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Old 10-17-2013, 12:33 PM   #46
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With ten gallons of fuel and 1 guy at helm.
The Freeman isn't getting it's posted numbers in real world conditions either. An owner posted this on the last page of the Hull Truth thread where you guys are pulling your #s.

"We also did some rough water testing with 4 men running FULL tab in stacked 3-4' head sea with 20knot northeast winds. Speed was around 23-27mph and we averaged 1.5mpg."
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Old 10-17-2013, 12:40 PM   #47
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With ten gallons of fuel and 1 guy at helm.
Try 6 guys and 150 gals of fuel.
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Old 10-17-2013, 12:51 PM   #48
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Try 6 guys and 150 gals of fuel.
You don't get it John.... Their magic is stronger than yours.
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Old 10-17-2013, 12:55 PM   #49
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Re: Cat vs Mono - Revive the debate

Anyone here that wouldn't trade what they have now for a 33 Freeman? Because I sure as hell would!
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:01 PM   #50
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Did you read it to the end? The #s posted from a real fishing trip in seas were real world and much less impressive. That said this is a radically different cat with an incredible amount of horsepower put on a hull that is less than 23.5 feet long at the waterline.

YOUR previous example of a monohull getting 2MPG was NOT from a real fishing trip either. see below
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Yes it's not loaded but just like all the cat sea trial videos, they aren't either. You are making assumptions but at least this guy puts his #s in the video. All other claims are pure spectulation.
So youre basing numbers off a craigslist add from a guy trying to sell you his monohull. That's not real world numbers. And throw in "3-4ft seas full trimmed up" and I bet that monohull you posted off craigslist gets .9mpg
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:18 PM   #51
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YOUR previous example of a monohull getting 2MPG was NOT from a real fishing trip either. see below


So youre basing numbers off a craigslist add from a guy trying to sell you his monohull. That's not real world numbers. And throw in "3-4ft seas full trimmed up" and I bet that monohull you posted off craigslist gets .9mpg
You don't have to trim up a 35 foot mono for 3-4s and I seriously doubt he loses over a nautical mpg loping through at 25 knots.... At least he posted video with gps and fuel burn, your guys only post fairytales if they don't post pics.
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:25 PM   #52
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Maybe the new ones are made by magical elves laminating the cat hulls with unicorn pee.
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:30 PM   #53
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Did you read it to the end? The #s posted from a real fishing trip in seas were real world and much less impressive. That said this is a radically different cat with an incredible amount of horsepower put on a hull that is less than 23.5 feet long at the waterline. I believe the hp to weight ratio combined with brand new cutting edge 4 stroke technology plays a way bigger factor in the fuel economy than whether its a cat or a mono. Give me a quarter of a million dollars and I will get you the same #s in a pontoon boat.

Hey, where are all the Panga guys? Those things can cross the Atlantic on 6 gallons of gas during a hurricane. I won’t even get started on RIBs…
I read it to the end. That is why I liked the thread - real world numbers with load data. I would LOVE Freeman to do a dive boat. Maybe a rich guy will order one.
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Old 10-18-2013, 01:32 PM   #54
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I read it to the end. That is why I liked the thread - real world numbers with load data. I would LOVE Freeman to do a dive boat. Maybe a rich guy will order one.
The stepped hull on the Freeman is quite and inovation but the same stepping has caused negative returns on heavily loaded monos. There is no free ride in improving performance. A boat owner of any hull configuration can only hope they land in a balance of performance for load in common, real sea conditions.
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Old 10-24-2013, 01:42 PM   #55
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I'll go with V hulls or "It's not a cat, its a Freeman"
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Old 10-26-2013, 09:56 AM   #56
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The Freeman is a power cat disguised as a semi displacement. The fact they are powering a 27 foot boat with over 600 horsepower puts it in a class above what most would consider practical. Would I take one? Certainly, but I would never put that much of my cash into that small a boat considering what you could get for the same money.
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The Freeman is a power cat disguised as a semi displacement. The fact they are powering a 27 foot boat with over 600 horsepower puts it in a class above what most would consider practical. Would I take one? Certainly, but I would never put that much of my cash into that small a boat considering what you could get for the same money.
I didnt know they made a 27ft boat. And remember a cat of equal size has way more sq ft.
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Old 10-26-2013, 12:51 PM   #58
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Re: Cat vs Mono - Revive the debate

The Freeman 29VH is the Holy Grail of boats.


And I've owned or test drove them all. The Freeman 33 is amazing, but too big/wide to trailer often.


One big pro of a cat is the dive ladder set up, nothing comes as close on a V hull except the side dive door.


To each his own. I'm very very happy with my V hull. For now.

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Old 10-26-2013, 08:16 PM   #59
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Are you sure about those #s? I am very familiar with your motors as far as gallons per hour and proping. What pitch are you running as I am having a very hard time making the math work with the speeds you are claiming. That is unless cat hulls are allowing the laws of physics and hydodynamics to be broken in a parallel universe.
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Old 10-27-2013, 05:21 PM   #60
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I took a couple of pics for ya the last time I was out with the fam. Here is your proof.
No fairy tail there. And they are only burning 5 gph too? What kind of load where you running? What do they burn at 4500?
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