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Old 05-06-2012, 10:03 PM   #1
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New "project" boat - RIB

It seems like i've been posting a heck of a lot in this section rather suddenly, but it's for good reason. Yesterday, after spending the day refinishing the wood floor boards to my 13.5' Achilles, I got on craigslist to search for an engine to power it. While I didn't see anything great in my price range, I came across a rare thing for Central Oregon - a 10' RIB for sale. At $400 I couldn't resist. 24 hours later she was in my driveway and my wallet was $300 lighter.

My other project boat, the Achilles, was perfect except for two things: numerous thin spots (slow leaks) and she isn't a RIB. Now i've fixed that problem with this new boat, which only needs a 10 horse engine instead of a 15-25horse engine to boot. The brand is BoatUS, which I honestly don't know much about. Covered the new boat with soapy water and didn't find a single leak!

I think that with a little TLC and a select few mods, I'll have a great and reliable little dive boat. Going to take her out to Newport in two weeks (+- a month) and try it out with a buddies 10 horse.

Here's some boat porn.

Pictured in the background is the vehicular version of my soul mate - now with the maritime version of my first love.




The hull needs a bit more than just elbow grease and hot soapy water - any suggestions?




Solid transom and puppy helper





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Old 05-06-2012, 11:31 PM   #2
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Re: New "project" boat - RIB

You are just a boat whore. Cant resist whatever comes along - another pretty face, and you forsake your first love for another. I can't believe you! Sheesh!!!!


Nice boat, BTW!!!
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:35 AM   #3
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Re: New "project" boat - RIB

Attwood Hull Cleaner from Walmart....apply to fiberglass, let sit 60 sec, rinse....wear gloves and dont spray in your eyes, also dont soak onto tubes.
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Old 05-07-2012, 01:47 PM   #4
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You are just a boat whore. Cant resist whatever comes along - another pretty face, and you forsake your first love for another. I can't believe you! Sheesh!!!!


Nice boat, BTW!!!
Max, the truth is, I never loved the Achilles - she was just "good" enough until I found a RIB in my price range. Poor girl. Hopefully her next lover will appreciate her for what she is. I've only had her on CL for a day, and already have two guys coming out to look her over.

Not sure what you've got going on, but I'd love to have a friendly face (and boat) around when I take her out of the bay, into the open ocean. I've never piloted a boat from yaquina bay through the mouth, and know enough to understand It could end poorly if done wrong. Perhaps on a calm day after I've built some confidence in her abilities in the bay.

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Attwood Hull Cleaner from Walmart....apply to fiberglass, let sit 60 sec, rinse....wear gloves and dont spray in your eyes, also dont soak onto tubes.
Thanks for the info on the hull cleaner. First thing I need to do is clean her up, and I don't want to spend hours scrubbing if there's a product out there that will cut my work load in half without a ton of drawbacks.


MORE QUESTIONS:

I've read a lot on the subject of anchor setups for different length boats, and the general consensus is from the anchor, at least your boat's length in chain (size varies?) + a 5:1 rope/anchor ratio in calm seas or 7:1 in rough. What I'm having issues with is whether or not this applies to light craft like my RIB? Our seas on the Oregon Coast can be pretty rough, even in the protected bay.

Also, is the mushroom the best anchor shape for a combination of in the rocks and on the sand anchoring?

Thanks again for all of your help, I grew up boating on a lake, but this is my first experience owning a saltwater boat, and I can use all of the help I can get.

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Old 05-07-2012, 02:07 PM   #5
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Max, the truth is, I never loved the Achilles - she was just "good" enough until I found a RIB in my price range. Poor girl. Hopefully her next lover will appreciate her for what she is. I've only had her on CL for a day, and already have two guys coming out to look her over.

Not sure what you've got going on, but I'd love to have a friendly face (and boat) around when I take her out of the bay, into the open ocean. I've never piloted a boat from yaquina bay through the mouth, and know enough to understand It could end poorly if done wrong. Perhaps on a calm day after I've built some confidence in her abilities in the bay.
Just joking with you! I will be glad to go out with you the first/second/however many times. I know the drill pretty well around there, and would love to help. I will PM you my phone #
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Old 05-07-2012, 08:34 PM   #6
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Re: New "project" boat - RIB

On the bottom try some acid based toilet bowl cleaner a green pad and some personal protection (goggles and gloves). Its cheap. It works. You can buy it in quarts from a Janitorial house. Nice little boat.
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Old 05-11-2012, 12:05 AM   #7
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Be careful what hits the tubes. Yes any acid based cleaner will get rid of those stains-On-Off from West Marine, CLR from Home Depot etc, will clean it off, but dont get it on the Hypolon. I also went from a roll up inflatable to a RIB, and Yes, it is good! Enjoy.
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Old 05-11-2012, 01:05 PM   #8
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MORE QUESTIONS:

I've read a lot on the subject of anchor setups for different length boats, and the general consensus is from the anchor, at least your boat's length in chain (size varies?) + a 5:1 rope/anchor ratio in calm seas or 7:1 in rough. What I'm having issues with is whether or not this applies to light craft like my RIB? Our seas on the Oregon Coast can be pretty rough, even in the protected bay.

Also, is the mushroom the best anchor shape for a combination of in the rocks and on the sand anchoring?

Thanks again for all of your help, I grew up boating on a lake, but this is my first experience owning a saltwater boat, and I can use all of the help I can get.

Casey
To answer your first part, 7:1 is the minimum from what maritime tradition has held for calm conditions. 10:1 is more likely to hold for rough conditions, especially if you have the anchor tied off lower on the front of your boat. I know that is a lot of rope to have stored aboard a 10' RIB, but it is what is recommended.

As far as rope diameter, the recommendation is 1/8" diameter per 9' of boat. That being said, I wouldn't go below 3/8" diameter because smaller can be hard on the hands. The rule for the chain diameter is half that of the rope. BBB is the standard for chain and galvanized is the least expensive way to go. You are spot on for the length of the anchor chain.

I'm not sure if a mushroom anchor will work on a rocky bottom. The only time I've used one is when I was in a lake on a silty bottom and it did a fine job there. I should also mention that there was little current.

As for the size of the anchor, a lot of manufactures have nice suggestions. I would always go for one rated at 1.5 times the length or weight recommendation of the manufacturer. Personally, I would rather haul up a heavy anchor than not have a boat on the surface where I want it when I come up.

By the way, if you are willing to take me out some time and can't get your buddy's 10hp motor, I have a 15hp short shaft that I'll bring out with us. I'll even provide the gas.
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Old 05-14-2012, 08:26 AM   #9
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Yep, mushroom anchors are for a canoe on a calm lake with mud bottom period. What you would need is something that can hook into a reef, like a reef anchor, which is usually rebar welded, and into the sand or a folding anchor. Or you might try an aluminum danforth (Fortress brand)type anchor. Light weight yet strong holding.
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Re: New "project" boat - RIB

Thanks again for the help gents. With any luck, your advise will keep me from losing my boat, melting the tubes, or otherwise screwing up a good thing.

LittleGoat: I appreciate the offer, but I bought an 8hp mercury this past weekend. You are, however, welcome to come diving with me any time.

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Re: New "project" boat - RIB

Spent a few hours cleaning the hull over the past week using attwood hull cleaner. She is WAY cleaner, but it didn't get off the hard "calcification" left by barnacles or other sea creatures that were once attached there. I'll leave them be for now as I figure out how to remove them without damaging the hull. No pics of it all cleaned up.

I also managed to get two other major components: the motor and a trailer.

Bought a 1995 8hp Mercury short shaft 2 stroke from a gentlemen in Monmouth. It runs great (in a bucket) and pees with gusto.

I got the trailer in a trade with a guy from the Seattle area. He drove down here with the trailer, left it, and went home with my 13.5' SIB. With a few adjustments to the bunks I think it'll work out nicely.

Next up: fix any slow leaks and perhaps repaint her.


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Old 05-18-2012, 01:50 AM   #12
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Re: New "project" boat - RIB

Apparently the HIN is full of useful information, namely who manufactured (or imported) the boat and when it was made!

Here's the USCG website with the search engine:

http://www.uscgboating.org/recalls/mic1.aspx

Turns out she was made in March of 1995 by Sillinger. Anyone have any experience with this brand? The US distributor shut down in 95, so no joy there.

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Hot dog! It looks like a different boat after being cleaned up.

The stuff I've read about barnacle removal have all been mechanical means of doing so. A small, really sharp, wooden handle scraper will work fast on them. Just try not to gouge the boat. You could also hit it with some wet sand paper of a really fine grit that is lubricated with soapy water. Whatever you use, go slow. An acid of some kind might work too since their shells are calcium based... dunno though.
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Great progress Casey! You are gonna be killing fish soon!
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Old 05-20-2012, 10:15 PM   #15
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Yes, muratic acid will work, but it so much simpler to use a stiff scraper and just pop them off. If you do go with acid, have someone standing by with hose to rinse quick. Pour a little on to eat it off and as soon as it is gone, rinse it. Then rinse everything good. You can get muratic acid at pool stores. Home Depot sells it here, I would assume they sell it there too. I am sure you could get a new seat at West Marine.
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