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Old 06-16-2017, 11:38 AM   #1
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small id bands improvement on short 75cm gun?

I need to replace the original bands on my Seatec Snake 75. The original bands are 16mm but all worn out. I think they are set to 300% stretch although I am not sure.

Anyway I am considering to replace them with small id bands because I read so many intriguing things about them and would like to check them out.
Before I decide I have some questions:
  • on a short gun like this will I gain any improvement in performance by using small id bands or would it just be easier to load?
  • what is the recommended stretch percentage in this case?

I will also replace the metal wishbones with dyneema. The clear site picture with metal wishbones is nice but the large metal wishbone tend to chew up the other band somehow by slamming the edge that catches the sharkfin into the second band.
Any related advice/suggestions are welcome.
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Old 06-18-2017, 02:19 PM   #2
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Re: small id bands improvement on short 75cm gun?

Common guys no one? Usually there are always so many opinions when it comes down to performance issues. Would love to hear some ideas or suggestions.


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Old 06-18-2017, 05:01 PM   #3
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Re: small id bands improvement on short 75cm gun?

Short answer is yes. I use 1x14.5 small ID at 400% on all my dirty water guns. It kills anything I need it to. You'll get mixed reviews on cutting them that short, but I replace my bands frequently.
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Old 06-19-2017, 04:50 AM   #4
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Re: small id bands improvement on short 75cm gun?

you not said diameter and length of spear ,also if you replace the metal wishbone the spear notch should be smooth and not sharp
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Old 06-19-2017, 08:47 AM   #5
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Re: small id bands improvement on short 75cm gun?

If you're just looking for opinion:

Replace the bands with 14mm, looped bands. Since the gun is short, I would only use the one band, myself. Cut them short, (start at 350 and shorten if needed. Test it in the water before deciding.).If you use looped bands, you'll have to use a soft wishbone. Dyneema is fine. What are you using for a shooting line? If you aren't using monofilament, I recommend you re-rig your shooting line with a snubber and some 200# mono.

That's my opinion on how a small gun should be set up.
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Old 06-19-2017, 10:31 AM   #6
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Re: small id bands improvement on short 75cm gun?

Thanx guys. The spear is 6.5mm with a length of 105 cm
I am sorry I forgot to mention that.
After measuring,
Band lengths #1: 20 cm to 58cm @ 290%
#2: 22cm to 65cm @ 295%


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Old 06-19-2017, 03:02 PM   #7
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Re: small id bands improvement on short 75cm gun?

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If you're just looking for opinion:

Replace the bands with 14mm, looped bands. Since the gun is short, I would only use the one band, myself. Cut them short, (start at 350 and shorten if needed. Test it in the water before deciding.).If you use looped bands, you'll have to use a soft wishbone. Dyneema is fine. What are you using for a shooting line? If you aren't using monofilament, I recommend you re-rig your shooting line with a snubber and some 200# mono.

That's my opinion on how a small gun should be set up.
Thanks Chuuken, makes a lot of sense. I was thinking to start at 360% but 350% is better and shorten accordingly. I am not going to push it to 400% it will be a pain to load. I want to be able to reload fast and reserve more energy for breath up and bottom time. I got my eyes on the Sigalsub extreme and will be testing them in the pool to compare them to my old setup.
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