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Old 02-04-2009, 06:41 PM   #1
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Arbalene Champion by Rene Cavalero

My friend, who is also my dive instructor/mentor, is having to shut down his shop he had this old gun laying around that someone dropped off to be fixed and never picked it back up, so he gave it to my little brother when he was down at the shop yesterday.

the gun is about 33" from tip of the muzzle to the end of the handle. the barrel is about 28.5". i am not sure how well you can see the shaft in these blurry pics (cheap camera ) but the notch for the trigger mech is like a right triangle , my RA shaft kinda fits but if it gets snatched it comes out? do you guys have any idea where i can get a shaft that will work in this thing?



i came home and saw it and got right to work. i got on SB and searched for some info but it wasn't much, just some thread with an old pic of Bill Mac and jimdoe2you's alleged mother there was a pic of a gun like mine but no helpful info.
i didn't have much work with my google search either. so i started working on the gun.

i ripped off the old rotten band material and contemplated on how to put a new band on those weird threaded euro adapter things. so i did a search and found a nice thread about using a screw and washer. it worked great it now has a brand new 10"x 16mm band. it is pretty powerful!

i retied the old shooting line, i have enough for a double wrap (i will probably need it) i wanted to take the weird tommy gun style handle off but didn't want to pull the muzzle off to do it, so i will probably just live with it. all i need to do now is clean it up and maybe paint it with some sweet camo pattern.

i am pretty excited about my new toy. I hope some of you guys might have some info about this old style gun. anyhting is greatly appreciated.

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Old 02-04-2009, 08:17 PM   #2
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Re: Arbalene Champion by Rene Cavalero

Why don't you ask Bill Mac? or Built7s?

They were in the picture.
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Old 02-04-2009, 08:49 PM   #3
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Re: Arbalene Champion by Rene Cavalero

here is a link to the thread. it was more or less a joke thread with a little info about the gun. it was actually jimdoe2you who posted not built7, sorry.
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Old 02-09-2009, 06:23 PM   #4
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Re: Arbalene Champion by Rene Cavalero

here are some more pics of the technology used on this old gun. it looks pretty solid.
the shaft has a sweet threaded single flopper tip. the slide ring is kinda bulky but has two little swiveling wire arms that the line attached to. here is a better pic of the notch for the trigger.



here is a pic of the trigger mech. it is simple but looks good.



does anyone have any idea what kind of shaft would make a good replacement? the size of the shaft it came with is about a 7.5mm.

also, the barrel is about 22mm inside diameter, does anyone have a recomendation on a good single band closed muzzle, that uses a whole band, not those threaded euro ones?
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Old 02-09-2009, 08:28 PM   #5
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Ask Mike at Florida Freedivers. I'm pretty sure he stocks the shafts
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:07 PM   #6
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Re: Arbalene Champion by Rene Cavalero

I have a ~48" arbalete my dad used to use
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:38 PM   #7
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Re: Arbalene Champion by Rene Cavalero

Get a good old file and make your own
that was I started with in the good old days. Back in the old 50's

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Old 02-09-2009, 09:42 PM   #8
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There is three sizes Jr, stanard,& deluxe
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:55 PM   #9
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Get a good old file and make your own
that was I started with in the good old days. Back in the old 50's
It ain't the 50's no mo.

I'm a cheap bastard, but the safety of the shaft/ trigger connection is not something I would be experimenting with to save a few bucks. Plus, I'm pretty sure it will rust like crazy when you start filing on the loading notch. Just call Mike.
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:21 PM   #10
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That gun brings back memories. My parents had about a dozen of them. They both won Nationals using one Arbelete or another. I think the Rust on the filed shaft keeps the fish on better. My best fish was a 24lb lingcod when I was 14. I had a five prog gig on it. What a fight to get that fish to shore.
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Old 02-10-2009, 12:46 AM   #11
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Re: Arbalene Champion by Rene Cavalero

Ha! I started to read this post and I new who wrote it before I looked at the poster's name. I got to find one of those Arbeletes.


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That gun brings back memories. My parents had about a dozen of them. They both won Nationals using one Arbelete or another. I think the Rust on the filed shaft keeps the fish on better. My best fish was a 24lb lingcod when I was 14. I had a five prog gig on it. What a fight to get that fish to shore.
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Old 02-12-2009, 04:21 PM   #12
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Re: Arbalene Champion by Rene Cavalero

Wow, that mechanism ignores millenia old arbalete technology.

I bet it becomes really hard to fire if you put a modern band on it.
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Old 02-12-2009, 06:25 PM   #13
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Re: Arbalene Champion by Rene Cavalero

it isn't too bad. i have a 16mm band that is about 10" long.
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Old 02-13-2009, 01:45 AM   #14
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Re: Arbalene Champion by Rene Cavalero

I still have several of those old guns from back in the 60s and 70s. It is all we had in those days! I still keep them to use teaching my young nephews. Rob Allen does a neat and quick conversion of the trigger mech internals so it will take standard RA spears etc. Write to him and ask advice perhaps?
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Old 02-13-2009, 07:31 AM   #15
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Re: Arbalene Champion by Rene Cavalero

Hi,
JBL makes a adapt-a-shaft that should fit in that trigger.
Possibly the old style arbalete. (they have two arbalete adapters, old and new)

You can than just add the appropriate length of threaded shaft.

BTW I still stock new Arbalete Champion handles as there are still numerous spearos who will not change to anything else :>)

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