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03-03-2015, 07:50 PM | #1 |
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My Friend's Responses to the Abalone Survey
Thought this was an interesting take:
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03-03-2015, 10:30 PM | #2 |
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+1. good work.
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03-04-2015, 02:33 AM | #3 |
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Thanks, not as good as your avatar picture.
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03-04-2015, 11:59 AM | #4 |
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Classic.
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03-04-2015, 12:17 PM | #5 |
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Re: My Friend's Responses to the Abalone Survey
Yeah pretty cut and dry. You could see him get madder as it went on.
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03-04-2015, 01:28 PM | #6 |
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Re: My Friend's Responses to the Abalone Survey
I have a friend in this field and I know some of her friends. Mostly all their mindsets are backwards, there is always some bogus study to support or some ridiculous story they heard through the grapevine about one time this or one time that.
I think it's mostly all from their teachers. Basically like studying women's studies at Berkeley, you all start beating the same drum, or drop/flunk out. |
03-04-2015, 02:04 PM | #7 |
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Re: My Friend's Responses to the Abalone Survey
Most of his choices were conflicting with themselves , he wants it both ways . For example he wants a limit every time but he also wants higher limits and everywhere open . Abs are the only fishery I know of where you can get a limit no mater what . If you can dive to 10' and hold your breath for 20 sec you can get a limit .
You ether get higher limits and they get fished out and it gets harder like hunting bugs , or lower limits and it's ez to get a limit every time ( like it is now) You don't get both |
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03-04-2015, 03:08 PM | #9 |
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Up everything,
Up the day take (to 4 or 5), the annual take (back to 24) and the minimum size (to something like 8'). Then limiting for lots of divers will be more difficult and respected. |
03-04-2015, 06:52 PM | #10 |
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How do they collect data on the abalone fishery? Is it only by interviewing divers/pickers after they come in after their session? I've seen them out at Van Damme conducting their surveys. Seems biased to only assess data compiled at the most popular locations.
I usually dive the Sonoma coast, but the last dive I did was in Bragg at a VERY popular spot. I didn't even venture out of the cove due to swell and I was absolutely floored by how many abalone I saw in 15-20'. |
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03-06-2015, 10:12 AM | #12 |
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Re: My Friend's Responses to the Abalone Survey
The abalone are everywhere. Some areas are stacked 3 deep. The FMP process we're in is not so much about changing the regulations as it is changing the way the fishery managed. If we leave it up to the current management plan, the ARMP, abalone will be closed completely within a few years because it is an over precautionary protection plan put in place when there wasn't a whole lot of science to determine the best way to manage the species. I agree with a lot of what you guys are saying about the futility of government surveys but I sat on a conference call with the biologists and other NGO's for two hours discussing how to make this survey matter. Some of the suggestions they took, some they didn't. After the two hour phone conference there was a month of daily e-mails to argue over the wording of the first question in section 3. The only question that matters right now really, do divers want more opportunity or more restrictions from the next management plan.
I know it's disheartening and these surveys seem stupid but this is what they're going to use to determine what the public wants from the new FMP.
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Another challenge is that a lot of new divers up here are wearing rental gear or gear they got at a garage sale so they get cold almost instantly and most spend less than an hour in the water. It's a different class of divers up here and it's a different environment but that doesn't mean there aren't enough abalone.
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