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04-29-2020, 12:52 PM | #1 |
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Artificial Kelp Paddy
Back in the day, headed down into Mex. waters, boats would load up on large cardboard boxes. Kelp paddies scarce? No problemo. Build a raft of cardboard, mark it, and move on. Repeat if necessary. On the way back up, yup, tiny new tenants from the depths - anchovies, sardines - will have taken up residence, and the pelagics will be there to take advantage.
Instant biodegradable ecosystem. I know this will be controversial, so let the flames fly!
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04-29-2020, 12:58 PM | #2 |
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Re: Artificial Kelp Paddy
Illegal, but one could use grass/seaweed that comes from the ocean?
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04-29-2020, 03:47 PM | #3 | |
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Re: Artificial Kelp Paddy
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The other question is about boundaries. I know there is a boat that gillnets 3.001 miles off CI harbor because it is outside some kinda 3 mi. limit. There are also 12 mi and 200 mi limits, and there is some 'dumping' allowed I believe. 200 is int'l water. There is also the idea of 'burley' that people do - dump fish guts etc. but liable to bring whitey. Some people also dangle flashers from a bobbing buoy, I mount a couple on the muzzle of my gun.
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05-01-2020, 02:06 AM | #4 |
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Re: Artificial Kelp Paddy
Damn pig sticker I thought you knew some things.
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05-01-2020, 04:13 AM | #5 |
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Re: Artificial Kelp Paddy
Says the guy who struck out on bass, made a poor shot on a stupid goat instead, almost losing his gun in the process:
http://spearboard.com/showpost.php?p...21&postcount=1
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05-01-2020, 06:08 PM | #6 |
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Re: Artificial Kelp Paddy
Wow what a great report! Loved that thanks for diving deep.
And I just stirred some shit see if you would get ticked and you did. Mission accomplished haha no hard feelings pig sticker just doin what everybody else does on this site. Keep doing your thing |
05-02-2020, 12:38 AM | #7 |
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Re: Artificial Kelp Paddy
Such a fond memory of mine Aus. That thing looked so big that day. Looking back now we were such kooks diving as hard as we could. That’s how you get better right!?
Pig sticker can you do me next? Gotta be some great kook reports of mine from the past Back to the OP, I’ve heard of people picking up paddy’s close to shore on the way out and leaving them on current breaks right when they hit them with some success. Problem is the mess it makes on the deck. Tons of little critters and bits of kelp all over.
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05-02-2020, 10:48 AM | #8 |
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Re: Artificial Kelp Paddy
Cardboard appears to be legal 25 miles offshore in US territorial waters:
https://www.boatus.org/study-guide/environment/laws/
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05-02-2020, 04:25 PM | #9 |
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Re: Artificial Kelp Paddy
What about straw or hay bales, they are a natural material and could be flattened and be bound with twine in their new arrangement and shape using old school string?
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05-03-2020, 06:57 AM | #10 | |
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Cardboard actually is a natural material. It is made from fast growing pine trees owned by paper mills that re-seed on harvest, thus being sustainable. It is broken down into pulp, then rolled and dried into kraft paper. The core is corrugated and bound to the skins with corn starch based glue.
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05-04-2020, 02:59 PM | #11 | |
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You probably use CD's as flashers too, right?
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05-04-2020, 05:00 PM | #12 | |
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The flashers attached to my gun are made from salmon flashers. The ones you can attach to buoys ditto. You pull them out of the water when done spearing DUH. EDIT: BTW, if you're from SB there is a great spot for a small boat, IIRC. There is a pier at Gaviota State Beach with a crane on it. If you buy some 'certified' slings then it used to be you could use the self service crane to launch. Not sure if that is still true. Hope I didn't bust any 'secret spots'.
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05-07-2020, 06:35 PM | #13 |
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Gav pier has been down for 6+ years. No hoist or pier access thanks to storm damage that state parks was too cheap to fix.
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05-07-2020, 09:27 PM | #14 | |
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Edit: It used to be they had a hard time keeping the crane operational due to vandalism by the hollister ranch-holes trying to block access to 'their' beaches, particularly for surfing. It is really protected though, and a small RIB surf launch might be possible on a good day if it is legal.
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