Those (usually on the left) who refused to confront communism...

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The Left Hates Conservatives
Tuesday, July 27, 2010
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Perhaps the most telling of the recent revelations of the liberal/left Journolist, a list consisting of about 400 major liberal/left journalists, is the depth of their hatred of conservatives. That they would consult with one another in order to protect candidate and then President Obama and in order to hurt Republicans is unfortunate and ugly. But what is jolting is the hatred of conservatives, as exemplified by the e-mail from an NPR reporter expressing her wish to personally see Rush Limbaugh die a painful death -- and the apparent absence of any objection from the other liberal journalists.

Every one of us on the right has seen this hatred. I am not referring to leftist bloggers or to anonymous extreme comments by angry leftists on conservative blogs -- such things exist on the right as well -- but to mainstream elite liberal journalists. There is simply nothing analogous among elite conservative journalists. Yes, nearly all conservatives believe that the left is leading America to ruin. But while there is plenty of conservative anger over this fact, there is little or nothing on the right to match the left's hatred of conservative individuals. Would mainstream conservative journalists e-mail one another wishes to be present while Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi or Michael Moore dies slowly and painfully of a heart attack?

From Karl Marx to today, the Left has always hated people on the Right, not merely differed or been angry with them.

The question is: why?

Here are three possible answers.

First, the left thinks the right is evil.

Granting for exceptions that all generalizations allow for, conservatives believe that those on the left are wrong, while those on the left believe that those on the right are bad, not merely wrong. Examples are innumerable. For example, Howard Dean, the former head of the Democratic Party said, "In contradistinction to the Republicans ... (Democrats) don't believe kids ought to go to bed hungry at night."

Or take Rep. Alan Grayson, D-Fla., who, among many similar comments, said, "I want to say a few words about what it means to be a Democrat. It's very simple: We have a conscience."

Has any spokesman of the Republican Party ever said anything analogous about Democrats not caring about the suffering of children or not having a conscience?

Second, when you don't confront real evil, you hate those who do.

You can see this on almost any school playground. The kid who confronts the school bully is often resented more than the bully. Whether out of guilt over their own cowardice or fear that the one who confronted the bully would provoke the bully to lash out more, those who refuse to confront the bully often resent the one who does. During the 1980s, the left expressed far more hatred of Ronald Reagan than of Soviet Communist dictator Leonid Brezhnev. And, when Reagan labeled the Soviet Union an "evil empire," the liberal world was enraged ... at Reagan.

Those (usually on the left) who refused to confront communism hated those (usually on the right) who did. They called the latter "war mongers," "cold warriors," charged them with having "missile envy" and with loving war.

Today, the left has similar contempt for those who take a hard line on Islamic terror. The liberal and leftist media routinely place quote marks around the words War on Terror. To the left, such a war is manufactured by rightists for nefarious reasons (oil, self-enrichment, imperialism, etc.). Indeed, the Obama administration has actually forbidden use of the term "Islamic terror." America is at war with a nameless enemy. The real enemies the Democratic administration is prepared to name are the Republican Party, tea parties, Fox News and talk radio.

Third, the left's utopian vision is prevented only by the right.

From its inception, leftism has been a secular utopian religion. As Ted Kennedy, famously quoting his brother Robert F. Kennedy, said, "Some (people) see things as they are and say why? I dream things that never were and say why not?" That exemplifies leftwing idealism -- imagining a utopian future. There will be no poor, no war, no conflict, no inequality. That future is only a few more government programs away from reality. And who stands in the way of such perfection? Conservatives. How could a utopian not hate a conservative?

To put in another way, the famous '60s left-wing motto "Make love, not war" embodies the problem as the left sees it: The left makes love in the world and the right makes war in the world. How could you not hate the right? The right, with its beliefs in a strong military; in individuals, not the state; taking care of themselves, their families and their neighbors; and in punishing criminals, is the anti-Love, a figure as reviled on the left as the antichrist is to Christians.

This hatred will only increase if the left feels its programs to greatly increase the size of the government are in any way threatened in the forthcoming elections. The problem is that this hatred does not decrease even when the left is in power.

Hatred of conservatives is so much part of the left that the day the left stops hating conservatives will mark the beginning of the end of the left as we know it.

[Marcus]

The elite want bickering. They propagate anything that divides the American people. If only the American people would come together against the powers that attempt to divide us and stop fighting among us on issues that are non-relevant, we would have the gov't we desire instead of these corrupt POS that seek to divide us on trivial issues in order to deflect attention from their corruptness.

[Bill McIntyre]

As soon as I saw that bonzo was calling me out before he even pasted his case, I quit reading, even though I suppose I should be flattered. But after it went all day with no response, I'm sort of glad that Marcus spoke up.

Its good that you two have found each other. You'll make a cute couple.

[Marcus]

Originally Posted by Bill McIntyre

As soon as I saw that bonzo was calling me out before he even pasted his case, I quit reading, even though I suppose I should be flattered. But after it went all day with no response, I'm sort of glad that Marcus spoke up.

Its good that you two have found each other. You'll make a cute couple.

Another attempt at dividing people?

[jackpine savage]

Originally Posted by Marcus

Another attempt at dividing people?

Actually it looked like he was trying to bring you two together.

[FOWLER267]

Theres alot to be said about liberals who would favor the enemy over the US and quite a few have over the years.

[ocean_314]

The left believe that life is not fair and should be made fair by the government.

So if one guy gets lucky and wins millions in the lotto then it’s not fair that everyone didn’t win so the winner needs to spread his wealth around so as to make it fair for all.

Same goes for a businessman that makes it though hard work and skills. It’s not fair that he made it so he needs to spread his wealth around so it’s fair for all.

The conservative says I made the money or won the money its mine go make your own and get your !@$@#$@#$@## hands off my wallet.

[jackpine savage]

Originally Posted by FOWLER267

Theres alot to be said about liberals who would favor the enemy over the US and quite a few have over the years.

I can also show you a lot of liberals who lost their lives fighting communism on behalf of this country. Being a liberal does not make one un-American, nor does being a conservative make one a patriot.

[FOWLER267]

Originally Posted by jackpine savage

I can also show you a lot of liberals who lost their lives fighting communism on behalf of this country. Being a liberal does not make one un-American, nor does being a conservative make one a patriot.

We won the cold war by standing up to the Warsaw pact. Appeasement failed.

Reagan was able to compromise from a position of strength. Carter wasnt'.

[jackpine savage]

Originally Posted by FOWLER267

We won the cold war by standing up to the Warsaw pact. Appeasement failed.

Reagan was able to compromise from a position of strength. Carter wasnt'.

Do you know who wrote the containment strategy that was the linchpin of US strategy towards the Warsaw Pact? A man named George Kennan who was definitely no conservative. You need to look at this historically and beyond your own timeline. For every Carter the right gave us a McCarthy. He did more damage than Carter ever did, all in the name of battling Communism.

[Marcus]

Originally Posted by jackpine savage

Do you know who wrote the containment strategy that was the linchpin of US strategy towards the Warsaw Pact? A man named George Kennan who was definitely no conservative. You need to look at this historically and beyond your own timeline. For every Carter the right gave us a McCarthy. He did more damage than Carter ever did, all in the name of battling Communism.

I'm still on the fence w/ McCarthy. How did he do us more damage? I've certainly seen the media portrayal of him but I've also read the other side. I'm not so sure McCarthy was bad for America. Take a look at all the people in Congress currently members of the Socialist party. I'm not so sure that a membership of such in Congress is such a good thing.