension, a fear of the unknown, a feeling that I still get it to this day. I thought that further training would get me over the hump, so that year I got my advanced open water, rescue diver, and a handful of other specialties as well, but to no avail. Since then I've managed to dive all over the world, and would never give it up, but the older I get the tougher it gets to face. I know other people get that same feeling when they dive, but is it always like that, and is there anything that I can do to stop it or at the very least to ease it up? I know there is a lot of experience on this board, and I would really appreciate any input.
I've always considered myself a tough person, and admitting this fear to myself, let alone to others has not been an easy thing.

Thanx for your honest input.

Spear One
06-02-2004, 07:16 AM
Thanks for the story! Lessons to be learned for sure.

Steel Shootin'
06-02-2004, 07:17 AM
Thanks for sharing that experience, and maybe there are others on this forum who have witnessed diving tragedies that can help. If your phobic as a result, then I agree you are wise to try to overcome it if it interferes with safe diving.

It is incomprehensible that the dive instructor did the dives, and then sent divers back down low on air. I am not an instructor, but there are several skills she was expecting that only an advanced diver should do. Students have notoriously bad buoyancy control at first, and feel task loaded performing the skills they are expected to perform. To put them in 2' vis where they have no reference to orient themselves to the bottom is inviting disastor.

That must have been really tough to finish your class. I think many people, had that been their first experience with open water diving, would have said, NO THANKS!


Good luck.

fishspearit
06-02-2004, 07:51 AM
Glad you posted your story. Sounds like you got your notice early on about how unforgiving the water can be. There's nothing wrong with fear, only fools are without it, it's just our mind telling us "hey, be on alert, I'm doing something risky". The important thing is to not let it overcome you, and it sounds like it hasn't. I don't think that there's anything wrong with being a little more aware and cautious when you enter the water.

Nikki
06-02-2004, 08:06 AM
Thanks for sharing your story. Based on what you've shared, sounds as if you may have SOME of the reactions/symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder, which would be a TYPICAL response to what you have experienced. Based on the following information, I see some similarities...

PTSD is based on the development of symptoms following exposure to an extreme traumatic stressor - such as witnessing or learning about an unexpected or violent death, harm, or threat of death or injury by a family member or friend. The symptoms include feelings of fear/helplessness/horror that is persistently re-experienced by recollections, dreams, feeling as if event recurring, and distress at cues that symbolize the event. Avoidance of stimuli is necessary for a diagnosis, with symptoms of incerased arousal also indicated in individual's daily lives (sleep problems, anger, concentration problems, hypervigilance, etc.).

If you see some similarities also, the following may help...
- Relaxation techniques, such as deep breathing or intentionally relaxing different part of your body after constricting/activating the muscles
- Exposure to cues that bring distress with positive outcome at your own pace (basically teaching your body/mind to un-learn that the cues associated with the incident are dangerous)
- Remember that feelings are just that, an exaggeration of normal body reactions based on your experience, that are not harmful in and of themselves
- Remember that when fear comes, expect and accept it. Label it from 0 to 10 and watch it go up and down - it won't stay at a high level for long.
- Do not add to feelings by thinking what "might" happen and try to stay in the present.

Sounds as if you're dealing well with what you've experienced. You've increased your diving skills and kept on diving (replacing bad experiences with good ones). Your feelings are a very normal reaction and you're doing all the right things to deal with it. It is VERY unsettling what the mind can do when certain experiences are presented - the brain "learns" stuff that is sometimes VERY HARD to let go of or to "unlearn". Thanks for posting. I'm sure that a lot of us will learn something from it.

Denny
06-02-2004, 11:31 AM
Man, what a load to carry. Trop gives you some great advice. Perhaps some time with a professional counselor might help take the edge off. (Trop- are you a pro? Sounds like it.)
Every moment of life carries with it the risk of death.
Sounds like you are one strong-willed person, chico. Sorry to hear about Randy. My guess is that he would be proud of you for overcoming the natural fear that you are experiencing.
Hope you find the comfort you need.

biggsy
06-02-2004, 11:54 AM
Chico, thanks for sharing that experience with the board! I commend you for continuing to try and conquer your fear!

f94gator
06-02-2004, 04:15 PM
First thing I thought when reading that was, why did they schedule a check out dive in a silt filled quarry?

Anyway, thanks for sharing.

Faust
06-02-2004, 06:26 PM
I can relate to every thing your post says. As a matter of fact it hits very close to home after the loss of a close friend last year.It has taken me almost 10 months since this loss to get back in the water, after much prodding from friends. The only advice i can give is on a personal level is dive with people you trust and know your limits and STICK TO THEM.You are well trained and understood from the start the even simple dives can be unforgiving. No fish is worth your life.

Nikki
06-02-2004, 08:22 PM
Denny - right conclusion. I work mostly with kids and their families on behavioral and academic problems through....but have a ton of background info on various issues associated with mental health.

chicotrout
06-02-2004, 10:16 PM
Thanx to all for your input...
Tropicaldiver, I really appreciate your advice. It sounds like this PTSD really hit the nail on the head. The symptoms you were reffering to pretty much describe what I feel prior to most dives, specially when the water is cold or the vis is bad. There is one thing I did not understand though. What does "Avoidance of stimuli is necessary for a diagnosis..." mean?

Nikki
06-03-2004, 09:46 AM
Chicotrout,
For a diagnosis of PTSD to be made by a mental health professional, there must be certain elements present - one of which is a persistent avoidance of stimuli associated with the trauma. Here is a reference that lists the diagnostic criteria for PTSD:

http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/ptsd.htm

Here's some additional links for info...

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/HealthInformation/ptsdmenu.cfm

http://www.psych.org/public_info/ptsd.cfm

I find that the more I learn about mental health, the more intertwined various emotions/symptoms are - I wouldn't worry so much as to what to name what you're experiencing, but just look at it as a starting point to do some personal research/education that might give you some ideas as to what you might want to try. Hope it helps. PM me privately if you need more info.

LSUTigershark
06-06-2004, 06:20 PM
Chico,

Diver, your honesty and courage is commendable. The other advice given sounds intelligent and insightful, as well as professional. From a rescue diver who has studied many accident profiles, diving seems to be all about confidence and control.

Maintain constant vigilance over the things you can control: dive skills, buoyancy, Equipment maintenance, Dive site, Navigation, etc. and stay confident, even aggressive in the face of things you can't control: hellish currents, bad viz, equipment malfunction, physical exhaustion, etc.

Also, maybe remember that what happened is the exception, not the norm, to most diving experiences. Yeah, the potential for bad things to happen IS there when you are diving, but it's also there (and more likely) when you are driving down the highway everyday. Just a little perspective to the bad event might minimalize its effect on your psyche..

It seems silly giving you this insight because you've been pretty damn successful in managing the fear so far with staying diving and advanced training. Keep it up!

Scoobiedoo
06-15-2004, 04:35 PM
Chico,
Thanks for sharing and your a brave and strong individual to share your feelings and since you have kept diving and working thru this in overcoming your fears.

I would suggest relaxation techniques and possibly a few sessions with a counselor. Just might help...

Sounds like you have a good handle on reality and have learned much from your experience.

Don't give up - just keep diving and try and relax and enjoy yourself. Work on re-establishing your self confidence and increase your skills.

Good luck and God Bless ya!