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Old 08-22-2020, 01:08 AM   #1
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Whites Off San Diego

I have heard 2 reports of big curious whites off paddies out of San Diego this week. One of them is a video floating around social media. Be safe out there.
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Old 08-22-2020, 04:22 PM   #2
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...The number of local shark attacks on seals and sea lions is one way to evaluate the level of danger to divers. Each year, I look at the stats to look at the odds of a confrontation. This year, it doesn't look good odds-wise for divers. Along the L.A. coastline from Malibu to Long Beach, attacks on mammals are twice the normal number, with 17 attacks in recent months compared to half that number in past years. The Marine Mammal Care Center in San Pedro tallied 6 in July alone, when they typically treat only 2 or 3 animals for shark bites in that time frame.
...This year is on track for the highest number of attacks ever recorded by the Care Center. This is a clear indication that the number of larger sharks has increased, as juveniles tend to feed on stingrays, baitfish and flatfish until they reach about 8-10' in size. Considering that recovered and treated seals are only a small percentage of those attacked, the danger is definately increasing each year....
...Orange county stats are about normal at present. But, since this is the apex of shark season, the numbers could change rapidly....
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Old 08-22-2020, 06:57 PM   #3
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The reestablishment of seals and sea lions after decades of hunting for furs and meat has allowed the shark food supply to gradually return over about a century, and with it shark numbers. The beach and surf culture grew in an era of artificially depleted seas, although we never realized that at the time, but now things are getting back to “normal”. Shark numbers should be controlled or we will be back to the bad old days before whaling and sealing crushed their populations by starving them out. Otherwise there will be attacks as more humans enter the sea to "meet and greet" the new generation of big sharks.
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Old 08-22-2020, 08:57 PM   #4
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https://www.theguardian.com/australi...id-north-coast
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...a-fishing-boat
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...-fraser-island
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Old 08-23-2020, 03:41 AM   #5
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The real problem is that game management is being conducted by politicians driven by airhead prostitutes in the entertainment industry along with special interest groups hungry for donations. The results have been devastating to the wild salmon population, the pismo clam population and so on. The concept of spending tens of thousands of dollars treating injured sealions when their bloated populations are driving many species into extinction is absurd.
What is needed is impartial, scientific game management by experts in biology.
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Old 08-23-2020, 03:07 PM   #6
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One diver saw a wahoo...a fisherman caught a 43 lb 'hoo in our waters... 5 sea turtles sighted in one area...who knows what will show up this year...The 55' sea monster record I have been seeking for 50 years?..
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The real problem is that game management is being conducted by politicians driven by airhead prostitutes in the entertainment industry along with special interest groups hungry for donations. The results have been devastating to the wild salmon population, the pismo clam population and so on. The concept of spending tens of thousands of dollars treating injured sealions when their bloated populations are driving many species into extinction is absurd.
What is needed is impartial, scientific game management by experts in biology.
I think those days are past and will not return for a very long time. Science in general has been so compromised by agenda driven "results" that it has become impossible to trust mainstream "science" and its "findings" anymore. The "conclusions" of "science" are whatever the agenda of those funding it, or those who are in control of it, want it to be. The last bastion of objective truth is objective no more. They clearest example of that is the idiot "science" surrounding the management of the Covid-19 debacle.
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I think those days are past and will not return for a very long time. Science in general has been so compromised by agenda driven "results" that it has become impossible to trust mainstream "science" and its "findings" anymore. The "conclusions" of "science" are whatever the agenda of those funding it, or those who are in control of it, want it to be. The last bastion of objective truth is objective no more. They clearest example of that is the idiot "science" surrounding the management of the Covid-19 debacle.
Another perfect example would be our current MPAs. If you were involved in that process at all you completely understand what a sham it was and how flawed the science used was.
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Old 08-25-2020, 07:20 PM   #9
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I expected nothing less from our superlib democratic republic of a state =)
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Old 08-25-2020, 09:20 PM   #10
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Marine Parks were often created to attract votes. No doubt some conservation areas are a good idea, but often they are justified by nebulous ideas of "threats". You don't need a bomb disposal suit if you are looking for protection from rain, ditto for banning all fishing in an area that has sustained decades of prolonged use with no noticeable degradation. Shark lovers usually go nowhere near the ocean and have earnest conversations about the nastiness of killing animals while chewing happily on hamburgers at McDonalds.
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Old 09-01-2020, 07:28 AM   #11
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Does 91X still broadcast daily surf reports and occasional great white sightings?
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Old 09-09-2020, 02:15 AM   #12
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Saw a BIG white shark attampt to air-jaws a sea lion just outside the 9 on Sunday. The sea lion dodged multiple attacks and came out with a minor gash near its tail. Unfortunately I think the furbag lived and the shark gave up, at least while we waited around. Still way better than any shark week special.
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Damn, I was just diving there Sunday and it felt sharky as hell haha
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