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Old 04-28-2009, 03:33 PM   #16
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:03 AM   #17
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Old 05-05-2009, 07:20 AM   #18
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The sign ups are going well. The prize tent is growing every day.

Keep in mind the price rises $20 next week , so sign up this week if you can.

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Question: How is if Fair for Non Commercial Divers to win When when we have to shoot with Recreational Limits. I just read a Post about the KWO and the Guys were Slayin the Blacks and Placed in the Tourny Oddly They had Commercial Licenses. That does not seem Fair for the Rest of Us who have to Follow the Recreational Rules.
Example: First Drop you see Two Nice GAg's and Take em out. They weigh 15-19 pounds apiece. Next Drop you see a 40 pounder and cant shoot him. Commercials Can And we get Hosed.
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I'll anwser that one, well at least how it is on the boat I shoot on. In the last SBO I competed on a commercial boat. The rules were like this..... Each person on the boat tagged their first five grouper (recreational limit at the time) No exceptions, that's the way it was. The same proceedure was applied to the remaining species. When you took your rec limit they were tagged with your tag.
Is there a potential for cheating, sure there is. As is with any other competitor comercial or not people can and will cheat. It is a charactor issue not a commercial thing.

Ultimately you have to come to peace with with the pitfalls of open competition. Last year a winner was disqualified for cheating after the results of a polyograph. I don't know if Tony is doing that again this year, but it may add a level of comfort for you.

The question I have for you is: Is your issue with competing with comercials at their level of performance or the fact that they could cheat.

I'm not commercial, but I have friends that are and to me it would not be a competition if they were not in it. If I could get a chance to golf in an open event, I would love to have a chance to play against Tiger Woods. To play against the best in a sport, the more exciting the competition. Everyone has the ability to cheat, rec, commercial, pro, it doesn't matter. Cheaters that win claim no real glory... only a trophy.
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:00 PM   #21
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So what's on the table so far for the first event, what do the trophies look like?????
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Do we have a preliminary prize list yet?

That's the coolest thing about this tourney. No matter where you place you will go home something from the prize table.
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Do we have a preliminary prize list yet?

That's the coolest thing about this tourney. No matter where you place you will go home something from the prize table.
Guys, almost all of the regular sponsors are back in at the same level even though we have a tough economy out there. They must like the huge traffic on Spearboard.com I guess. We are almost up to 10 million page views a month and continuing that double digit growth trend! I will post a prize thread tonight. Expect to see the usual suspects - Divers Direct, Omer, Biller, Florida Freedivers, Zeagle, Ocean Rhino, Armor, just to quickly name a few along with some newcomers like Mako. Thanks for all your great participation guys! Tony
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The question I have for you is: Is your issue with competing with comercials at their level of performance or the fact that they could cheat.

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ANswer: I am not worried about there LvL of Performance. I Can Probally swim circles around most commercial Divers and they not evenknow I was their. Thanks to My Strong DIR back Ground I am very compitant of my diving abilities. (my spelling could use some help tho) My only Concern is the fact that they can shoot until their heart is content and take the big fish in to weigh. Were as Most Rec Divers Shoot the First legals that we see.

Hell I give props for Slaying the Fish these commercial guys can do, Most of them have Great Numbers and have Huge Fish on em.

Personally I will hold out to shoot some monsters.

Good Luck to all and I hope to see you all at the SBO.
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ANswer: I am not worried about there LvL of Performance. I Can Probally swim circles around most commercial Divers and they not evenknow I was their. Thanks to My Strong DIR back Ground I am very compitant of my diving abilities. (my spelling could use some help tho)
That's a pretty bold statement, especially when some of the commercial shooters in your neck of the woods have been shooting fish before you were even conceived.

You're question is valid, and the answer you got from Kmoose is the best you'll get. IMO, having the opportunity to compete against some of the best is all I ask for.
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My only Concern is the fact that they can shoot until their heart is content and take the big fish in to weigh. Were as Most Rec Divers Shoot the First legals that we see.
If we are arguing this point then the question could be raised that it isn't fair that the Gulf Coast guys can shoot 5 gag or black grouper when I can only shoot 2. The list of arguments could go on and on (deco diving, scooters, availability of specific species in different areas, etc). I choose to hunt this tournament because I am always amazed at what some other guys show up with. I will hunt my territory, under my rules, with my personal guidelines any day just for the fun of the tournament. That's what makes the open style tournament so much fun. Good luck and see you at weight in.
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My only Concern is the fact that they can shoot until their heart is content and take the big fish in to weigh. Were as Most Rec Divers Shoot the First legals that we see.
If a commercial shooter weighs in fish that he shot after he has already shot his legal limit, that would be cheating. As if a recreational diver shoots his legal limit of grouper and into the limit of any other person on the boat to aquire a bigger fish, that also would be cheating. What would prevent cheating from either group, recreational or commercial??? Why are you so focused on commercials??? Cheating is cheating, no matter who does it.

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Hell I give props for Slaying the Fish these commercial guys can do, Most of them have Great Numbers and have Huge Fish on em.
It takes allot more than good numbers and competent diving skills to win tournaments. Although they are an integral part of a winning strategy, there is no subsitute for spearfishing talent and experience.

I will once again reference golf as a comparison; I have the same clubs as the pros, same clothes, and have played at some of the same courses and have had professional lessons..... but alas I have no golfing talent and I will not be invited to the masters next year.

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Personally I will hold out to shoot some monsters.
That is certainly a good strategy to increase your odds of winning for sure. Staying focused on your game is far more important than what the other guy may be or not be doing. If you don't have any control over it.......it just does'nt matter.

I have been in a few tournaments and cheating has been and will be a potential factor in all of them. All you can do is stay focused on what you can control and do your best. That has always worked for me. Good luck and be safe!
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If we are arguing this point then the question could be raised that it isn't fair that the Gulf Coast guys can shoot 5 gag or black grouper when I can only shoot 2. The list of arguments could go on and on (deco diving, scooters, availability of specific species in different areas, etc). I choose to hunt this tournament because I am always amazed at what some other guys show up with. I will hunt my territory, under my rules, with my personal guidelines any day just for the fun of the tournament. That's what makes the open style tournament so much fun. Good luck and see you at weight in.
We are down to 2 gags on the westside now also.

As you have put very well, "the list of arguments could go on an on". Competing in this style of tournament has it's ups and downs, but as you said it is a lot of fun and is my favorite format. Good post.
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We are down to 2 gags on the westside now also.
Sorry for the misspeak. What I meant was the 2 gags and 2 blacks can be included in the 5 grouper aggregate on the west side. East side is "No more than 2 fish may be gag or black grouper, either individually or in combination in Atlantic and Monroe County". Either way it doesn't matter. I look forward to seeing you guys at the weigh in. This year I plan shooting a tad more consistently (hopefully no 16lb aggregate weight for the first tournament that kills me for the aggregate score). Good luck to everyone!

Open style aggregate weight formats are certainly my favorite. I don't stand much of a chance in a big fish tournament, but in the aggregate style I always manage to take home something and score fairly well because it rewards consistent shooters.

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