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07-03-2012, 07:14 PM | #16 |
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Re: California Halibut Carcasses Wanted!!!
WOW. This lady is nuts, she thinks we are actually gonna help her . Thanks for exposing her Ralphthehalibut.
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07-03-2012, 07:40 PM | #17 | |
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Re: California Halibut Carcasses Wanted!!!
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Double birds to you Cheryl for recommending the closure of the Swami's area. I'm not even going to rehash why such a recommendation is nonsensical, but I will say you helped kill a city's long tradition (going back to the Cardiff Dorymen) of using the local ocean as a resource. |
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07-03-2012, 08:44 PM | #18 | |
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seriously? WTH? I guess when not murdering defensless fish we spend our spare time assaulting surfers Just goes to show how incredibly ignorant of the ocean and waterman lifestyle people like her are. |
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07-03-2012, 08:47 PM | #19 |
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Re: California Halibut Carcasses Wanted!!!
I still dive swammis all the time. Go tell DFG. I don't care.
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07-03-2012, 08:54 PM | #20 | |
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Ralpth the Halibut thanks for being so squared away! Your insight never ceases to amaze me. ~DUKE |
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07-03-2012, 09:26 PM | #21 |
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Re: California Halibut Carcasses Wanted!!!
Is anybody a member of the california pier fishing forum, norcal kayak anglers forum or any of the other forums she has posted in? If so, could you post a warning not to help this .... person... with her history of organizing bus rides to help shut down our fishing?
Waiting for approvals to post in some, and so any help would be appreciated |
07-03-2012, 09:52 PM | #22 | |
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A couple points. You assume you know the spawning (breeding?) season and truncate your sampling accordingly? Does this not introduce a bias immediately? Not to mention determining size at first maturity, how can you so this if you are attempting to establish a maturity schedule...I am almost certain CalCoFI data has halibut larvae in November and December north of pt. Conception. Secondly, you reference a paper from 1990, could there have been an environmental change since then which influenced spawning season, size, etc...(pacific decadal oscillation)? To base your sampling on that is irresponsible. With respect to "metapopulations" you are making assumptions about stock structure of CA Halibut that are not well understood! Do you know if they have fidelity to a geographic area? Even if it were well understood who is going to conduct a spatially stratified stock assessment, currently there are only a few people in the world qualified to do this and they do not work for CDFG! IMO, you are putting the cart before the horse here, you need to establish what stock structure there is and what mixing rates may be between the "metapopulations" which can be done through a well designed tag/release program. RE: otoliths, verified is not VALIDATED. I am not familiar with previous aging work which has been done on halibut, but if not validated using appropriate methods, its worthless. Validation is not an easy thing which is why most people try to get around doing it properly! I do agree that basic biological information is imperative for conducting viable stock assessments and I hope you are successful in your research. I think it is valuable and important. It just needs to be done correctly and without bias and assumptions! |
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07-03-2012, 09:59 PM | #23 | |
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07-03-2012, 11:36 PM | #24 |
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Re: California Halibut Carcasses Wanted!!!
Posted the link to this page on NCKA! She has the same thing there.
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07-04-2012, 12:32 AM | #25 |
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Re: California Halibut Carcasses Wanted!!!
WOW ...RTH again gets biggest catch of the year!! spread the word about this bitch so she receives nothing from anyone whos lives shes effected unnessesarily!
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07-04-2012, 03:59 AM | #26 |
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Re: California Halibut Carcasses Wanted!!!
Nice job Dave!
It sucks when scientists who are conducting the research are biased and agenda driven. Someone please let Richard Starr know about this, if he doesnt already. Some members on this board are his old students if I remember correctly. And they stood up for him. Or maybe he is just as pro closure, and he advises the DFG. |
07-04-2012, 04:09 AM | #27 |
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So busted out! I have to hand it to you Dave, good job.
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07-05-2012, 12:55 PM | #28 |
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Re: California Halibut Carcasses Wanted!!!
Thread closed. I will leave it up for future reference.
People are welcome to start another thread if the topic is still of interest. Personally for me, it'll be a cold day in hell.... |
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