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Old 06-18-2008, 06:16 PM   #1
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Omer Cayman HF

What kind of range I can expect with an 90 Omer Cayman HF with two 16mm round bands.
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Old 06-18-2008, 06:46 PM   #2
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Re: Omer Cayman HF

I have used the hell out of a Cayman 75, so add a few inches to the tale-

First runs, the speed was so amazing that I was taking shots that were too far out. From the tip, I was getting kills at 6 feet or so. The gun was better served waiting/stalking until the fish was about 4 feet out.

Due to the mass of the spear, it "tires" out a bit quicker, but within it's range, it is hard to beat for speed and extreme accuracy (no joke-insanely accurate).

A 90 with those bands should be an absolute screamer, I would say that you could safely get shots to 6 feet and change and land the fish.

This is just my experience with the shorter small diameter Euro guns-

Someone else will pull longer shots, but these figures are the safe distances to score with very fast fish in the kelp, in my experience.

Closer is better, as you can take advantage of the super speed of the shaft.

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Old 06-18-2008, 06:54 PM   #3
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You'll have plenty of power if you just shoot a single 20mm band out of it....
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Old 06-18-2008, 06:54 PM   #4
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Re: Omer Cayman HF

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Old 06-18-2008, 08:37 PM   #5
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Re: Omer Cayman HF

single 18 is PLENTY! With 2 16's you are going to have more power than range. This will overpower the gun. I am now using my 110 with a single 18 for shafts of 6.5-7mm. It works great. The 2X16 will certainly work but I don't think you are gaining anything...other than extended loading time. Actually I take that back, being able to use a single band on the first notch is a great way to hunt around the rocks. Confused yet? Can't go wrong with the gun, incredible trigger sensitivity and ergonomics.
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Old 06-18-2008, 08:50 PM   #6
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Re: Omer Cayman HF

You'd be better with 2x14mm instead of 2x16, but I'd stick with the single 18mm like Matt said.
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Old 06-19-2008, 12:00 AM   #7
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Re: Omer Cayman HF

I also have the 110. I shoot mine at least 50 times per week. I am using a 20 mm and a 18 mm band and a 6.5 mm shaft. I take shots at 12 feet with absolute comfort. The thing is incredibly precise. I wont say accurate because even the original testers showed it shot low and to the right. I find the exact same cluster with mine. But if you know where it shoots you can put 6 shots in a 2 inch circle. Total i have about 500 -700 shots on my gun. Heres a shot of my barrel showing wear and tear of 500+ shots and my targets from the last two weeks. The bottom line is take your HF out and test where it shoots at a certain distance, once you do this you can put a fish's eye out with it.



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Old 06-19-2008, 07:25 AM   #8
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single 18 is PLENTY! With 2 16's you are going to have more power than range. This will overpower the gun. I am now using my 110 with a single 18 for shafts of 6.5-7mm. It works great. The 2X16 will certainly work but I don't think you are gaining anything...other than extended loading time. Actually I take that back, being able to use a single band on the first notch is a great way to hunt around the rocks. Confused yet? Can't go wrong with the gun, incredible trigger sensitivity and ergonomics.
I totally agree with the single 18 for 6.5-7mm shafts. I have a 90 HF that I use for a dirty water/hole gun. Absolutely love it and feel very comfortable with 10 ft shots using 250 lb shooting line as not to slow the shaft down. I actually stoned a Cobe in the low 30 lb range with this gun. 1 suggestion that I would make is to replace the circular band that comes with the gun with an 18 band with soft wishbones. Out of the box I started seeing that the screw-in metal wishbones that came with the gun were starting to chew up the barrel and track. Just my 2 cents but I love the HF.
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Old 06-19-2008, 09:03 AM   #9
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I also have the 110. I shoot mine at least 50 times per week. I am using a 20 mm and a 18 mm band and a 6.5 mm shaft. I take shots at 12 feet with absolute comfort. The thing is incredibly precise. I wont say accurate because even the original testers showed it shot low and to the right. I find the exact same cluster with mine. But if you know where it shoots you can put 6 shots in a 2 inch circle. Total i have about 500 -700 shots on my gun. Heres a shot of my barrel showing wear and tear of 500+ shots and my targets from the last two weeks. The bottom line is take your HF out and test where it shoots at a certain distance, once you do this you can put a fish's eye out with it.



I can't see the pics but Are you saying that you are using that gun with a 20 and an 18 at the same time? If so then it SHOULD shoot low that is waaay too much power! The single twenty is a little much for that little shaft if it is tight. One thing I noticed that caused mine to shoot low was the uneven fit between the muzzle and the rail. I used a rasp, dremel and some sand paper and flushed the joint. I have never had this gun shoot to the right on me though. I am using a single 18 for 6.5-6.75 shafts and 2x16 for 7mm shafts.
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Old 06-19-2008, 10:19 AM   #10
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Re: Omer Cayman HF

My Cayman is in little pieces right now, but I am getting the parts to fix it.

Lesson- Stand the gun up in a rack on the boat, or lay it flat on the deck. Never have it sitting at an angle with the barrel and grip unsupported. I stepped on the mech during a shore launch (inflatable craft) with my toes and blew it into pieces.

On rocky exits (shoredives) keep the gun parallel to the rocks and surf as best as you can. The weak spot is where the mechanism triggerguard and the line release intersect. What gives the gun it's outstanding feel and optimum hand position, is also it's Achilles (no pun intended-thats the brand of boat in which it snapped) heel.

Great gun though. I still love it, and desperately want it fixed. As to accuracy? It nails exactly where I point, no Kentucky windage on mine...........
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