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2009 SBO Blue Storm Classic - May 16-17 Here is the Classic Spearboard Open Tournament on the west coast of Florida

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Old 04-21-2009, 02:46 AM   #1
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Arrow SBO Rule Changes...Post your rule questions here

Here are some notable rule changes from the year's past:

1. You must weigh your fish in person in case there are any questions about following the rules. This means that you cannot have a member of your team weigh your fish for you. If you are not present your fish will not be weighed.

2. Although the fish categories remain the same, the sizes have changed for almost every species, based on the ever changing regulations we face in Florida. Please note that Red Snapper is excluded for the SBO and this species will be addressed at a later time for future events. Here is a summary of the Fish Categories, Sizes and Limits, many of which are different from previous years:

Fish Category - (Minimum Size (Inches) and Max. No. of Fish)
Grouper/Scamp - 24” Gag or Black; 20” Red; 20” Scamp - 2 Fish Total
Snapper - 12” Mangrove; 16” Mutton - 2 Fish Total
Hogfish and Flounder - 12” - 2 Fish Total
Triggerfish and Sheepshead - 14" for trigger and 12" for sheepshead - 2 Fish Total
Amberjack or Cobia (includes other Jacks) - 30” AJ; 33” Cobia - 1 Fish Total

Maximum number of fish weighed would be 9 per shooter.

What we did is took the most strict of the size limits based on each coast's regulations and used that number.

Here is a link to the Official Rules of the 2009 SBO - Blue Storm Classic.
http://www.swregistration.ambulancep...m/pborules.pdf

Please post any rule questions you might have here.

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Old 04-21-2009, 08:22 AM   #2
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Here are some notable rule changes from the year's past:

1. You must weigh your fish in person in case there are any questions about following the rules. This means that you cannot have a member of your team weigh your fish for you. If you are not present your fish will not be weighed.
Thanks for explaining the above John. I have one more point to add.

Another rule change is that you must be present in person to collect prizes as follows from page two of the 2009 rules:

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PRIZES AND TROPHIES
As stated, this is an aggregate tournament. There will be a nice prize table. A person’s turn at the prize table will be determined solely by aggregate score total. All persons who weigh a fish will get a turn at the prize table. Winning a trophy will not yield an earlier turn at the prize table. You must be present in person to weigh your fish and collect prizes.
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Old 04-21-2009, 03:50 PM   #3
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could not call up the rules that were mentioned by Biggsy.
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1. You must weigh your fish in person in case there are any questions about following the rules. This means that you cannot have a member of your team weigh your fish for you. If you are not present your fish will not be weighed.
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so what are the sizes for jacks OTHER than AJ??
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could not call up the rules that were mentioned by Biggsy.
As far as weighing your fish in person, it's mentioned on Page 2 under PRIZES AND TROPHIES in the first paragraph, last sentence.

Also on Page 4 under WEIGH-IN PROCEDURE in the second paragraph, first sentence.

Fish categories and sizes are discussed on Page 2.
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so what are the sizes for jacks OTHER than AJ??
Any jack legal to spear can be weighed. Use your local regulations in case you are stopped by law enforcement.

As far as the tournament goes, we will use FWC regulations for any other jack.
http://www.myfwc.com/docs/RulesRegul...rRegsChart.pdf

Lesser Amberjack, Banded Rudderfish, Jack Crevalle, Yellow Jack, etc don't have any size limits.
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Biggsy:

In the link you provided, I see a slot size defined for banded and lesser AJ. They list a minimum and MAXIMUM allowable size. Are you going to be DQ'ing people for bring jacks that are too big?
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Why no red snapper?
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Why no red snapper?
There is a closed season in the Gulf in State and Federal waters for Florida.

Red Snapper are legal to harvest in South Atlantic Federal waters, although there is talk of closing the harvest down in June or July.

Since the closure of the Red Snapper has extended to Florida State waters, we decided to level the playing field and not give the East Coasters an unfair advantage over West Coasters, so we are eliminating Red Snapper this year.
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There is a closed season in the Gulf in State and Federal waters for Florida.

Red Snapper are legal to harvest in South Atlantic Federal waters, although there is talk of closing the harvest down in June or July.

Since the closure of the Red Snapper has extended to Florida State waters, we decided to level the playing field and not give the East Coasters an unfair advantage over West Coasters, so we are eliminating Red Snapper this year.
even though they have an unfair advantage when it comes to hogfish?
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even though they have an unfair advantage when it comes to hogfish?
I wasn't aware hogfish was closed on the east coast...let me check on that.
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I wasn't aware hogfish was closed on the east coast...let me check on that.
they are not closed, just you can land a huge one easily in the gulf, here we rarely even see one. i guess we do have flounder but i think there is an advantage of a large male hog over a flounder anyday.
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Another rule change is that you must be present in person to collect prizes as follows from page two of the 2009 rules:[/quote]

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they are not closed, just you can land a huge one easily in the gulf, here we rarely even see one. i guess we do have flounder but i think there is an advantage of a large male hog over a flounder anyday.
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Maybe in the Middle Grounds, but that's at least 80-100 miles offshore. I don't see huge hogs in the Fort Myers area either.

We could probably find a slight advantage for one coast over another in each category.

We try to make it as fair and balanced as possible. Comparing a species that is completely off limits to one coast to the differential in hogfish size between coasts is apples to oranges.

Last year we allowed Red Snapper from the East Coast and not the West Coast, even though you could harvest Red Snapper in State waters and not Federal waters. This year we are excluding Red Snapper altogether.

Red Snapper won't necessarily be closed for the two remaining tournaments.

Are you planning on shooting in the tournament?
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