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04-21-2009, 01:06 AM | #121 |
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Re: The freediver's safety vest--IT'S ABOUT TIME!
Just not legally
Well, you hit the nail on the head Bill. What about tradition? Did anyone argue that? Haha... j/k. If you think about it, we are all like family and should look out for each other. Last edited by BreathlessSight; 04-21-2009 at 01:16 AM. |
04-21-2009, 01:13 AM | #122 |
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Re: The freediver's safety vest--IT'S ABOUT TIME!
Please, letīs not derail this thread anymore, Live and let drown...
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04-21-2009, 01:18 AM | #123 |
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Re: The freediver's safety vest--IT'S ABOUT TIME!
The thread is to discuss views and opinions on the vest is it not? Its pretty blunt
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09-29-2009, 07:44 PM | #124 |
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Re: The freediver's safety vest--IT'S ABOUT TIME!
There are degrees of security and degrees of sense of security. What you do with each is your problem.
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02-10-2010, 07:28 AM | #125 | |
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Re: The freediver's safety vest--IT'S ABOUT TIME!
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This is exactly how I see it, but now it is manditory for all AF 18 WG or possibly PACAF to wear pfd's when snorkeling or freediving. I guess if I have to use one, I'd like one like this. Or http://www.rivermarinesupply.com/xca...Life_Vest.html
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03-03-2010, 03:01 AM | #126 |
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Re: The freediver's safety vest--IT'S ABOUT TIME!
DevonBlaine---been there, done that. Hope this PM helps.
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If I hit the loto I'm gonna buy a FRV for every freedive spearo. SPEARFISHING and RECREATIONAL FISHING NEEDS THE NRA Last edited by hau; 03-03-2010 at 03:21 AM. |
04-19-2010, 02:55 PM | #127 |
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Hawaiian divers and Paramedics test the FRV
Here are the latest tests from paramedics and Hawaiian spearfishers and deep divers: http://oceanicss.com/First_Impressions.htm
This is a photo of National Champion Wayde Hayashi taken by Sterling Kaya from the Hawiian trials. Wayde tests the recovery position Paramedic and world record holder Joe Tobin reports his success with providing rescue breathing Terry |
05-04-2010, 03:52 PM | #128 | |
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07-24-2010, 08:44 AM | #129 |
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Re: The freediver's safety vest--IT'S ABOUT TIME!
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07-24-2010, 08:59 AM | #130 |
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Re: The freediver's safety vest--IT'S ABOUT TIME!
I definitely would not buy one....... I think it is a sense of false security... I know that it is not meant to substitute a buddy but I don't think that man is smart enough to see that. I think there will be too many divers going solo because of this advice (not that there aren't now)......
If you have a properly trained buddy with you at all times, you'll never have the need for a vest like this. It's that simple! Your buddy must be within arms-reach length at all times when surfacing and you should have some sort of visual reference of him, whether it be him or a floatline. No excuses. Peace, Errol |
07-24-2010, 10:10 AM | #131 | |
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Re: The freediver's safety vest--IT'S ABOUT TIME!
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My perspective, and probably yours, is very heavily influenced by our local dive conditions: Deep and Clear (in general anyway). Many spearfisherman dive in conditions which are the opposite, dark, dirty and probably not as deep. These conditions completely prevent (or seriously compromise) the ability of divers to watch eachother or even track their buddy underwater. The buddy system has little or no value under these conditions. It's this simple: these divers are presented with two options: Don't spearfish that day or dive and (try like hell to be careful). Locally, we dive around sharks and some people will shoot around sharks and even target the fish schooling with the sharks in the pursuit of their recreational activities. Some (most) people would say that this is reckless and we should immediately get out of the water and not dive when we are confronted with bull sharks that are well documented to bite people and can be extremely aggressive. We all have to make our own risk/benefit analysis and this new technology may be relevant to that calculation for many people. In addition, I think that some divers will be able to comprehend that the vest can be utilized as a supplement to, rather than a replacement of, the buddy system.
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07-27-2010, 08:31 PM | #132 |
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Re: The freediver's safety vest--IT'S ABOUT TIME!
FLAMENCOGURU I spearfish in longisland where 97% of the time the viz sucks untill u hit the bottom so to try n see your buddy forget it n if that day we are diving deeper the 40 feet u can only wait n time the diver n wait to see if he comes up . most diving here is just drop tp the bottom n wait as long as u can for the fish to come around and spear it . some times that can take hours of diving so the deeper the less viz you have so will i buy one yes as soon it get cheaper to buy
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08-31-2010, 05:28 AM | #133 |
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Re: The freediver's safety vest--IT'S ABOUT TIME!
I always dive with a buddy, but, conditions can change the safety factor very quickly. I dive with my buddy and watch him descend and he does me, but, most times after 40ft or so he dissapears due to viz conditions, sometimes the current is stronger on the bottom than the top or vice versa so when they surface you could be far away from them. This is how it is and I wish we could have perfect visibility, but, life is not always like that so having this vest on and still using good judgment and never going beyond your limits and still trying your best to watch and be watched like your supposed to do can save your life if something does go wrong. I just started a new family and for sure will get one of these vests...I owe it to my family to invest in products that are helping to keep me safer while doing what I love to do, it is up to me and my strength to not push it and think I am invincable with such a device and if I do that I can come home to my family each time.
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08-31-2010, 05:39 AM | #134 |
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Re: The freediver's safety vest--IT'S ABOUT TIME!
Here in NZ we often find ourselves diving in conditions that make buddy diving completely impossible - deep, bad vis, too much current to swim against. Spend some time on the bottom and your buddy ends up way down current from you. Better just to have a boat following your float. The vest would be good for those situations, I definitely like the sound of it. Not a bad idea for freedive training either.
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08-31-2010, 08:51 AM | #135 |
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Re: The freediver's safety vest--IT'S ABOUT TIME!
Can anyone tell me if there are any statistics available on the likelyhood of a SWB victim regaining conciousness on their own once brought to the surface?
For example, if someone is diving solo (or their buddy is occupied or out of reach) while wearing the FRV and experiences a SWB. The vest inflates and brings them to the surface face up, but no one is there to "wake them up". Will the victim generally resume breathing and wake up on their own, or does recovery usually require intervention other than help to the surface? |
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