Spearboard Spearfishing Community http://www.spearboard.com This is a spearfishing discussion forum powered by vBulletin. To find out about vBulletin, go to http://www.vbulletin.com/ . en Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:37:47 GMT vBulletin 60 http://spearboard.com/images/misc/rss.jpg Spearboard Spearfishing Community http://www.spearboard.com Should Marijuana Be Legalized? http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96227&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:51:04 GMT Reefer, skunk, cheeb, ganj, bud, chron, you've all heard it. So read my post and vote.

Here in California its practically legal. You can't go offer a street cop a hit off your joint, mind you, but if you have a pulse, you can get a prescription and pick up at a dispensary. Same goes for people in Colorado.

Who cares if you don't need pot for medical reasons? If you get medical status, then you can save your ass from arrest. And pot IS medicine to some people, my best friend dealt with state 2 cancer and during chemo, he couldn't keep food down without a bong hit or two.

But what about the children? Hell, this IS for the children. Which do you think is harder for a kid to get, a bottle of sour mash, or a bag of weed? Why's the Jack harder to get? Cause its regulated and sold in stores. Do the same for weed, and protect the children. Make the all inclusive smoking age 18, or bump it up to 21 if you please.

Which is better: a bloody knuckled scotch laden dad passing out every night amongst broken shards of glass, or daddy passed out next to a gallon of ice cream and salty cheese powdered stained fingers? :D

Alcohol is way worse than marijuana, I believe.

I got all kinds more arguments for legalization, like the MONEY, 'specially here in California and our unique budget "situation," but I think youse get the point.

Watcha think? ]]> Politics/Religion Forum lettersmooth http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96227 Your efforts against safmc are working !! http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96226&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:36:36 GMT keep up the heat !! http://www.thefra.org/SAhearingrequest.htm keep up the heat !!

http://www.thefra.org/SAhearingrequest.htm ]]> Florida East Coast Spearfishing pelagic hunter http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96226 wtb wetsuit 3 mm http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96225&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:54:32 GMT does anyone have a 3mm 2 piece they want to sell? does anyone have a 3mm 2 piece they want to sell? ]]> California juanfighter http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96225 How to manufacture spare ss cable for sliptips? http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96224&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:03:49 GMT *How to manufacture spare ss cable for sliptips?* Does anybody know if it is possible to manufacture oneself a couple spare cable for the type of sliptips that have a very small ball of metal at the end (around 4mm diameter). These ball is inserted in a hole in the body of the tip. Some... How to manufacture spare ss cable for sliptips?

Does anybody know if it is possible to manufacture oneself a couple spare cable for the type of sliptips that have a very small ball of metal at the end (around 4mm diameter).

These ball is inserted in a hole in the body of the tip.

Some photo of the sliptip i am thinking about :



I am thinking about using a normal stainless steel soldering machine to put some metal at the end of cable and later sand it with some machine to fit the hole, but i would like to know if there is problems before trying.

Thank you everybody ]]> General Spearfishing Discussion fer_abella http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96224 JBL parts.....muzzles http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96223&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:52:42 GMT i have a JBL wood gun...the muzzle has been completly broken.

i can't seem to find replacement parts online. i've found some "open muzzles" for the tube-guns...but nothing for wood.

anyone have ideas??

also, i have a JBL tube gun with a semi-functional enclosed muzzle, wouldn't mind replacing it. but i DON'T want the open muzzle.

any ideas on that??
will a seahornet/biller muzzle fit? ]]> All About Guns keezdiver http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96223 more tog? http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96222&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:21:48 GMT Anyone whacked any tog since the limit went up? Anyone whacked any tog since the limit went up? ]]> Mid-Atlantic States captgfb http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96222 Thanksgiving Dive? Any fish out there? http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96221&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:19:37 GMT Hey guys. As a should have a Wong Nor'Easter arriving in the main around thanksgiving, I'll be itching to take it out and give it a whirl. I was considering the Ft. Weatherall area or perhaps the Pt. Judith harbor of refuge walls. My question is, are there any fish still out there. Anyone been out lately and shot anything. If there's very little chance, I'm going to see fish, I'd rather avoid getting wet and cold.

Thanks,
Alex ]]> Northern Atlantic: New England States Alexrom1207 http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96221 <![CDATA[PEW's research IS SEDAR'S research!!!!!!!!]]> http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96220&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:04:27 GMT Well this is self explanatory!

Dear Dr. DeVincentis-

Thanks so much for your interest in our work on reef fish. Often the research that comes out of our lab is used in the SEDAR reports, as is the work of many other scientists. I'm going to forward your email to Chris Koenig and perhaps he can direct you in some ways that you might be able to help.

Sincerely yours,

Felicia Coleman

At 09:54 AM 11/18/2009, DRDCHIRO14255@BELLSOUTH.NET wrote:



Dr. Coleman-
I am so interested in your work. I am ascuba diver in Florida and want to contribute to saving our oceans. I know a lot has been going on about Snapper and Grouper Fishing here. Have you done any work for the SAFMC or the SEDAR reports? I want to be able to help. What can I do.
Sincerely,
Dr. Robert DeVincentis

ROBERT DEVINCENTIS
PEW MEMBER

DRDCHIRO14255@BELLSOUTH.NET
Felicia C. Coleman, Director
Florida State University Coastal & Marine Laboratory http://www.marinelab.fsu.edu
3618 Coastal Highway
St. Teresa, FL 32358-2702

Phone: 850.697.4120
Email: coleman@bio.fsu.edu

Kathy Houck, Assistant
khouck@fsu.edu
850.697.4120

P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ]]> Florida East Coast Spearfishing Robert D. http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96220 Home made carbon fin http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96219&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:50:07 GMT I didn't get to dive much this year because I was pretty busy taking care of my twins that were born in January. I decided to put their nap times to good use and made a carbon fiber fin. This is my first attempt at a fin, so I imagine there are some things I will want to change. I decided to make one for now and give it a try, I have enough carbon for 2 or 3 more fins if I need to change something. I haven't tried it out yet, but as soon as I do I'll post up how it went. Here are some pictures, it's not perfect, but it's good enough for who it's for;)
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]]> All Other Gear Gray http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96219 diving tomorrow http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96218&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:10:39 GMT Hi guys, anyone from Boston area will go to RI tomorrow? Hi guys,
anyone from Boston area will go to RI tomorrow? ]]> Northern Atlantic: New England States FedeR http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96218 H1N1 Vaccine - Do you plan on taking it? http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96217&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:17:54 GMT Just checking to see how you all feel about the H1N1 vaccine. Here in Japan they recently rolled out the vaccine and just had their 4th death from the vaccine reported.

I won't be getting this vaccine for a few reasons. I don't feel the clinical testing was sufficient, the mortality rate is just too high, swine flu is appearing to be equal to or even milder than regular flu, I just don't get sick very often, and frankly I would rather take my chances with the flu than the shot. More so than those factors this vaccine contains two unncessary ingredients, mercury and squalene, and I am not taking any vaccine with those compounds in them.

So, whatcha gonna do? ]]> Politics/Religion Forum TEAM DTT http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96217 anyone with Vplanner handy? http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96216&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:33:04 GMT can you run a time to surface comparison real quick? 110ft 25min air vs... 110ft 25min can you run a time to surface comparison real quick?

110ft
25min
air

vs...

110ft
25min
air bottom gas, 40% nitrox @ 40ft


vs....(if you don't mind)

110ft
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air bottom gas, 100% o2 at 15ft



thanks ]]> General Spearfishing Discussion keezdiver http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96216 <![CDATA[20' vis off St Pete 52' to 62']]> http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96215&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:24:20 GMT Just N of the Whistler yesterday, 3 to 4' seas, about 72*F, and the vis is a hazy 20' but clearing. Plenty to shoot and navigate. More later.

Chad ]]> Florida Gulfcoast Spearfishing Chad Carney http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96215 SAFMC/ Congress/ NMS... WEBSITE for COMMENTS http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96214&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:22:44 GMT please to this site,,it was created by the FRA and DBS to voice your comment http://www.deep-blue-sea.org:8080/examples/servlet/SAFMC_Comment please to this site,,it was created by the FRA and DBS to voice your comment

http://www.deep-blue-sea.org:8080/ex.../SAFMC_Comment ]]> Florida East Coast Spearfishing pelagic hunter http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96214 Americans Spend Millions for Environmental Groups to Sue the Gov http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96213&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:24:57 GMT Tracking Your Taxes: Americans Spend Millions for Environmental Groups to Sue the Government http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/19/tracking-taxes-environmental-lawsuits/?test=latestnews by William Lajeunesse , FOXNews.com American taxpayers are being forced to fund thousands of... Tracking Your Taxes: Americans Spend Millions for Environmental Groups to Sue the Government

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...est=latestnews

by William Lajeunesse , FOXNews.com
American taxpayers are being forced to fund thousands of lawsuits filed against the federal government by environmental organizations -- with their lawyers clocking thousands of hours and charging fees of up to $650 an hour.

The U.S. government hands out millions of dollars each year to various environmental organizations to help protect fish, wildlife and other aspects of the environment. And every year, those same groups spend millions suing the government over everything from forest policy and carbon emissions to water quality and wolf habitats.

When the CIA failed to replace 30 percent of its fleet with hybrid cars, the Arizona-based Center for Biological Diversity sued because "its members and staff are impacted by the health effects of oil production," according to the filing. And when the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service failed to review the status of slick-stop pepper grass, the group ran up $200,000 in legal bills.

Who paid the attorneys fees? The American taxpayers did.

In the lucrative world of environmental law, the biggest defendant is the federal government, and taxpayers foot the bill. The nation's ten largest environmental groups have sued the government more than 3,000 times in a nine-year period, according to legal fund the Western Legacy Alliance, an Idaho-based legal fund that defends ranchers and farmers.

"The federal government is paying environmental groups to sue the federal government," Karen Budd-Falen, a former government official and an attorney in Cheyenne, Wyo., affiliated with the Western Legacy Alliance, told Fox News. "Taxpayers are paying for litigation, but not over substantive but procedural issues."

Procedural issues pertain simply to instances in which the federal government missed a deadline or lost the suit on a technicality, as opposed to substantive issues that are argued before a judge and require a ruling on a dispute or question.

In most legal cases, each side pays their own legal bills. That is not the case, however, when nonprofit, public interest groups sue the federal government.

Under the Equal Access to Justice Act (EAJA), Congress allows needy individuals and nonprofit organizations to recover attorneys fees whether they win, lose or settle. And while the original intent was to guarantee access to the courts for the poor, a dozen of the nation's wealthiest environmental groups are using the law.

The Environmental Defense Fund has shelled out $69 million in 67 lawsuits over the past nine years. The National Wildlife Federation has spent $97 million on 233 cases. The Wilderness Society has spent $36 million on 150 cases. And the Sierra Club has spent $46 million on 983 cases. That's just a partial list of lawsuits against the federal government over the past nine years, according to the Western Legacy Alliance.

"I absolutely believe that these cases are more about gathering attorneys fees than 'damages,'" Budd-Falen told Fox News. "There is no evidence that one dollar of these fees awarded to any group has gone into on-the-ground habitat or species protection actions.

"A majority of environmental groups use in-house attorneys, but they are requesting private attorney rates, in some cases up to $600 per hour," she said. "These fees make money for the organizations to be used to fund more litigation."

In one case, the Earthjustice Legal Defense Fund and the Western Environmental Law Center challenged a forest service regulation. There was no trial, and the agency did not contest the claim, which was resolved administratively. Yet seven environmental attorneys claimed 930 hours of work and $479,000 in attorneys fees, with one lawyer seeking $650 an hour.

In just one month, The WildEarth Guardians filed petitions to list 700 species as endangered. Each petition requires U.S. Fish and Wildlife to produce and publish a scientific response in 90 days. If it misses the deadline by one day, the agency can be sued -- and it usually loses.

But according to members of WildEarth Guardians, these suits help, rather than harm, the American people.

"We step in when the government doesn't do its job. Our work is vital to protecting clean air, clean water and native wildlife," John Horning, executive director of WildEarth Guardians, told Fox News. "The claims that our work is frivolous is totally unfounded. We only do work when the government doesn't do its job.

"Every day that we can delay development or ensure that the government complies with both the letter and the spirit of the law is a day where we feel like the public interest is victorious," he said.

WildEarth Guardians has filed at least 180 lawsuits in the federal district courts and at least 61 appeals in the appellate courts.

Now, the growing number of cases is beginning to attract the attention of some lawmakers in Congress.

Rep. Cynthia Lummis, R-Wyo., has written to the Department of Justice asking for an investigation, pointing out that much of the money being paid comes out of the Equal Access to Justice Act fund, which Congress set up for the indigent and public interest groups to recover legal fees.

Right now, the government does not account for how much is paid out to whom or for what reason.

"These are taxpayer dollars that are being used by the federal government to compensate people who have sued the federal government. I believe that taxpayers have the right to know who those people are and how much they've been paid," Lummis told Fox News.

"I think we are creating an incentive for environmental organizations to develop shops of specialists that are extremely well compensated, just to sue the federal government and recover attorneys fees."

The Sierra Club, the Center for Biodiversity, the Natural Resources Defense Council, The National Wildlife Federation and Earthjustice all refused to comment on the findings of the Western Legacy Alliance. But Horning maintains that despite their multimillion-dollar budgets, these environmental groups still qualify as the little guy.

"The government sometimes forgets to serve the little guy, and the little guy is sometimes the voiceless, whether it's public interest in clean air, water or wildlife."

But rancher John Kirkbride sees it differently. When groups sue the federal government over grazing rights, he is forced to hire an attorney to protect his rights but can't collect his legal costs because he files as "a friend of the court" and is not a named plaintiff.

"Taxpayers are footing the bill for a lot of this. I can't help but be angry this is happening," Kirkbride told Fox News.

"These interests have become very proficient at stalling, delaying and impeding progress. That is their stock and trade. It is a cash cow for them to be able to take advantage of this (EAJA) act." ]]> Politics/Religion Forum biggsy http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=96213