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Old 02-05-2009, 12:50 AM   #1
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Over Populated

Has any one else noticed the trend to blame everything form drought to the financial crisis on to large of a population.

An example from KNPR to day California is not under watered were over populated and if we had less people we would not need as much water.

Another example is there are too many people looking for affordable housing….

I think it was in England where they are talking about limiting the number of children you can have.

An odd thought but what portion of the world population would participate in a program to limit the population of the world?

I would think that it would be hard to get any citizen of a developing nation to participate voluntarily so it would be older established countries where the well educated better off financially individuals would consider participation.

Would this have the affect of limiting the number of well educated and financially secure individuals and increasing the number of impoverished and under educated people of the world.

If the more educated and better off individuals see that the population is a problem there appears to be only one answer limit population growth. Weather you relies it or not we in America have been doing this for years. Think of how many brothers and sisters your mother and father had or your grandparents I will bet it was larger than your family.

Don’t go and try to make this into a discussion about race. It does not matter what race you are there will be people in it which will fall into the non participation area.


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Old 02-05-2009, 08:27 AM   #2
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Re: Over Populated

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Porritt, a former chairman of the Green party, says the government must improve family planning, even if it means shifting money from curing illness to increasing contraception and abortion.

He said: “We still have one of the highest rates of teenage pregnancies in Europe and we still have relatively high levels of pregnancies going to birth, often among women who are not convinced they want to become mothers.
Nice. The world needs a lot more green Nazis like this.

Wonder why it is they're worried about population. Their birth rate is below replacement. A real wonder of nature, someone said. Do you suppose there might be other policies contributing to population growth in the UK
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Old 02-06-2009, 06:35 AM   #3
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Re: Over Populated

historical population growth of the world II
year population source*
0 300,000,000 Durand
1000 310,000,000 Durand
1250 400,000,000 Durand
1500 500,000,000 Durand
1750 790,000,000 D & C
1800 980,000,000 D & C
1850 1,260,000,000 D & C
1900 1,650,000,000 D & C
1910 1,750,000,000 Interp.
1920 1,860,000,000 WPP63
1930 2,070,000,000 WPP63
1940 2,300,000,000 WPP63
1950 2,520,000,000 WPP94
1960 3,020,000,000 WPP94
1970 3,700,000,000 WPP94
1980 4,450,000,000 WPP94
1990 5,300,000,000 WPP94
1994 5,630,000,000 WPP94
2000 6,230,000,000 WPP94
2025 8,470,000,000 WPP94
2050 10,020,000,000 LR
2100 11,190,000,000 LR
2150 11,540,000,000 LR
stabilization (just after 2200) 11,600,000,000 LR


* Sources
Durand:
J.D. Durand, 1974. Historical Estimates of World Population: An Evaluation (University of Pennsylvania, Population Studies Center, Philadelphia), mimeo.
D & C:
United Nations, 1973. The Determinants and Consequences of Population Trends, Vol. 1 (United Nations, New York).
WPP63:
United Nations, 1966. World Population Prospects as Assessed in 1963 (United Nations, New York).
WPP94:
United Nations, 1993. World Population Prospects: The 1994 Revision (United Nations, New York)
LR:
United Nations, 1992. Long-range World Population Projection: Two Centuries of Population Growth, 1950-2150 (United Nations, New York).
Interp:
Estimate interpolated from adjacent population estimates.

Looking at this source (other estimates pretty much mimic this), it is hard not to consider population will overtake the ability to provide food. Look at the time spans vs population doubling. If you really think about this, where are we headed? Rounding off the years, this is what it looks like up to 1990:

Dates, Years to double, From/to
0-1600, 600, 300mil-600mil
1600-1850, 250, 600mil-1.26bil
1850-1950, 100, 1.26bil-2.52bil
1950-1990, 40, 2.52bil-5.3bil

I know some will call the following "junk science". If so, your view on the possibilities?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/jul/07/research.waste

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