Water on/in the moon...

[Q]

Well shit, NASA just fond water on the moon.... What will the church do now?

Q.

[ROCKHIND]

Were you molested when you were an alterboy or something? This is nothing new, heck, Comets are mostly ice. You believe what you believe, but why the hostility toward other beliefs? you don't sound to tolerant toward other peoples beliefs.

[Q]

Were you molested when you were an alterboy or something? This is nothing new, heck, Comets are mostly ice. You believe what you believe, but why the hostility toward other beliefs? you don't sound to tolerant toward other peoples beliefs.

Maybe it cuzz the church is a bunch of bug fat liers? maybe? lol...

Q.

[ROCKHIND]

"bug fat"

:lol::lol::lol:

:sleep:

[Marcus]

Were you molested when you were an alterboy or something? This is nothing new, heck, Comets are mostly ice. You believe what you believe, but why the hostility toward other beliefs? you don't sound to tolerant toward other peoples beliefs.

The preacher caught him smoking a jay behind the church one time and embarrassed in front the whole congregation...he has hated them every since.

[Q]

The preacher caught him smoking a jay behind the church one time and embarrassed in front the whole congregation...he has hated them every since.

how'd ya know?

Q.

[mnguy]

how'd ya know?

Q.

He can't quit you, Q.:lol:

[Bill McIntyre]

I'm not exactly devout, but how does water on the moon refute religion? I don't think even the Old Testament said anything about water being exclusive to earth.

[Guido4198]

What Bill Said...!!!
Don't see the connection....can you enlighten...???

[jfjf]

You guys would argue about ANYTHING! even Water! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

[jackpine savage]

Must be Obama's fault.

[kvzeyde]

Must be Obama's fault.

No, this was started and caused by Bush when he was Prez............



:rolleyes:

[jackpine savage]

No, this was started and caused by Bush when he was Prez............



:rolleyes:

Really, didn't Bush believe there was a man up there?:D

[mepps1]

I thought I was reasonably well studied on religion and origins. You have me perfectly stumped. Did you have a point in mind?

????????

[Wayward Son]

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e163/sfarish/pancakebunny.jpg

[mepps1]

The bunny should clearly have pecans, butter and strawberry jam on the pancakes on his head.


After all, NASA found ice on the moon.

[Q]

Ok, i'm kinda drunk, but I will give it a shot.

First, the Church has always pushed it's beliefs to it's followers about how the word/universe is made and crated. Before Galileo started looking at the moon with his new telescope the church told you stupid sheep Jesus lovers that the Moon was a featureless disk in the sky. Then after Mr. Galileo saw mountains and that it, the moon, rotated the church got mud on it's face and put Mr. G on/in house arrest for this.... So we know the church doesn't like being wrong about this kinda stuff..

Now Water on the moon. As most of you guys that know anything about science, And I know it's not allot of you guys, knows that were you find water, On earth, you find life. All you need is water, on earth, and you have a very high chance of finding life.... Be it dead or alive...

OK, now if we do find some old/new/any kind of life in this new water on the moon, where does that get talked about in the bible? why doesn't the bible talk about other life in other worlds? I know we haven't found it yet, but it's out there and the water on the moon is a big sing that it's VERY possible.

Ok, remember I am a little drunk ;)

Q.

Here is a wiki thingy about some of this stuff.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair

[Bill McIntyre]

Ok, remember I am a little drunk ;)


If I'm going to give you a pass, I'm going to have to conclude that you are more than a little drunk.

But how about this morning when you started?

[Q]

If I'm going to give you a pass, I'm going to have to conclude that you are more than a little drunk.

But how about this morning when you started?


I started it to see if we could talk about how phuq'in cool it is that we found water in the moon, it's like finding WSB in a lake...

The church part was to get GoGater27 to read it.

sip sip sip

Q.

[Q]

My friend said today that if Jesus found out about the water on the moon he would " moon walk " on that water... lol

Q.

[spaghetti]

Ok, i'm kinda drunk, but I will give it a shot.

First, the Church has always pushed it's beliefs to it's followers about how the word/universe is made and crated. Before Galileo started looking at the moon with his new telescope the church told you stupid sheep Jesus lovers that the Moon was a featureless disk in the sky. Then after Mr. Galileo saw mountains and that it, the moon, rotated the church got mud on it's face and put Mr. G on/in house arrest for this.... So we know the church doesn't like being wrong about this kinda stuff..

Now Water on the moon. As most of you guys that know anything about science, And I know it's not allot of you guys, knows that were you find water, On earth, you find life. All you need is water, on earth, and you have a very high chance of finding life.... Be it dead or alive...

OK, now if we do find some old/new/any kind of life in this new water on the moon, where does that get talked about in the bible? why doesn't the bible talk about other life in other worlds? I know we haven't found it yet, but it's out there and the water on the moon is a big sing that it's VERY possible.

Ok, remember I am a little drunk ;)

Q.

Here is a wiki thingy about some of this stuff.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair

Not only the Church got so upset to beat the solid piss out of Galileo, but they also beat it out of the philosophers who tried to draw the philosophical and theological consequences of the Copernican revolution.

There was this philosopher in the 16th century, Jordan Bruno, who started thinking that if the universe is immense, if there are endless worlds out there, there might be countless Gods and Jesus Christs as well, and the infinity of the space probably matches the infinity of time. There is not only one world in the centre of the Universe, and life on earth is not just a sort of countdown waiting for the Day of Judgement: it's all about worlds rising and collapsing and new worlds rising and endlessly so. This is what Jordan Bruno's philosophical thought was basically about.

No surprise, the Inquisition went knocking on his door, sentenced him to death and burnt him alive in Rome, on a cold February morning back in 1600. :thumps:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno

[mnguy]

Ok, i'm kinda drunk, but I will give it a shot.

First, the Church has always pushed it's beliefs to it's followers about how the word/universe is made and crated. Before Galileo started looking at the moon with his new telescope the church told you stupid sheep Jesus lovers that the Moon was a featureless disk in the sky. Then after Mr. Galileo saw mountains and that it, the moon, rotated the church got mud on it's face and put Mr. G on/in house arrest for this.... So we know the church doesn't like being wrong about this kinda stuff..

Now Water on the moon. As most of you guys that know anything about science, And I know it's not allot of you guys, knows that were you find water, On earth, you find life. All you need is water, on earth, and you have a very high chance of finding life.... Be it dead or alive...

OK, now if we do find some old/new/any kind of life in this new water on the moon, where does that get talked about in the bible? why doesn't the bible talk about other life in other worlds? I know we haven't found it yet, but it's out there and the water on the moon is a big sing that it's VERY possible.

Ok, remember I am a little drunk ;)

Q.

Here is a wiki thingy about some of this stuff.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair

Just because the bible doesn't talk about life on other worlds doesn't mean the church's stance on life on other worlds is that there is none. That would be like saying the church is against the internet because it isn't in the bible. It isn't meant to be a book about everything in the universe. It's a book about religion, faith and stories of the Jews in the OT and Jesus and the early church in the NT.

Life on other planets, the internet, cars, etc. are all outside the scope of the book. Trying to find those things in there would be like trying to find a thesis on astrophysics in a spearfishing magazine.

[otterdiver]

Hmmm. John 10:16 has always intrigued me... among others could leave room for many interpretations.

[mepps1]

Just because the bible doesn't talk about life on other worlds doesn't mean the church's stance on life on other worlds is that there is none. That would be like saying the church is against the internet because it isn't in the bible. It isn't meant to be a book about everything in the universe. It's a book about religion, faith and stories of the Jews in the OT and Jesus and the early church in the NT.

Life on other planets, the internet, cars, etc. are all outside the scope of the book. Trying to find those things in there would be like trying to find a thesis on astrophysics in a spearfishing magazine.

Very well said.

[mepps1]

[quote=otterdiver;1091682]Hmmm. John 10:16 has always intrigued me... among others could leave room for many interpretations.[/quote

Interesting. I guess I hadn't ever really thought of it that way.

This is one of those debates that has been framed perfectly ackbasswards. The Bible or Christianity really have nothing to say about life on other planets. Nothing for and nothing against. So the existence of life on other planets would pose no real problems for the existence of Christianity or any other religion, for that matter.

Interestingly enough, it could pose a significant difficulty to strictly random, naturalistic explanations for the origins of life. Given the stupendous (actually more or less impossible) odds of life randomly and spontaneously arising on any one planet in the universe, what ever would be the odds of it happening twice?

[Bill McIntyre]

[
Interestingly enough, it could pose a significant difficulty to strictly random, naturalistic explanations for the origins of life. Given the stupendous (actually more or less impossible) odds of life randomly and spontaneously arising on any one planet in the universe, what ever would be the odds of it happening twice?

That sure isn't the way I've heard it. Its more like given the almost infinite number of stars out there, is almost impossible to believe that life would not have arisen on some of their planets through random chance.

[gogators27]

Just because the bible doesn't talk about life on other worlds doesn't mean the church's stance on life on other worlds is that there is none. That would be like saying the church is against the internet because it isn't in the bible. It isn't meant to be a book about everything in the universe. It's a book about religion, faith and stories of the Jews in the OT and Jesus and the early church in the NT.

Life on other planets, the internet, cars, etc. are all outside the scope of the book. Trying to find those things in there would be like trying to find a thesis on astrophysics in a spearfishing magazine.

:stupid:

[gogators27]

Hmmm. John 10:16 has always intrigued me... among others could leave room for many interpretations.

Heres what I believe he was reffering to:
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/3_ne/15/17-24
(it goes on in chapter 16 to talk about how christ would visit many lands and even the people on the isles of the sea)

Although, We do have other scriptures that confirm that God has made many worlds and yes they do have people on them too:thumps:

Heres article titled: People on Other Worlds
http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&locale=0&sourceId=0b5f630f0869b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&vgnextoid=024644f8f206c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD

Hebrews 1:2 is a good one....
http://scriptures.lds.org/heb/1/2#2

[mepps1]

That sure isn't the way I've heard it. Its more like given the almost infinite number of stars out there, is almost impossible to believe that life would not have arisen on some of their planets through random chance.

That would be an article of faith or of hopeful speculation amongst agnostics and atheists.;)

What does "almost infinite" mean? That's kind of like "almost alive", or "almost existing". It doesn't seem very scientific. The separation between infinity and the highest conceivable number is still infinity.

The gulf between material and living material is every bit as vast. Like life and existence, consciousness itself and the vastness of the universe point toward Infinity, but they are neither infinite nor eternal. And none of these has its existence in itself.

It is an unfortunate and common fallacy that the universe is infinite and eternal. Neither physics or cosmology predict anything of the sort.

[Bill McIntyre]

That would be an article of faith or of hopeful speculation amongst agnostics and atheists.;)

Or maybe just a matter of probability.

What does "almost infinite" mean?

OK, that was my choice of words, and I suspected someone might attack it.

How about "there is a pisspot of them."

[rojodiablo]

I started it to see if we could talk about how phuq'in cool it is that we found water in the moon, it's like finding WSB in a lake...

The church part was to get GoGater27 to read it.

sip sip sip

Q.Okay, Corvina in the Salton shithole out there below Palm Springs. Close enough to a wsb...

My friend said today that if Jesus found out about the water on the moon he would " moon walk " on that water... lol

Q.For this one my friend, you earn mad credits, tying a bunch of child molesters like the catholic priests, and that other special child molester MJ....that one was utterly brilliant! Drunk or not, that one is the post of the month!!!!:thumps::allhail: