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11-07-2010, 01:35 PM | #16 | ||
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Re: Save Our Oil Rigs
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My understanding of the Rigs to Reef program is that it gives states the freedom to save rigs if they meet certain Federal guidelines. How does this petition relate to that? Does it go around it, complement it, or what. What is Jindal's position? What is the position of the state legislature? Our governator recently signed a bill to save our reefs, and Obama doesn't seem to have blocked him as far as I can tell. Quote:
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11-07-2010, 08:31 PM | #17 | |
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11-07-2010, 09:03 PM | #18 |
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OK, so you don't want to answer any questions? Fuk off then. I voted no.
I realize that the local crowd down there is supposed to just follow your orders, but if you want support from other places, it might be nice to explain things. We aren't all so well trained. |
11-07-2010, 09:31 PM | #19 | |
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11-07-2010, 11:37 PM | #20 | |
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I'm sure you don't plan a career in politics, but I'll give you some advice just in case. If you want someone to vote for you or from some cause and he asks for clarification, its better to eat your pride and answer rather than saying "sign hear or **** off." It may make you feel like a big man to act that way, but its not likely to get votes. I'm glad we have a bill to save rigs here in California, and maybe it would be good if you had one too. But there is a national "Rigs to Reef" program (Google it) and I wanted to know what relationship your program had to it. But since it was beneath you to answer questions, I wondered what you were hiding. And it doesn't help to have your alter boy Nick saying that Obama hates all Americans. A lot of people who voted for him don't think he hates all Americans, so they don't take kindly to a redneck drunk saying that he does. And while it may be hard for you to believe, a lot of people who don't think he hates Americans are really for saving rigs. But if they are human, they may change their minds about rigs when the boss won't answer simple questions and his boy tells them that Obama hates them. But hell, I'm sure no political consultant, so take that for whatever you think its worth. Meanwhile, its easy for me to walk over to my wife's computer and vote no just because you told me to shut the **** up and do what you tell me to do. It will take more trouble for me to call all my non-diving relatives and friends and tell them to vote "no" too, and maybe I won't get around to it. Or maybe I will. I'll sleep on it and see how I feel in the morning about some leader who cares more about looking tough that he does about his cause. Last edited by Bill McIntyre; 11-08-2010 at 11:49 AM. |
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11-09-2010, 08:27 AM | #21 | |
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11-09-2010, 09:43 AM | #22 |
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Re: Save Our Oil Rigs
Rok,is Denny sending this out as well?
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11-09-2010, 11:28 AM | #23 |
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Bill,
YOU can check the history of the rig leasing rules without us spoon feeding you. If you dig up the original data you might actually remember it too. To save a bit of time the highlights are: 1. Original leasing required the rigs to be removed to placate the net dragger fishermen. 2. Hook and line guys got the specific approval to fish them, up front. 3. The rigs turned into significant oasis points since we have VERY limited natural rock bottoms between Mobile and Brownsville. 4. Fishermen now want the rigs to stay since even the net draggers find increased catches in areas with rigs. 5. MMS is DEMANDING the rigs be removed due to lease requirements, decreasing the near shore habitat for the "endangered" grouper and snapper populations. IF the removal rules are strictly applied, as they now are, effectively all rigs in range of the recreational citizen owned boats will be removed this decade. The solution is to grant a moratorium, at the rig operators option, on rig removal until the Govt actually gets off it's collective asses and does the research to prove to themselves that rigs actually hold fish. WE coastal folks have been begging for the research to be done for for the last 20 years. Or perhaps one of the top honchos could ACTUALLY go look at one. Ask Rok what happened the last time he took a Gulf Council fisheries biologist out for a "look see," but be prepared for the justly deserved rant that will follow.
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11-09-2010, 03:34 PM | #24 |
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[quote=Bill McIntyre;1316339]Yep, that's me. I want to outlaw spear fishing too. Can I get your vote? Don't ask questions. Just vote yes or **** off.
Bill, I think the point was to read information given at the linked site, make a decision and vote. If the site doesn't provide enough information for you personally to make a decision, feel free to do your own research. Most of us don't have the time to babysit an old codger. we have jobs, families, and diving to tend to. So pretty please with sugar on top, vote yes you prick. For everyone else, your support is apreciated. |
11-10-2010, 06:22 AM | #25 |
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I voted only 393 votes so far, come on spero's.
Roc What a great web site great graphics lots of info and videos of the rigs makes us sand divers look foward to the time we can come vist the Hell Divers and dive these bad boys.
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11-10-2010, 07:16 AM | #26 |
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Wow, so Bill asks a question about something he might be putting his name on and you guys support, and because he didn't just click "yes" and shut the hell up you guys treat him like ass...he even gave you guys some info about how some rigs are already being saved in California. I disagree with that old man on a lot of stuff, but I'm never just an outright dick just because it's easier then answering a question from someone from a different state. Way to win some support guys. I'll be living in that general area in a year or so...hope not to see any of you out on the water. If there is a "head-honcho" spearo out there...I don't care...I do what I do and don't need some self important whiners permission to enjoy the ocean around me.
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11-10-2010, 09:22 AM | #27 | |
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Vote Here To Save The Gulf Oil Rigs Yes! Keep the oil rigs in place and in tact for fishing and other energy sources. No! Tear down the rigs, cut them up and take them to the scrap yard. pollcode.com free polls You have to ask 4 questions about this subject before you can decide whether to vote for, against, or to abstain?? |
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11-10-2010, 03:42 PM | #28 | |
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I didn't see much there to debate. Then there's Bill... |
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11-10-2010, 05:25 PM | #29 | |
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11-10-2010, 05:39 PM | #30 |
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Oh yeah, I voted.
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