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Old 11-05-2009, 11:22 PM   #31
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Huh

It would be nice if he would explain it and not others interpretations
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Just post the pictures.

And tell us how you came by such an appropriate user name.
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:28 PM   #32
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Huh

It would be nice if he would explain it and not others interpretations
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I would except ..... I'm going out DIVING.

Since you DONT DIVE, you probably dont understand why I would do that either!
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:36 PM   #33
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I would except ..... I'm going out DIVING.

That's Ok Scuba Fever. You can explain it tomorrow or saturday.
Your going to need some time to think about your response.

Try not to violate DFG regs tonight.
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:41 PM   #34
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Just post the pictures.

And tell us how you came by such an appropriate user name.
No Pics For You.

It is a old user name.
Port of LA/LB = Docks or Dock
Rat = Rat Beach
DockRat

Just a name I have on another site.

Bill, Do you have any comment on the topic ?
Do you ever relocate lobsters to other area codes ?

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Old 11-05-2009, 11:47 PM   #35
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I take mine to Hawaii. First class of course.
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:58 PM   #36
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Why are you on this forum? And why haven't you been banned yet?

You are the definition of a troll. Can a mod please make a beneficial ban and get rid of this guy?
Dude Your a 22 year old diver newbie.

I bring up valid points on lobsters and back it up with DFG regs.

Do you know your regs for your sport ?
How long does a calico fillet need to be ?
Maybe you should read/learn and try to bring something to the topic at hand.
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:59 PM   #37
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Dockrat,as long as the lobster is released in the same area after the picture i don't understand your point. Why are you doing this man.At least scube released it after the picture. Most people would have kept it. If it wasn't for people like scube what would be the point for this site. I wouldn't want to see people like yourself argue all the time.
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:09 AM   #38
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:28 AM   #39
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Dockrat,as long as the lobster is released in the same area after the picture i don't understand your point.
Do you really think he goes from N PV to King Harbor takes pics,
then goes back to N PV to release them in the same area code then goes
back to his King Harbor slip ?
He does not release them in the same area.

I have nothing against Scuba Fever just wondering why he C & Rs
' larger lobster ' as he says. I commend him for his actions of not taking ' larger ones '.
But if one wants to have conservative fishing values then risking breaking legs or antennas on breeders for the sole purpose of taking a pic is not really the best way to go. Why not just take a pic and let them go at the same area if he really needs more pics ?

I asked several times on the previous post why any veteran diver would
C P R larger one after diving bugs for years ? No Response.
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:30 AM   #40
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Important Reminder; Spiny Lobster Requirements

Prior to beginning lobster fishing activity, the cardholder must record the day, month,
location, and gear code on the first available line on the report card.
When the cardholder moves to another location, switches gear, or finishes fishing for the day, he or she must immediately record on the card the numbers of lobsters kept for that location useing a particular gear type. New lines must be used when changing locations, days, or gear type.
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It's easy. You get 4 bugs at Pt. Vicente, record a 4 on that line on your lobster card. You move to King Harbor, decide you want to release two of the bigger ones from Pt. Vicente and while you are diving you grab another medium-sized lobster. Record a -1 for that line on your card. Everyone is accounted for and all laws have been followed.
Doesn't this response perfectly answer the question? Nowhere in the section of regs that you quoted does it say you can't move lobsters around. Sure, you have to write it down on your card that you are moving them and that uses up another line, but it doesn't make it illegal? I don't even see the thread that you are hanging on to here?
And what, you want ScubaFever to quote Logan or else you're still in the right? It doesn't matter who proves you wrong, you're still wrong.

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Dude Your a 22 year old diver newbie.

I bring up valid points on lobsters and back it up with DFG regs.

Do you know your regs for your sport ?
How long does a calico fillet need to be ?
Maybe you should read/learn and try to bring something to the topic at hand.
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So I'm 22 and you're 49 but act 19, what? Bringing up age as a weak point is grasping at threads...
Yes I am new
Yes I do know the regs for what I shoot, if I see something that I don't know the regs on, I don't shoot it.
No I didn't know the minimum fillet size for a calico until I looked it up, but I don't fillet my fish on a vessel or in the water period, not even on the beach, so I don't need to know.

And to be clear, you didn't back up your claim with DFG regs, you just stated that to move lobster one has to write it down on another line on their lobster card... still not illegal, and you're still wrong.
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Old 11-06-2009, 01:44 AM   #41
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Do you really think he goes from N PV to King Harbor takes pics,
then goes back to N PV to release them in the same area code then goes
back to his King Harbor slip ?
He does not release them in the same area.

I have nothing against Scuba Fever just wondering why he C & Rs
' larger lobster ' as he says. I commend him for his actions of not taking ' larger ones '.
But if one wants to have conservative fishing values then risking breaking legs or antennas on breeders for the sole purpose of taking a pic is not really the best way to go. Why not just take a pic and let them go at the same area if he really needs more pics ?

I asked several times on the previous post why any veteran diver would
C P R larger one after diving bugs for years ? No Response.
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please post the section of the regs where it says it's illegal to freeze tails

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Old 11-06-2009, 01:54 AM   #42
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please post the section of the regs where it says it's illegal to freeze tails
He can't because it's not a law. Dickrat is just messing with you guys.
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Old 11-06-2009, 01:59 AM   #43
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He can't because it's not a law. Dickrat is just messing with you guys.
i know that,
i'm just waiting for his response
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:38 AM   #44
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please post the section of the regs where it says it's illegal to freeze tails

Dude, we went over this already on Daniels thread.
The DFG Regulation says very clearly that the carpace must be 3 1/4"
In Possession If you possess lobsters you must be able to prove they are legal.

Possession = On a boat, in your car, in your house.

YOU CAN'T HAVE A FREEZER WITH WITH 6 WSB IN IT FOR ONE PERSON.

POSSESSION.

Read It and Learn It.

(e) Spiny lobsters shall be kept in a whole, measurable condition, until being prepared for immediate consumption.


Can one immediatly eat a frozen tail ? Don't beat this dead horse.
Wardens don't care or check freezers. Guys tail them at the dock.
But if you got pulled over and the warden say a bag of tails you would have a problem.




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I have read that you cannot switch out a lobster. Example, say you get your limit with just legal lobsters and bring them onto the boat or shore. Then you go back in and find a big 6 pounder. You cant drop a smaller one back in exchange for a bigger one. That is what I read in a book. Any truth in this?
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I know that "high grading" (I think that's what its called) of this sort is illegal for abalone and it goes to reason that it would be illegal for bugs to (you bang em around for an hour in your dive bag, if you trade em out there's a chance they won't survive anyway), but I've never read anything to support this.


ScubaFever, I didn't really understand your previous post, are you saying that you DO return the bugs you release to the area you caught them in? Or just once again point out the fact that this wasn't the issue that DockRat was raising? Cus I understand the second part. I don't care so much about legality. I care about logic and morality. I think its only logical (not to mention moral) to return the bugs to the areas they came from. If you're saying you do that:
if not:
This is false. As is the point of returning lobster to where they were taken. A lobster may be retained and brought ashore or aboard a vessel for measuring. Any UNDERSIZED lobster must be immediately released. The regs say nothing about relasing lobster in the same spot per se; it simply says they must be immediately released if they are UNDERSIZE.
And, there is no wording on trading up. If you have a concern of the legality, (AND YOU SHOULD BE!!!) then do the simple thing: Retain 4 or 5 nicer bugs. You catch another one, check the size, and release the smaller unit unharmed. This IS legal. We do it all the time with all kinds of fish and crab. 13" calico, live in the baitwell and then a big fish climbs aboard? So long as you are not at or over your limit, and the fish can be released, you are Okay. NOW.... if you hit your limit. You would be wise to release at least one bug or fish to be assured you are within your rights. Having 5 lobster on board, and coming up to the swimstep with 3 means you will have to srop and measure your lobster IMMEDIATELY, then release the undersize lobsters, or if all 3 were legal, you immediately let one go.

Simple enough.
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