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Old 05-27-2018, 08:34 PM   #331
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This is actually a funny thing in modern life......

Nowhere, and I mean nowhere in the Holy Bible is having multiple wives forbidden. Period.

Personally, I think that having one good wife is worth more than having any dozen others. Besides, I already work a lot to keep us all fed and clothed. The financial aspect alone of plural marriage would be daunting. Then the personal problems. Seems like an inherently masochistic undertaking.

But here's where it gets even stranger; If a man walked into church with his five wives, there would be scandal and outrage. If a man walks into church with his fifth wife, no one will bat an eye. Yet scripturally, the latter is clearly forbidden and the former permitted.

Jesus said quite clearly that God hates divorce. The list of things God hates is a short one. You would think that would seem significant. Yet serial marriage and divorce is practically a rite of passage in modern, nominally Christian / post-Christian societies.
Not forbidden but new testament limited participation in the church if one had more than one wife.Personally I dont have an issue with multiple wives as long as its not forced,no government help or abuse involved.
Financially if everyone was on the same page it would be great.Several spendy wives with credit cards would be hell on earth.
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Old 05-27-2018, 08:40 PM   #332
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I hear that 4 wives is optimal. 1 argues with u, 2 fight against one another, 3 causes 2 to gang up on the one, 4 causes 2 upon 2 in which your the benefactor. But hell, 1 is enough stress for me.
I have a feeling Muslim women dont get too mouthy with their husband.
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I have a feeling Muslim women dont get too mouthy with their husband.
Right. In Islam, men are authorized by the Koran to beat their wives if they do not please their husbands. Or kill them, if they wish, if somehow they have offended their "honor." Disgusting. Why would any woman support this misogynistic cult?
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Old 05-28-2018, 12:55 AM   #334
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This is actually a funny thing in modern life......

Nowhere, and I mean nowhere in the Holy Bible is having multiple wives forbidden. Period.

Actually, you are wrong about that, but this is not the place to debate it.
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Old 05-28-2018, 09:57 AM   #335
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Actually, you are wrong about that, but this is not the place to debate it.
Actually, I'm pretty certain I am not. Though I think it is not ideal, nor held as ideal in the scriptures.

What is not ideal is not the same as what is forbidden. What is forbidden is clearly spelled out, both Old Testament and New. (I Cor. 6;9, Gal. 5;19, 20, etc...
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King David and Solomon had multiple wives and concubines and had Gods favor until they broke his law.Also if your brother died you took his wife in marriage(I would make sure my brother married a nice girl!)Abraham used a woman to conceive a child while married to Sarah yet he was Gods friend.
Did God change his mind on wives?
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Old 05-28-2018, 03:23 PM   #337
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Actually, you are wrong about that, but this is not the place to debate it.
?? I'm learning theology here. If he is wrong show us. He's claiming something is not in the Bible, if it is there, why not provide the citation and clear it up.

It's something I never heard before - nor gave it much thought. But it is interesting.
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?? I'm learning theology here. If he is wrong show us. He's claiming something is not in the Bible, if it is there, why not provide the citation and clear it up.

It's something I never heard before - nor gave it much thought. But it is interesting.
New Testament Jesus was being questioned about a man that had a wife that died and remarried.When the kingdom came they asked who would the man be with.Jesus pointed out that God allowed multiple wives out of their stubborness but had intended one man and one wife.Yet women WERE given after wars as trophies with Gods blessing.
Nowhere does the bible say you will not inherit the kingdom for having more than one wife.It mentions liars,fornicators,adulterers,drunkards,thieves,mur derers,men kept for unatural purposes,etc would NOT inherit the kingdom.Multiple wives is NOT mentioned.
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New Testament Jesus was being questioned about a man that had a wife that died and remarried.When the kingdom came they asked who would the man be with.Jesus pointed out that God allowed multiple wives out of their stubborness but had intended one man and one wife.
You're combining Mathew 22:28, where Jesus responds to the Saducees, who didn't believe in the Resurrection and were trying to walay him with a trick question, and Mark 10, where the Pharisees were aiming to trip him up over questions of divorce.

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And Pharisees came up and in order to test him asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?” 3He answered them, “What did Moses command you?” 4They said, “Moses allowed a man to write a certificate of divorce and to send her away.” 5And Jesus said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart he wrote you this commandment. 6But from the beginning of creation, ‘God made them male and female.’ 7‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife,a 8and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh. 9What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”

10And in the house the disciples asked him again about this matter. 11And he said to them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her, 12and if she divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery.”
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You're combining Mathew 22:28, where Jesus responds to the Saducees, who didn't believe in the Resurrection and were trying to walay him with a trick question, and Mark 10, where the Pharisees were aiming to trip him up over questions of divorce.
OOPS,My bad.Been a while since I cracked the book open.
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It starts.....maybe add Austria as a good place to move to.

Austria closes mosques

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/06/a...sques.html?m=1
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Their religion of Islam teaches them that it is perfectly fine to steal from the unbelievers...so no surprise here.
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Their religion of Islam teaches them that it is perfectly fine to steal from the unbelievers...so no surprise here.
Really? Ha, you need to crawl out from under your rock Why don't you come and visit me in the UAE and see what it is really like living in a Muslim country? Maybe it will open your eyes....well probably wont.
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Really? Ha, you need to crawl out from under your rock Why don't you come and visit me in the UAE and see what it is really like living in a Muslim country? Maybe it will open your eyes....well probably wont.
We have had this discussion before....
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