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Old 05-10-2014, 12:54 PM   #16
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Re: Awesome Shore Dive OC 5/9

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Sounds good. You guys keep blasting Rubberlips and leave all the bass for me.

Kyle - I want to see you shoot a ten fish stringer of only Rubberlips

Iso - I want yo to change your avatar to you holding up a stringer of trophy Rubberlips. None shorter than 20 inches!
I'm not much of a picture taker but... there was quite a firefight this day so I'll take care of yardsales and my challenge



Here ya go, there would have been 4 more but the 11th stoned fish of the dive ate em up. Dude had the munchies. Actually check that, that middle right jolie fish got it right in the fillet because it was an innocent bystander behind a big mamas face for a 2for1 special. If it gives you any perspective, that top one spans the whole length of the two below it and is the one I (I mean you) are holding in the next picture



My unofficial world record angelina with the fish thief somewhere lurking. Fish was so heavy I had to do the double-gilled poop-squat spearboard-approved elbow-pose. Notice the perfect lateral line shot placement just below the gill plate



AND... back to the shadows I traipse to be rarely seen again. Maybe in the water somewhere... someday...maybe..
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Old 05-10-2014, 01:40 PM   #17
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Re: Awesome Shore Dive OC 5/9

Omg.

Iso, you're making me lose it man. That shit is hilarious.

Do you go on Rubberlip-specific dives where you target only Rubberlips?

Are Rubberlips good in the smoker?
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Old 05-10-2014, 01:56 PM   #18
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Omg.

Iso, you're making me lose it man. That shit is hilarious.

Do you go on Rubberlip-specific dives where you target only Rubberlips?

Are Rubberlips good in the smoker?
Errin, glad to hear you lost it, if I made someone smile, it made my day that much better haha

That dive was definitely a rubblip-specific one. I think that certain reef dwellers excluding sheep, smoke well yes. They are slightly more oily than calicos which I think is good but they do have a hint more "fishier" flavor. I do however bleed and gut every reef fish I take in the water and feel that it makes a lot of difference to me in the meat quality. Obviously the fat ones are better to smoke since they don't dry out as quick.

To each their own though, I eat a lot of fish guys pass on because they think they suck. Makes my life easier getting food for myself so no worries here, I'd call it a good day in the water if I came out with a few pooeater tacos worth.

Don't get me wrong, I love me some tasty calico scaled and scored cooked whole over a grill. That skin is crispalicous.
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Re: Awesome Shore Dive OC 5/9

Damn, rubberlips hit a nerve...
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:43 PM   #20
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Damn, rubberlips hit a nerve...
I really didn't expect this thread to turn into a rubberlip discussion thread. Spearboard throws curveballs

Errin, I've smoked bass, sheephead and perch in the same batch and perch were the worst of the three. They're OK for tacos but I don't recommend them for the smoker. Then again, from this thread it looks like they're one of those "one man's trash.." kind of fish so who knows what the other guys think. I think sheephead are actually the best smoked but I almost never take those anymore.
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:47 PM   #21
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I think sheephead are actually the best smoked...
Really? I've seen others post that it doesn't smoke well at all. Interesting...

Guess, I need to get a smoker and try it for myself.
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For what it's worth, bass and halibut both come out of the smoker incredible. Still working on other species...
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Old 05-10-2014, 09:22 PM   #23
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Really? I've seen others post that it doesn't smoke well at all. Interesting...

Guess, I need to get a smoker and try it for myself.
I just use a 15 dollar charcoal grill for my smoking. The key is to not use too many coals so it keeps a low heat, around 180. Also, make sure you brine the fish long enough to give it that nice salty taste but not too long (especially with smaller fillets) or it can get too salty. Then you need to dry it on racks (I use old styrofoam takeout containers with wood skewers poked through it for a makeshift rack) and make sure to let it air dry until the fish is dry and sticky on the outside (this is crucial).

After I smoke it I eat some as-is, some I make fish salad with, but my favorite is actually to use the smoked fish for chowder.

I saute onions til translucent, add diced potatoes and carrots, and then pour chicken broth and clam juice over, add the fish and simmer til the veggies are tender. Then I lower the heat and add roux and bring it back to a boil til it thickens. Add whatever spices you want, lower the heat very low and add mexican crema.

The smoke flavor from the fish infuses into the broth and it's amazing.
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^^ I'll be right over for some chowder. Sounds tasty
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Re: Awesome Shore Dive OC 5/9

My 2 cents: Sargo -> Rubberlip.
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We both avoid shooting sheephead if it makes you feel better. I passed on a few nice ones today
Geez, you guys should avoid shooting all the barely legals. Calicos are SUPER slow to grow.

Nice 6lber though
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Geez, you guys should avoid shooting all the barely legals. Calicos are SUPER slow to grow.

Nice 6lber though
If you're really worried about the fecundity of the species, you'd be harvesting barely legals and leaving all the big ones alone. Fecundity grows exponentially with size.
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If you're really worried about the fecundity of the species, you'd be harvesting barely legals and leaving all the big ones alone. Fecundity grows exponentially with size.
Exactly what I think when people say they only shoot big Goats and give others a hard time for shooting medium sized ones...
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Exactly what I think when people say they only shoot big Goats and give others a hard time for shooting medium sized ones...
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I leave the big ones, and take the mediums.
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Old 05-14-2014, 04:18 PM   #30
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Re: Awesome Shore Dive OC 5/9

I used to never keep calicos when I was a rod and reel guy. I worked on a sportboat for a while and saw day after day after day a boatload of people all taking their 10 fish limit of 12 inchers. Plus all the shorts I had to throw back with 2/0 hooks lodged down their gullet. Shit made me sick.

Nowadays we've got a whole network of closed-off areas, the limit's been cut in half and the fish have an extra 2+ reproductive years before they reach the new legal size.

Taking calicos used to bug me. Now I'm OK with it

Diving around and seeing all the millions of juvies makes me think the population is in pretty good shape. I'm very optimistic about the future.
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