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06-05-2008, 09:54 PM | #1 |
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Converting a euro closed muzzle to open muzzle
After reading superfrogs alteration to his gun (nice fish by the way !, I started thinking about converting one of my rabitechs to open muzzle. I bought an open muzzle from erik sun and installed it on my 120 stealth carbon, it works fantastic but I still want to try to convert some of my other rabis. If this doesn't work I'm planning on ordering another open muzzle from him.
I picked up a stainless nail from west marine to use as the pin and will probably cut the top of the closed muzzle with a dremel. Anyone ever do this to a closed muzzle euro that has some pix before I butcher it? The rabitech closed muzzle is made pretty sturdy, I'm sure I can cut out quite a bit of material out of it. I've got three days off and the swell is picking up so there's plenty of time . Famous last words...
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06-05-2008, 09:58 PM | #2 |
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Re: Converting a euro closed muzzle to open muzzle
how big is the head on the nail? is it like a finish nail with a real small head? if that is the case, i think you can get that baby piping hot and stuff her into the plastic, maybe drill out a bit of material first, like a pilot hole, and cram it in head first. my thinking is that the melted plastic will flow around the head and lock er in.. otherwise, maybe pinch it in a vice or some big pliers to knurl the metal, so the plastic can bite into something....
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06-05-2008, 10:02 PM | #3 |
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Re: Converting a euro closed muzzle to open muzzle
Mario Korf has doen it to a few guns and it seems like it worked pretty well. Drop him a line...
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06-05-2008, 10:03 PM | #4 |
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Re: Converting a euro closed muzzle to open muzzle
That's what I'm thinking too Patrick, the piece I picked up is about the same size as the one on my other open muzzle gun. I'm going to predrill the hole small, then heat up the nail. I think the trick is to not move the nail when it goes thru, otherwise that plastic is going to melt around the nail too much and leave a bigger hole. I'm going to cut off the head of the nail first though (it's a finishing nail).
The main thing I'm looking for is how much material anyone has cut out of their closed muzzles and in what spots.
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06-05-2008, 10:28 PM | #5 |
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Re: Converting a euro closed muzzle to open muzzle
If it's one of the normal Rabitech/Rob Allen ones, the only one I've seen converted basically had the top half or so chopped off, starting about 1/2 to 3/4 of the way down the channel that the bands pass through, and a finishing nail inserted like you were talking about.
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06-05-2008, 11:37 PM | #6 |
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Re: Converting a euro closed muzzle to open muzzle
Here's my mods for opening up my RA muzzles. I like adding a small shackle for reel line management. I put a small pin below to keep the line in place once the bands are loaded as well as my line wrap. Now with the new RA open muzzles, I guess I won't need to do this.
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06-06-2008, 12:37 AM | #7 |
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Re: Converting a euro closed muzzle to open muzzle
You might consider using a screw instead of a nail so the threads will hold it in place. I would think that you may be able to knock out the nail.
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06-06-2008, 12:38 AM | #8 |
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Re: Converting a euro closed muzzle to open muzzle
i vote for the 50 lb wsb 2 feet away from the muzzle method
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06-06-2008, 09:47 AM | #9 |
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Re: Converting a euro closed muzzle to open muzzle
I used a stainless pin .125" diameter, and drilled the pin hole .122" The pin is angled forward and slightly out. Because the muzzle has those 2 large lobes for the band, the pin had to be tall/isolated enough so that I could easily load it with gloves. In the shop it works, but I still have to get it into the sea to test it.
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