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Old 05-31-2013, 04:02 PM   #16
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The security detail came to us and asked if we approached her or talked to her.I told them I said good morning.They told us No eye contact,verbal contact,and no physical contact!The guy was apologetic but thats the rules for her.Ted came by almost everyday to bullshit about hunting and talked like a normal person.They should cuff her to the Vietnam memorial wall and let the vets show their appreciation.I have one uncle left that was a Navy diver that probably shouldnt ever be allowed near her.
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Old 05-31-2013, 04:11 PM   #17
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I know one thing, I damn sure wouldn't be singing like a canary, killing my fellow comrades,
Have you ever had surgery and gone under with sodium pentathol? You wouldn't remember what you said.
The last time I was under (I've had three surgeries using that drug) I came walking out to the car assisted by my niece and saying very personal and crazy things to the dental assistant. My niece was laughing her ass off...and I don't remember a thing.
You can't say that Marcus. Your mind isn't yours anymore on shit like that.
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Old 05-31-2013, 04:20 PM   #18
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Probably need to give that to politicians when they testify in court.Would be scary to hear ALL the truth!Of course afterwards they could get another injection in prison!It wont be a little prick in the arm!
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Old 05-31-2013, 05:38 PM   #19
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Have you ever had surgery and gone under with sodium pentathol? You wouldn't remember what you said.
The last time I was under (I've had three surgeries using that drug) I came walking out to the car assisted by my niece and saying very personal and crazy things to the dental assistant. My niece was laughing her ass off...and I don't remember a thing.
You can't say that Marcus. Your mind isn't yours anymore on shit like that.
Yea, I've had plenty of surgery w/ sodium penathol, given my inclination to danger as a younger lad.
Coward may be a strong word, but it was the title of the article I pasted. Given what I've read and everything he told his captures though....I don't feel bad about the label. The guy is scum. I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire. The evidence shows he sung like a canary and killed MANY others to save himself. Sounds rather cowardly to me.
Maybe it's just me, but I'd think I'd have taken the abuse/torture w/o giving all the info that killed hundreds more. I guess I'm of pure enough heart to think I'm not more important than my fellow countrymen. All that takes is strong conviction for one's country...and I've always have been a romanticist for the ideas of freedom/liberty. Something that McCain and many others in DC don't have.
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Old 05-31-2013, 05:41 PM   #20
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Probably need to give that to politicians when they testify in court.Would be scary to hear ALL the truth!Of course afterwards they could get another injection in prison!It wont be a little prick in the arm!
That would make a great law! Truth serum for all, once a year...w/ a live feed to the public! I think I'm going to send that idea to Rand Paul.
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Old 06-01-2013, 12:27 PM   #21
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I guess while I'm at it...here's another corrupt a-hole that needs admonishing.

George W. Bush on Veterans: "I don't feel sorry for them" because they volunteered.

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George W Bush has risked a backlash from veterans by claiming that he does not feel sorry for soldiers who were injured after he sent them into battle. The former President said that that 'to a certain extent you can't help it' when men got hurt on the battlefield.

He claimed that because soldiers are volunteers it absolved him from blame to a degree - and claimed that none of them were angry about their injuries. Mr Bush said: 'You know, I don't feel sorry for them, because they don't feel sorry for themselves'.

His comments are likely to be seen by Democrats as another attempt to whitewash his legacy as one of the least popular presidents in history. But they risk angering veterans' groups who have long backed him as a former Commander in Chief...
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Quote was "I dont feel sorry for them BECAUSE they dont feel sorry for themselves"Not a big fan of Lil Bush or Cheney but this one Stretches it.I will give him credit for showing up at airports and greeting troops even after being out of office!I dont think he was bright enough to do a lot he is accused of mastrminding.The snake we have now only does visits for Campaigning.If you want a couple of winners Bush Senior and Cheney.Im not sure they even have souls.
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Old 06-01-2013, 03:24 PM   #23
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GOP Rep. Louie Gohmert: ‘If It Had Not Been For Sen. John Mccain And President Obama…Benghazi Would Not Have Happened’
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Old 06-01-2013, 04:45 PM   #24
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Actually if it wasn't for the Islamic militants who killed those 4 American then Benghazi would not have happened. Lets lay the blame with those who did the actual killing. Congress and the WH are guilty of negligence but they didn't kill those four
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Yea, I've had plenty of surgery w/ sodium penathol, given my inclination to danger as a younger lad.
Coward may be a strong word, but it was the title of the article I pasted. Given what I've read and everything he told his captures though....I don't feel bad about the label. The guy is scum. I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire. The evidence shows he sung like a canary and killed MANY others to save himself. Sounds rather cowardly to me.
Maybe it's just me, but I'd think I'd have taken the abuse/torture w/o giving all the info that killed hundreds more. I guess I'm of pure enough heart to think I'm not more important than my fellow countrymen. All that takes is strong conviction for one's country...and I've always have been a romanticist for the ideas of freedom/liberty. Something that McCain and many others in DC don't have.
I agree with you in principle. If he was sitting in an airconditioned cell drinking beer all day and telling them all they wanted....his house should be bombed just like the guys that he left out to dry.
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Thanks for that Marcus, read the article and followed the link and read Schanberg's piece.....I remember thinking his war service must have made him a very viable candidate....I had no idea of any of this and can't recall it getting any media exposure in Australia.....can't help thinking 'Watergate-like' not bringing all those POW's home, f'n unbelievable.
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Old 06-02-2013, 04:13 PM   #27
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Yes sir.
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Old 06-03-2013, 09:07 AM   #28
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Re: John McCain: Coward and Traitor?

Sounds like McCain is working for N. Vietnam.
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Really? Did you work on these designs in the 1960's? I don't care for the guy but you seem to be an expert on everything just because you read it on the Internet. If you are so brilliant then why do you post on here about your employment problems? I would think a guy like you would have everyone working for them
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I just read where McCain was the likely source of the USS Forrestal fire.

USS Forrestal on fire, the worst US carrier fire since WWII
Date 29 July 1967
Time About 10:50 a.m. local time
Location Gulf of Tonkin, 19°9′5″N 107°23′5″E[1]
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134 dead[2]
161 injured[2]
cost to USN US$72 million[2]



I've worked on military designs and I can say that they're built so nothing like that could ever happen.

Sounds like McCain is working for N. Vietnam.
Marcus, they were loading live ordnance by hand, forgoing the proper lift equipment and one did not latch properly, dropped and went off. There is no way on earth McCain had anything to do with it. I can't stand the man but would no way in the world could the Forrestal be blamed on him.
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