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[IrieSpearo]

Originally Posted by Daniels

glad you feel that way.I personaly vote on policies and character of a man and experience,obama has none of these in my opinion.obama is nothing more than a charismatic speaker,That is it.

Character of the man?...did you vote for Bush based on his Character, then it should be easy for you to vote for Obama, that is, unless you still think Bush has character...

[Prater]

Craig,

I am curious as to why he is lacking character in your mind. I believe you have to know a person directly to truly know their character, not what the media spits out about them. I think one of the spearboard members had a charter with McCain on a fishing trip. That person probably knows him better in one day than any of us know him from months of television.

[Daniels]

[quote=CraigC;813804]So you are choosing two of your priorities in voting for McCain, policies and experience, because when it comes to character, he is sorely lacking.

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all three,i personaly think he has plenty of character.i guess you have bought into all this obama hype,obama wouldnt know what character was if it hit him in the face,all tho he would probably tell you he did and make it sound pretty convinceing

[Bill McIntyre]

On McCain's character.

In South Carolina in 2000, Bush supporters circulated church fliers that labeled McCain “the fag candidate.”

Among the rumors circulated against McCain in 2000 in South Carolina was that his adopted Bangladeshi daughter was actually his black illegimate child, that McCain was both gay and cheated on his wife, and that his wife Cindy was a drug addict.

Bush operatives said that his 5 1/2 years as a POW in North Vietnam left him with a loose screw, and he shouldn't be trusted with nuclear weapons.

In 2000, McCain operatives in SC accused Rove of spreading rumors against McCain, such as “suggestions that McCain had committed treason while a prisoner of war, and had fathered a child by a black prostitute,” according to the New Yorker.

Other Bush operatives suggested that McCain had been programmed and was a "Manchurian Candidate."

In spite of all that, McCain turned around and cozied up to Bush in order to maintain his viability with the GOP base. Does it show character to let Bush attack your wife and child and then decide he is your buddy after all?

During that 2000 campaign, McCain called Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson "agents of intolerance." I happen to agree. But then when he decided he needed to cozy up to the religious reich, he appeared on stage with them, praised them, and spoke at their university graduations.

Does it show character to reverse yourself for political expediency?

[IrieSpearo]

Originally Posted by Prater

Craig,

I am curious as to why he is lacking character in your mind. I believe you have to know a person directly to truly know their character, not what the media spits out about them. I think one of the spearboard members had a charter with McCain on a fishing trip. That person probably knows him better in one day than any of us know him from months of television.

Good Prater, Im proud of you...nicely said!

[Gary Schulte]

I getting real sick of this shit. I just want it over with. If Obama is my next President then I will support him until I disagree with his actions just as all Americans should do. Being the first black President will be a huge responsibility. He better not ***** up.

[Prater]

Bill,

I have had mud slung at me, called names here on the board, and dished a few out myself. But if given the chance to meet anyone here on the board I would drop all the bad said against me and meet up for a beer or better yet to go out on the boat and do some spearing, even if we had disagreements. So you are saying my character is flawed because I can forgive anyone here for what is said?

[zenspearo]

Originally Posted by Prater

I have had mud slung at me, called names here on the board, and dished a few out myself. But if given the chance to meet anyone here on the board I would drop all the bad said against me and meet up for a beer or better yet to go out on the boat and do some spearing, even if we had disagreements.

[aaron proffitt]

Originally Posted by Bill McIntyre

On McCain's character.

In South Carolina in 2000, Bush supporters circulated church fliers that labeled McCain “the fag candidate.”

Among the rumors circulated against McCain in 2000 in South Carolina was that his adopted Bangladeshi daughter was actually his black illegimate child, that McCain was both gay and cheated on his wife, and that his wife Cindy was a drug addict.

Bush operatives said that his 5 1/2 years as a POW in North Vietnam left him with a loose screw, and he shouldn't be trusted with nuclear weapons.

In 2000, McCain operatives in SC accused Rove of spreading rumors against McCain, such as “suggestions that McCain had committed treason while a prisoner of war, and had fathered a child by a black prostitute,” according to the New Yorker.

Other Bush operatives suggested that McCain had been programmed and was a "Manchurian Candidate."

In spite of all that, McCain turned around and cozied up to Bush in order to maintain his viability with the GOP base. Does it show character to let Bush attack your wife and child and then decide he is your buddy after all?

During that 2000 campaign, McCain called Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson "agents of intolerance." I happen to agree. But then when he decided he needed to cozy up to the religious reich, he appeared on stage with them, praised them, and spoke at their university graduations.

Does it show character to reverse yourself for political expediency?

During the primaries , Joe Biden said Obama lacked the experience to be President . You were saying ?

[Prater]

Joe,

I would damn neer give a kidney to get a chance to go out with Bill Mac for a day of spearing. I still have a long way to go before I am a proficient freediver though.

[Bill McIntyre]

Originally Posted by Prater

Bill,

I have had mud slung at me, called names here on the board, and dished a few out myself. But if given the chance to meet anyone here on the board I would drop all the bad said against me and meet up for a beer or better yet to go out on the boat and do some spearing, even if we had disagreements. So you are saying my character is flawed because I can forgive anyone here for what is said?

Maybe its my character that is flawed, but there are a few guys on the board that have taken it to the personal level, and I would not be willing to have a beer with them or dive with them. One that called my wife an ugly bitch because I disagreed with him on some issue comes to mind as a guy I don't want to dive with. Its fine is you disagree with me, but when you start calling me names and attacking my wife, then no, I'm not forgiving you. There is a point at which a man has to stand up for his own character and that of his family.

But getting back to politics, if someone spread rumors and made push-poll phone calls that said my adopted child was my illegitimate child through an extramarital affair with a black woman (in a state where there is a lot of prejudice against blacks) and called me a fag, then I would me more inclined to break a beer bottle over his head than have a beer with him.

If I had said that Falwell and Robertson were agents of intolerance, then I wouldn't go seek an endorsement from Reverend Hagee, who says the Catholic Church is "the great whore" and called it a "false cult system" and "the apostate church."

I liked the "straight-talk McCain of 2000, but when he was so willing to bend over for the people who trashed him so unmercifully, then I lost respect for his character.

[Bill McIntyre]

Originally Posted by aaron proffitt

During the primaries , Joe Biden said Obama lacked the experience to be President . You were saying ?

He was debating him and running against him, so I expect stuff like that. But he didn't call him a fag, say he was a Muslim Manchurian Candidate, say his kids were conceived out of wedlock with another woman, or attack his wife.

I think there is a significant difference there.

[Prater]

Bill,

I can understand if that was the case. But is McCain a real Buddy Buddy with Bush, or is it that he bites his lip and does whats best in his mind for his constituants?

[Bill McIntyre]

Originally Posted by Prater

Bill,

I can understand if that was the case. But is McCain a real Buddy Buddy with Bush, or is it that he bites his lip and does whats best in his mind for his constituants?

I think its more a matter of doing what is best for McCain. He doesn't have an exclusive on that behavior, but that's why I don't think I would be a successful politician. I'm only willing to go so far in betraying my own principles.

[CraigC]

Originally Posted by Prater

Craig,

I am curious as to why he is lacking character in your mind. I believe you have to know a person directly to truly know their character, not what the media spits out about them. I think one of the spearboard members had a charter with McCain on a fishing trip. That person probably knows him better in one day than any of us know him from months of television.

If you choose to ignore his personal record, I guess you can say he is an upstanding citizen. I don't claim to be up there in my past dealings, but I'm not trying to snocker the general public in an effort to be president. great that charter person had a few hours with McCain, in a "happy" mode. But just follow his progression from his first wife. He certainly has questionable principles ( for those of you that have religeious sympathies) and he doesn't respect others. He, IMO, is a piece of low-life scum.

Craig