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Old 11-07-2014, 08:58 PM   #1
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Keys bag 11/7/14

Maxed out on hogs. Two nice mangroves. Seas were flat viz was ok 15 ft
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Old 11-07-2014, 09:30 PM   #2
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Just of little torch btw
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Old 11-08-2014, 11:53 AM   #3
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Atlantic or gulf side?
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Old 11-09-2014, 09:17 AM   #4
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Re: Keys bag 11/7/14

quality not quantity ... some of those fish could have lived to seen bigger sizes. Good looking mangroves.
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:11 PM   #5
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Re: Keys bag 11/7/14

Nice gray snapper, looks like you had a fun day.

Once they change the size limit of hogfish down there and you start to see how big these fish grow to and what kind of meat a bigger fish yields you will wish you never shot those little gals. Miles how many of those have changed sex to males completely? None because all of them still have the second dorsal spot and not the pectoral dash. People do not realize that one fillet of a large mature male hogfish yields more meat than all those fish combine; what a shame. You guys are ruining it for yourself and your children by harvesting small fish like that. yada yada yada hogfish rant
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Old 11-09-2014, 09:15 PM   #6
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Old 11-10-2014, 05:16 AM   #7
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Must have been at the reef. Its currently LOADED with millions of teeny tiny hog fish just like those. Last time I was out they were so thick, we could have gotten 4 in one shot.

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Old 11-10-2014, 06:03 AM   #8
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Why shoot so many babies?
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Old 11-10-2014, 08:19 AM   #9
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If they are legal you have the right to harvest them. A lot of experienced spearfisherman from the area might say why shoot the babies but everyone that starts out spearfishing in the keys shoots small hogs at first. Its a progression. Small hogs actually have a decent yield.

That being said, I do agree with not shooting them so small.

If a fisherman keeps a 16.5 inch mutton or a 24.5 inch black grouper no one gives them shit.
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Old 11-10-2014, 08:38 AM   #10
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Re: Keys bag 11/7/14

Primal, is all on perception. When groupers start being as easy and in abundance like the great old hog then with time everyone will form a similar opinion when lined up in the above picture. Given the current picture and previous experience of south Florida spearos we can all deduct that this is unnecessary.

I've fished with people that use the legal rule to harvest these small measuring fish, they don't yield to my requests, I let them be, but we all know is ignorance.

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Old 11-10-2014, 10:52 AM   #11
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Re: Keys bag 11/7/14

you guys are absolutely right. For the record they were all legal fish, but I felt the same way the next day. Haven't been down in the keys in years, I'm lucky to get one hogfish in a day up where I live, so it was ez for me to get trigger happy. A lot time and money put into these trip so its hard to pass them up. But again I agree with all of you and will not make this mistake again. Passed up tons of black and marble grouper that were close to legal size fyi.
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Old 11-10-2014, 02:25 PM   #12
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Must have been at the reef. Its currently LOADED with millions of teeny tiny hog fish just like those. Last time I was out they were so thick, we could have gotten 4 in one shot.

Yeah even the inshore areas,I was off smathers on Saturday,every little rock pile hAd tons of little females around.
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Old 11-10-2014, 09:46 PM   #13
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If they are legal you have the right to harvest them. A lot of experienced spearfisherman from the area might say why shoot the babies but everyone that starts out spearfishing in the keys shoots small hogs at first. Its a progression. Small hogs actually have a decent yield.

That being said, I do agree with not shooting them so small.

If a fisherman keeps a 16.5 inch mutton or a 24.5 inch black grouper no one gives them shit.
Nailed it

Word of warning though

My first trip to the keys i shot my first hogfish, actually a couple of them. They were just like the ones in the picture the op posted. I was extra careful in measuring them, and i was kinda giving them a good inspection because they were the first hogish i ever saw in real life and much cooler looking in real life. I noticed when i got back to the marina, i re measured them and after being on ice (i use alot of ice) they shrunk almost an inch and a half! One of them even shrunk into the underslot size.. i never saw a fish shrink that much. So anyways, fwc wont care so be careful
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Old 11-12-2014, 01:12 PM   #14
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Nailed it



Word of warning though



My first trip to the keys i shot my first hogfish, actually a couple of them. They were just like the ones in the picture the op posted. I was extra careful in measuring them, and i was kinda giving them a good inspection because they were the first hogish i ever saw in real life and much cooler looking in real life. I noticed when i got back to the marina, i re measured them and after being on ice (i use alot of ice) they shrunk almost an inch and a half! One of them even shrunk into the underslot size.. i never saw a fish shrink that much. So anyways, fwc wont care so be careful

I've seen this happen with close to limt size hogs as well.maybe when you chill them the flesh contracts? Not sure.im glad to see that someone else has seen this and I'm Not crazy !i guess all the more reason to not shoot small hogs
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Old 11-12-2014, 02:40 PM   #15
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I believe they shrink so much because they are young, soft boned and hardly have any bones to begin with, unlike a grouper or cobia that have a super thick spine and ribs.
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