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08-02-2012, 08:47 PM | #16 | |
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Re: Spearing Jew Fish...Again
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So again why was it taken to the media?? |
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08-02-2012, 09:27 PM | #17 | |
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http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/region_...ad-off-jupiter Note that FWC would like any information about the perpetrators in this TV news report. Woody, do you have any reservations about seeking information about and punishing the law breakers? Last edited by SpearMax; 08-03-2012 at 07:05 PM. |
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08-02-2012, 10:07 PM | #18 |
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08-02-2012, 10:15 PM | #19 |
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Re: Spearing Jew Fish...Again
Would not have any problem with finding the law breakers. They did what they did and deserve to get caught and face the man.
Was it right? No....but in the end it is a just a single fish in the ocean. Bringing it to the media does highlight a touchy subject does it not? Will the pubilicity and the spin the media has already brought bring more harm than good? I think yes. After watching the video, looks to me like the dive shop is pissed someone is shooting the big fish where they take clients. Do they have a right to be pissed I would say yes. But in the end whether the shop or you see it that way, they are bringing bad publicity to your sport there. Good for the shop they are made out the good guys protecting the environment and bad for the badboys of spearfishing. As you know all it takes is one person to ruin it for everybody. |
08-02-2012, 10:40 PM | #20 |
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Re: Spearing Jew Fish...Again
Here you go Chiung. See the PDF attached from the South Atlantic Fisheries Management Council website. I would say the fish might have been "harmed" by a steel shaft in its head. If you have further questions, you might call up the state or federal authorities.
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08-02-2012, 10:57 PM | #21 | |
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The letter of the law only prohibits possession or harvest, which apparently did not happen. And if you haven't guessed, I am only playing devil's advocate. I think the shooting, even without possession or harvest, is what the law intended to prohibit by making jewfish protected. However, I disagree with the continuing need for the same level of protection, because the population is no longer endangered. |
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08-02-2012, 11:07 PM | #22 |
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08-02-2012, 11:12 PM | #23 | |
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"We believe the best advice at present for managing the U.S. goliath grouper population should be predicated on the results of the base model (Figures 4 and 5). These indicate that there is about a 50% chance that the population will have recovered to ~s50% by 2006 and about a 95% chance that it will recover by 2012." From 2007 SEFSC Goliath Status Memo http://www.sefsc.noaa.gov/sedar/down...df?id=DOCUMENT |
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08-02-2012, 11:25 PM | #24 |
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I'm with Chiung on this... time to start slayin some GG's!!
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08-02-2012, 11:37 PM | #25 | |
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Assessment Report 1 SEDAR6-SAR1 2004 SEDAR/SAFMC One Southpark Circle #306 Charleston, SC 29414 (843) 571-4366 Chuing, do you anything more current than 5 to 8 years old? |
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08-03-2012, 12:48 AM | #26 |
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Re: Spearing Jew Fish...Again
I highly doubt that the GG population has gone down in the past 5 years. Tony, do you not see dozens of these things on every wreck? They are literally everywhere up my way. They make it difficult to freedive on many wrecks here because they steal every fish you shoot. Not fun, and dangerous. I cant even remember the last time I did a dive and didnt see a GG. Its great protecting them while they were endangered, but that doesnt seem to be the case any more.
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08-03-2012, 01:08 AM | #27 | |
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Does it really happen with every fish? Perhaps we should survey this for scuba spearos and freedive spearos. I rarely lose a fish to a GG on scuba. I honestly would like to know the true experiences of other divers. |
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08-03-2012, 02:02 AM | #28 |
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I've never had a Jewfish touch my fish. There aren't even that many of them up here... just a few here and there on artificials. On a big wreck, sometimes I'll see 3-4. It sounds like the problem is much worse in the gulf/S. fl.
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08-03-2012, 02:07 AM | #29 | |
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08-03-2012, 02:23 AM | #30 |
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Re: Spearing Jew Fish...Again
a few scenarios could have happened before the grouper was speared, it could be attacking the diver's stringer or it could even be attacking the diver himself, hence in self defence, the grouper received a brow piercing.
the spearo should have finished the job, give the crabs and lobsters a grouper buffet treat and retrieve the spear. the pics won't appear online and we'll have 'world peace' lol. |
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