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Old 11-11-2017, 09:43 PM   #2686
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BTW that shot on the grouper was over 20 feet away - testament to the power of the Hammer gun
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Old 11-13-2017, 09:38 AM   #2687
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Wow...that pic of the dusky. To me, that dusky is identical to a bull. How do you tell them apart?
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Old 11-13-2017, 09:54 AM   #2688
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Some video from Monday, including lots of hogs and some shark action.


http://youtu.be/w3EwPhUivEI
1:05 in, peck fins straight down!

That wasn't the same shark I saw, the dorsal fin is huge compared to the one I encountered. It wasn't a dusky either. Need to study up.
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Old 11-13-2017, 10:31 AM   #2689
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Wow...that pic of the dusky. To me, that dusky is identical to a bull. How do you tell them apart?
Some of the other more experienced guys can chime in but I usually look for a head that blends into what I call strong shoulders and not an overly large dorsal fin. The scientists will point to the size and arrangement of anal fins, number of gills, location of peck fins in relation to dorsal, etc. Charley is probably correct, just start with what is known to be indigenous and you can eliminate some of the granular details. Also understand sharks travel thousands of miles a year, sometimes a 100 miles a day, so we do get the occasional white or reef shark as well.

While I am not convinced the Sharkshield works (meaning 100%), it likely does provide a new sensation to a shark they are not accustomed to. And while not as effective as say a 12-gauge or pepper spray on a bear it likely bought Eric, carrying a stringer of fish, some time; enough time through cautious curiosity that the first encounter was nose to nose. Sharks are cautious and prefer coming up under prey. If unable to come from bellow and make a test bump, test bite (surfer at rest) or all out attack (a guy in a sea kayak) they will then resort to circling the prey. The circle continues until a run is made at which point, from my experience, a test bump is made. As mentioned by someone else, that's a good time for a speartip to the nose. One of the smarter divers we go with leaves his stringer on the ledge or in the sand unless he is transiting to a new spot.

Nevertheless, the video is enough for me to believe that the Shield does buy one enough time to potentially capture the stalk vs receiving an unanticipated attack from behind, that's the investment.

I try to remind myself, I'm on life support and it's an apex predator. If it does go into a frenzy and attack I will likely never fly an airliner again, that would be an expensive hogfish. A small reef shark all the way to a white can medically end a career rather quickly.

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Old 11-13-2017, 10:48 AM   #2690
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Some of the other more experienced guys can chime in but I usually look for a head that blends into what I call strong shoulders and not an overly large dorsal fin. The scientists will point to the size and arrangement of anal fins, number of gills, location of peck fins in relation to dorsal, etc. Charley is probably correct, just start with what is known to be indigenous and you can eliminate some of the granular details. Also understand sharks travel thousands of miles a year, sometimes a 100 miles a day, so we do get the occasional white or reef shark as well.

While I am not convinced the Sharkshield works (meaning 100%), it likely does provide a new sensation to a shark they are not accustomed to. And while not as effective as say a 12-gauge or pepper spray on a bear it likely bought Eric, carrying a stringer of fish, some time; enough time through cautious curiosity that the first encounter was nose to nose. Sharks are cautious and prefer coming up under prey. If unable to come from bellow and make a test bump, test bite (surfer at rest) or all out attack (a guy in a sea kayak) they will then resort to circling the prey. The circle continues until a run is made at which point, from my experience, a test bump is made. As mentioned by someone else, that's a good time for a speartip to the nose. One of the smarter divers we go with leaves his stringer on the ledge or in the sand unless he is transiting to a new spot.

Nevertheless, the video is enough for me to believe that the Shield does buy one enough time to potentially capture the stalk vs receiving an unanticipated attack from behind, that's the investment.

I try to remind myself, I'm on life support and it's an apex predator. If it does go into a frenzy and attack I will likely never fly an airliner again, that would be an expensive hogfish. A small reef shark all the way to a white can medically end a career rather quickly.

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The shark shield has been proven time and time agian and thus far has not been 1 single attack (as I am aware). Simply having the shark circle me vs attacking from behind is enough for me, as I can easily scare off the shark. But when I have 20" rows of shark teeth on my ass there isn't much I can do.
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Old 11-13-2017, 12:00 PM   #2691
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I agree with Rich (SealRock) that I think the SS buys you some time and keeps you from getting the "surprise butt-sex" from a shark. Going to keep using it, especially in crap viz.

PS - I usually carry my stringer on my BC until I see a shark, then it transfers to my offhand. Only issue I've seen with laying your stringer down is it allows for a shark or jewfish to wander off with it, as has happened to a few people I know.
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Old 11-13-2017, 09:22 PM   #2692
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I agree with Rich (SealRock) that I think the SS buys you some time and keeps you from getting the "surprise butt-sex" from a shark. Going to keep using it, especially in crap viz.

PS - I usually carry my stringer on my BC until I see a shark, then it transfers to my offhand. Only issue I've seen with laying your stringer down is it allows for a shark or jewfish to wander off with it, as has happened to a few people I know.


Lol when Rhett tied his stringer off to my anchor chain and a Ruckus had its first tug-a-war with a Goliath.


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Old 11-14-2017, 07:50 AM   #2693
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Lol when Rhett tied his stringer off to my anchor chain and a Ruckus had its first tug-a-war with a Goliath.


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LOL - I think the reason I'm afraid to let go of my stringer is I'd never be able to find it again if I went off chasing fish.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:21 AM   #2694
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Saturday 11/11 in 35' off Sarasota vis was about 8'-10'. Wanted to run deeper but the east wind was cranking and my brother and I didn't want the girls to be too miserable in the boat while we were diving. Some sheepshead and mangroves home. Also managed a good sized cobia for the depth.



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Old 11-14-2017, 09:29 AM   #2695
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Nice cobia! I've only seen one all year and he was too small.
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Wind looks to have let up, anyone get out the last couple days?
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Went west out of CLW in 45'. Vis was 15'.




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What is the fish on the right?
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What is the fish on the right?
Yellow jack

https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/fi...-bartholomaei/
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Looks like a yellow jack but I didn't think we had them over here and have never seen one
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